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Panis

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That's Clutch
« on: July 20, 2015, 08:33:40 PM »

Clutch is an epic band, Clutchmasters is expensive sex, and XTD most likely will cause AIDS. Having said all that...


An FX500 from Clutchmasters is going to cost me about $350 whereas an XTD is dirt cheap. I did some searching on here and found some info from years ago that says they (XTD) work fine on boosted D series but I'm building a mild 250hp LSVTEC and would like to save money for injectors and other shit. Anyone have experience with a B series hydro XTD unit? I ran a 6 puck on my D16Z6 for about 2 years on 10psi (untuned FMU  :mexi: ) without a problem. And I'm planning to get a Phantom grip LSD to put in my LS tranny.


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Re: That's Clutch
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2015, 11:46:23 PM »

Never had issues with XTD  :noel:

Yes they have their limits on torque capacity, I've maxed out a stage 3 before, later put a stage 5 on and never had issues. :noel:

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Re: That's Clutch
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2015, 01:04:17 AM »

Is it ever gonna get traction? Call up mike at lsd. For about $300 you can get a decent clutch for a good price. I got a lsd dragged full face disk which is rated at like 330tq. And I put down over that at the wheels and it never slipped. And it's still rocking strong after 40k miles and in 2 different cars.
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Re: That's Clutch
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2015, 12:40:58 PM »

This is going to be strictly a street car/daily driven/no street racing. I just want my civic to have extra power for the highway and interstate. So it's going to be on street tires.
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Re: That's Clutch
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2015, 09:14:12 PM »

Anyone know of a more affordable alternative that will hold in this power range?
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Re: That's Clutch
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2015, 12:31:19 PM »

I got an Lsd clutch (4 puck) when I had a D16, lasted me 6 months maybe less, I know others here are happy with Lsd but that's my experience and I wouldn't touch their clutches.
Whereas now I'm very happy with Competition clutch on a boosted H22. Would def. get one of theirs again.

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Re: That's Clutch
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2015, 04:17:30 PM »

The really heavy XTD clutches that actually hold power crack and fail, and the lower clamping force ones don't hold power.  They are balanced for shit.

I would go Comp clutch, they seemed to work good for me, used lots of them.
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Re: That's Clutch
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2015, 04:29:35 PM »

I got an Lsd clutch (4 puck) when I had a D16, lasted me 6 months maybe less, I know others here are happy with Lsd but that's my experience and I wouldn't touch their clutches.
Whereas now I'm very happy with Competition clutch on a boosted H22. Would def. get one of theirs again.



So the big problem here is you didn't contact Mike at lsd. If there was a problem like that he would have fixed it. Had a clutch disk from him that wasn't machined correctly and he overnighted a new disk to me. He farmed out some work to a local shop to do for him and they fucked it up. Also throw some other free shit in the box too. Your not just paying for a good product but also the service that backs that product.

That being said I've seen lots of people running cc with great results.


The really heavy XTD clutches that actually hold power crack and fail, and the lower clamping force ones don't hold power.  They are balanced for shit.

I would go Comp clutch, they seemed to work good for me, used lots of them.

I used a xtd 6 puck stage 3 bla bla bla this that and the other stage and it held 180whp and 180tq. It grabbed like a mofo. Was no slipping involved with it. When I would try to slip it, it would grab so hard it felt like you were busting parts. Went to the track a few times with it and it did ok, but it's life was short lived and started slipping after a short while. Pedal felt the same as a stock disk did. Pretty sure it was just a 6 puck disk and stock pressure plate.

To where as the lsd clutch had a stock disk but the sprung finger section of the pp had a double set of fingers stacked so it had alot more holding power.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2015, 04:35:56 PM by ratcityrex »
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New setup is old bottom end with a hype r head with gsr cams. built lsv with hx35 @ 26psi on pump gas
LEED tuned! 434hp/329tq http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pbDXZxZdZs
http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php/topic,16195.0.html

Old Setup B18a1 296hp/289tq LEED Tuned 20psi on pump! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yj-Z90j4W4   
http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php/topic,205.msg2437.html#msg2437

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Re: That's Clutch
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2015, 01:39:14 PM »

My lsd motor sports clutch died after 30,000 HARD miles, and after making 100ft/lbs more then it was rated for :evil: :noel:
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Re: That's Clutch
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2015, 05:59:47 PM »

I've decided to go with the Clutchmasters FX500. Update to follow.
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