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Weird electrical issue.
« on: June 11, 2009, 12:19:43 AM »

Ok so I was at home on the weekend and got my car out of storage and the fan switch wasn't working so I was wiring it to the battery on a switch under the hood and I arced the wrench from the positive post to the aluminum end tank of the rad.

Now the car has no power at all. When i turn the key nothing happens. No dash lights, fuel pump doesn't prime, no dome like, no power windows. Power door locks work weakly. But sometimes everything comes on and the fuel pump primes but when i turn the key to engage the starter i lose all power again and it's like a relay or something is kicked out.

The headlights don't work either when it does this but when i push the hazard button a relay makes a weird rattling noise. I tried another main relay with no change and the battery fuse is fine.

Ok so what did I fuck up?
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Re: Weird electrical issue.
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2009, 12:36:20 AM »

check your terms at the batt, fuses, etc
Battery terminals were tight and clean, ground seemed solid. I am not near the car anymore so I can't double check.
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Re: Weird electrical issue.
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2009, 04:52:50 AM »

check your terms at the batt, fuses, etc
Battery terminals were tight and clean, ground seemed solid. I am not near the car anymore so I can't double check.
Have you tried jump starting it yet, connect ground to frame or the block if you do try to jump it.
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Re: Weird electrical issue.
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2009, 04:56:00 AM »

If you arced from the positive terminal to the ground check if your battery has been shorted.

If you shorted it out at that part of the circuit it would have bypassed most/ all of the electrical systems in the car.

Is it a serviceable battery? Check the resistance between cells. 
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Re: Weird electrical issue.
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2009, 08:20:22 AM »

Maybe your battery was weak to begin with and you discharged it? I did this working on my Civic when I let the wrench tightening the + cable touch the firewall.

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Re: Weird electrical issue.
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2009, 08:33:19 AM »

Sounds like a a shitty burned through connection.  We all see them at the battery terminal, where you go to start the car hear a click and the electrical system shuts off.  You just have one somewhere else now. 

If it were my car I'd look at the POWER distribution connections first, then the ground paths.  You only need one or two shitty connections for the system to work.

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Re: Weird electrical issue.
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2009, 12:37:46 AM »

I tried jumping the battery but only went terminal to terminal I didn't ground it to the chassis anywhere. Sounds like I just need to go through all the wiring. Fuck that should take awhile.
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Re: Weird electrical issue.
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2009, 08:15:41 PM »

Do what JD said, start at the hot side and work your way out.

That shit is going to flow from high to low.
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Re: Weird electrical issue.
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2009, 07:01:26 PM »

If thw batt shorted, it will not have 12v.  Take a testlight, connect to one post and probe down the wiring working away from the battery.  Where you lose power, you found your open
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Re: Weird electrical issue.
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2009, 07:40:02 PM »

If thw batt shorted, it will not have 12v.  Take a testlight, connect to one post and probe down the wiring working away from the battery.  Where you lose power, you found your open
Yeah i was thinking that or an ohm meter.
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Re: Weird electrical issue.
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2009, 07:42:08 PM »

Ohm meter may not work because load makes the circuit break down
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Re: Weird electrical issue.
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2009, 11:16:36 PM »

Resistance can not be measured where current is present.  Ohm meter what?

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Re: Weird electrical issue.
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2009, 08:56:48 AM »

The circuit is functional to a caertain amperage, at which it fails and you lose power, an ohm meter will not produce the amperage needed to break down the circuit. That is why you need to use a test light when the car is acting up and trace the open down
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Re: Weird electrical issue.
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2009, 08:32:23 PM »

Ok thanks for the help guys. I will start tearing into it when I get it down to where I live in a couple weeks.
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Re: Weird electrical issue.
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2009, 09:01:28 PM »

Take your battery terminals off and scrape/clean them, even if they look decent, that would be my first step before tracing wiring.  Fought some shit kinda like this on the MR2 all it ended up being was a slight corrosion on a ring terminal that I bolted to the battery terminal
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