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[Robb]

Funny Henry, haha.  Like my mom gives white guys the time of day.

Im not Henry goddamnit hahahaha. 

You sure about that?  You sound like a Henry to me.

[Adam Hopkins]

not many black guys on this forum, how can you get them mixed up

I'm not racist by any means but who on here is black just out of curiosity

Tuffy-gay, at least one of the guys with DA in his screen name (sorry, Zach, early onset senile dementia strikes), 89Sipimpin-->90LSpimpin, Adam Hopkins, RacingTiger, StanB, Rudebwoy, motherfucking SQ, and really a lot of others that I've completely forgotten or never felt the need to announce their presence as such.

Not that it matters, but why must you tell people that I am Black. Is it because of my afro engineering?

[Joseph Davis]

Are you questioning a white man??   

Next time you come to town we chill with Kenny.  He's this Argentinian kid that was adopted and raised by white folks, he has some fucking hilarious shit to say about racial differences.

[Adam Hopkins]

Update:

Well I finally got better at boating. I literally went from never setting my ass in a white water boat to paddling with the pros on class V rapids in about 8 months. I have learned a lot and have gotten my ass handed to me a couple of times. You really have no clue how powerful water is until it picks you up, slams your down, and rips what ever it wants from you.( picking my fat ass up at 240 is no easy feat)  I got some Gopro head cameras so I thought I would share some footage from a play session from this weekend.

*** 7 minutes in I caught a good beat down with the camera, it was a girl, I was impressed she didnt swim ***
Rock Island Playboat Jackson Kayak

[d16forlife]

I have always wanted to Kayak, but fuck the rapids. I would stick to lakes and rivers where I cant be drowned, or confused for a fucking seal by a shark, in the ocean

You claim a few posts up that you're black. Fucking with mother nature like uncontrolled water and playing with your life is stupid shit white people do. Whats next? Bungee jumping? Hiking in mountain lion territory or at night with out a map? Parachuting in to caves? Watching high surf from the edge of a cliff? Cutting your white trash, neighbor's son's hair with out his parents approval and posting the pictures on the intronetz( ).....you're not  ....J/K! looks like fun... ....

[Joseph Davis]

I have always wanted to Kayak, but fuck the rapids. I would stick to lakes and rivers where I cant be drowned, or confused for a fucking seal by a shark, in the ocean

Most people who get into paddling in their late 30's or beyond tend to stick to lakes and placid (stretches of) rivers. It's really not a bad thing at all, dude I used to work with was a tubby early 50-something and dropped most of it one summer without really trying, going out to lakes and stuff with his camera.  He really got off on the whole thing, went from the used $150 boat to a new one the next year as well as upgraded his photo gear.  I should probably get up on something like that.

[salesmonkey]

how much did your kayak cost you? ive always wanted to get one and do some white water kayaking. would but fun to just paddle around the pothole lake area around here as well with my shotgun on board. already do it with a boat. but the kayak  just sounds fun. almost got one last year but it didnt go as planned. problem is i dont think i could talk my friends into it. i got one that might do it, and a guy at work that has went a few times but besides that no one sounded interested.

[d16forlife]

JD, thanks for that info. I really don't need to lose any more weight but I could definitely work out my core more since I'm having a hard time with it after being cut open for surgery.

salesmonkey , the appeal of kayaking on a lake or slow moving river, to me, is that I could do it alone....and why the hell would you need a shotgun

[Joseph Davis]

JD, thanks for that info. I really don't need to lose any more weight but I could definitely work out my core more since I'm having a hard time with it after being cut open for surgery.

Same here, but the closest I've gotten to surgery is taking a burrito to the face.

...and why the hell would you need a shotgun

When you figure it out we'll make you an honorary cracker, sir.

[Adam Hopkins]

how much did your kayak cost you? ive always wanted to get one and do some white water kayaking. would but fun to just paddle around the pothole lake area around here as well with my shotgun on board. already do it with a boat. but the kayak  just sounds fun. almost got one last year but it didnt go as planned. problem is i dont think i could talk my friends into it. i got one that might do it, and a guy at work that has went a few times but besides that no one sounded interested.

It depends on what boat you want. For a simple flat water boat I would suggest the Perception Swifty. It cost 300 new at your major sports retailer.

