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Donnies S-13 KA-T cliff notes build
« on: July 08, 2009, 07:34:25 AM »

Well... this car is deep stored so ill just give the cliff note version of my turbo builds  :mexi:


Fall 2005

first setup 800 dollars total for everything including a  shitty shitty flux welder

xspower T3 
ssac topmount manifold V2 ( spot welded the suspect spots)
2.5in dump tube
xs power bov
370cc injectors
safc1
greddy Full auto timer
Sr20 smic piping
rb20smic
earls oil line fittings
summit racing SS oil line -10AN drain/-3AN feed
NGK copper plugs (gapped to .028)
N60 MAF
255 pump
(note: yes strut tower was jacked up, i welded new metal in and reset it )





no dump tube for the first day or so lol....


added a crush bend pipe to it and shielded it with some heat shielding from an F22 that was laying around.


6 months later, the turbo developed major radial and axial play... and the piston ringlands began to go..... because i had beaten the shit out this motor in N/A form. Pulled the motor with plans of a Full AMS kit... but that got put on ice.



the gains were evident though. went from a 16.1 to a 13.7 @ 104mp @ 8psi with boost leak .... not blazing fast lol but was cool.

some street pulls boost leak and clutch slippage

Biggamehit's NewYears Pulls

http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h235/rbnismo2NR/?action=view&current=MOV01969.flv




Setup # 2

Spring 2006

z31 T3
Revhard cast manifold
2.5in dump tube
Blitz bov
Sr 370cc injectors
safc1
greddy Full auto timer
ssac fmic
earls oil line fittings
summit racing SS oil line -10AN drain/-3AN feed
NGK copper plugs (gapped to .033)
N60 MAF
255 pump



well its the same setup, just with a new manifold which was suppose to fit my H!C but didn't, this t3 i just had laying around. Had leaking seals, but i needed it to get around until i could find the H1C. this setup only lasted about a month.

with this setup.. i made the mistake of pressuring my crank case..... didn't damage the motor much... but it took its toll and shortly that motor went to shit.




Setup # 3  ( current and most stable )

Summer 2006

Well i found the H1c that i wanted for this particular setup. It came from an 93ish dodge ram... the smaller of the H1C's.

Holset H1C turbo
Tial 38mm wastegate
3in V-band custom dump/down pipe
jgs tools custom stage 1 manifold
dsm bov
detachwork 480cc injectors.
safc1
aem uegowideband
greddy Full auto timer
ssac fmic
earls oil line fittings
summit racing SS oil line -10AN drain
AutoMeter -4AN feed
JGStools adjustable Oil pressure kit
NGK copper plugs (gapped to .033)
N60 MAF
255 pump

located a great place on ebay that was ironically in my state. So i went there to hand select my H1c from a few others... its was a freaking gem for sure.



TURBOCHARGER MANUFACTURER: HOLSET #765
TURBOCHARGER PART # 3522900
TURBOCHARGER MODEL # H1C
OIL COOLED
WEIGHT: 19
EXHAUST WHEEL DIAMETER - 60mm.
COMPRESSOR WHEEL DIAMETER - 45mm.

I did the math for the trim and came up with 56 but that was just with the numbers given, i really wanted to measure the size of the inducer and exducer and get the proper number for both sides.








I thought the revhard would yield me the space i needed to clear my BMC but it was a big no go....



So i picked up an JGS tools stage one kit and with the help of a buddy and his tig we welded it up



i placed the turbo about right here. My hands are not dirty, im just black  :P

another issue i ran into was, the v-band clamp.... so i welded the v-band flange to the cast after heating it up.











these blobs were just to hold it on until i got around a mig with gas... I beat the shit out of it with a hammer and it stayed on....... so i was satisfied.



went to my buddies house and we hit up the once piece down pipe along with my manifold.





( these pictures jump in the future a little ways from this night due to the fact that i had no extra batteries but you get the idea of what the manifold look like)

i knocked the junction block off while drifting so we had to re-weld.... layed it on thicker this time no issues ever again








install was done in one night... not really anything spectacular..










the last thing i added to it before going to Japan was a Tial WG, hallman MBC and wrapped the exhaust and BMC








204hp 218tq 8psi @ with 5500rpms rev limit set : My street tune with not so good crossover from low to hi maps

Moore Automotive Dyno Day June 7th 2008



202hp 204tq 8psi @6500rpms rev limit set: Dyno tuned very conservative. crossovers were very well after this and allowed me to finish out my competitions without blowing shit up.

1989 S-13 Nissan 240sx KA-TMoore Automotive Dyno Session June 26




Now the car sits lonely next to a 1jz supra in my buddies garage :( i miss it

240 in hibernation mode





go to sleep babe











« Last Edit: July 09, 2009, 04:45:46 AM by BigGameHit »
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Re: Donnies S-13 KA-T cliff notes build
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2009, 06:40:13 PM »

so...  what did you do for the oil line fiasco?
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Re: Donnies S-13 KA-T cliff notes build
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2009, 07:24:41 PM »

i saw this car on nico like a year or 2 ago. props now wheres the tits?
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Re: Donnies S-13 KA-T cliff notes build
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2009, 04:42:21 AM »

Ahhh i forgot about the tits lol




so...  what did you do for the oil line fiasco?


for the feed i just taped into the Oil pressure sender and since i didn't have A/C i was able to run my return straight from the turbo to the pan parallel to the firewall for the best drainage.
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Re: Donnies S-13 KA-T cliff notes build
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2009, 02:23:44 AM »

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Re: Donnies S-13 KA-T cliff notes build
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2009, 05:20:29 AM »

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Re: Donnies S-13 KA-T cliff notes build
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2009, 08:21:00 AM »

i like to see a small crowd of S13 guys here.. I actually thought I was going to be the only nog here with a boosted 180  :noel:

btw, i was looking at your 300zx clutch mod.. how well did that work? i already have a 6 puck dragger for the KA, otherwise i would try that
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Re: Donnies S-13 KA-T cliff notes build
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2009, 12:40:07 PM »

it would have worked well however these factors made me pull it back out

-contaminated by oil leak

-freaking flywheel weigh a ton.... if i could have found a lighter one at the time, i would have stayed with it the bigger diameter was a plus over the stock diameter.


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Re: Donnies S-13 KA-T cliff notes build
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2009, 06:40