For white water a new boat cost 1200. Used goes from 300 to 800 depending on age and condition. There are also different types of boats for what you want to do. Creek boats are good for waterfalls and technical rapids. Playboats, like the one im using in the video are good for calmer river running and surfing in holes.

cool video, but you should have got the gopro hd

You should have bought "Ham and Cheese" Hot Pockets instead of the "Pizza".

On a serious note, I might upgrade in the future when they come down in price. I bought two of these for 125 and have one of them on craigslist for 100. So I hope to have a total of 25 dollars in my camera setup.

you should come out here and surf some real waves, i know a couple guys that surf those at spots out here.

This is a real wave. It is where the world championships were held a couple of years ago. If its real enough for those guys its real enough for me. Did you not see the video about 7 minutes in? That was a pretty good beating.

[Adam Hopkins]

The difference between a river wave and an ocean wave, is that the ocean wave eventually fizzles out, where the river keeps on feeding that hole, hours on end, non stop. I have had to come out of my boat, swim to the side and watched my empty boat get thrashed around for 5 minutes in the same hole.

[bigdaddyvtec]

Back in the early to mid 90s I used to River guide the South and middle forks of the American River out of Placerville (Specifically Coloma) CA. We (My family) owned  100 acres on the river that had 3 River rafting joints on the property, I worked for South Bay....  North fork was like class3+ stuff, Middle was 4+-5 in a copuple places... Tunnel shoot was the SHIT!!!!

LA companies would ship LA people to the Sierra foothills... We would take them rafting, then take their women out to the local roadhouses get them drunk, fuck them ... Then take them back to their poor unsuspecting significant others... 4 or 5 of the bet years of my life......

We ran HYSIDE selfbailers mostly

I never got into Kayaking....  Lots of friends did, not my thing....


The river isd a dynamic thing... TOTALLY dynamic depending on Flow....  Eddys, hydraulics and such can do really weird shit to a boat.

Ive helped "unwrap" a few boats in my time, and having had taken swift water rescue courses... Ive saved a few people from fucking drowning.

Tunel Chute (You cant tell but that fuckers at about a 60 degree angle, AT LEAST)


Troublemaker:



MEAT GRINDER:


at above 4500 CFS.....  The bottom two are fucking nuts (In the pic, about a class 3), depends on how long they open the dams for, and where you are on the "bubble". The chute at above 4500 CFS, if youre not on it, people got hurt.

[onlyflash944]

I've hadn't had so much fun in a long time until we went rafting at the Upper Gauley.  5 Class V rapids in 9.8 miles.  Wicked fun.

actual photo:


one of the few reasons for me to head back home to WV

[Adam Hopkins]

I WILL be there this summer. That is one of my goals for this year. I have heard its not too terribly difficult because the lines are wide enough to drive a truck through.

[onlyflash944]

I WILL be there this summer. That is one of my goals for this year. I have heard its not too terribly difficult because the lines are wide enough to drive a truck through.

I had never been rafting before, and I didn't fall out once.  We went with Class VI and between all the fit college kids in the raft and the guide, we were able to position ourselves where we needed to be not to wipe out.  Other companies (ACE) will intentionally get you wet.  That would be okay with me but I suck at swimming and people have been killed on the Gauley before, hence why I was happy with what Class VI did.  That being said, If you miss the line, you will be in for trouble:

Gauley Carnage

Lots more of those on youtube, but by far the most fun I've had doing something outdoorsy in the past decade

[onlyflash944]

Before we even got wet, we were specifically told about this one:

room of doom rescue-more footage

[Adam Hopkins]

Before we even got wet, we were specifically told about this one:

room of doom rescue-more footage

80% is mental, Know what your going to do(plan A), have a line picked out, and go for it. Then do what ever the fuck it takes to stick with plan A because plan B usually ends in carnage.

[onlyflash944]

Before we even got wet, we were specifically told about this one:

room of doom rescue-more footage

80% is mental, Know what your going to do(plan A), have a line picked out, and go for it. Then do what ever the fuck it takes to stick with plan A because plan B usually ends in carnage.

I would agree.  If you raft when you go, make sure you are in the front when it comes to the last Class V.  That is the best seat for Sweet's Falls, and was probably my most memorable, 'oh shit' moment as we went right over the edge.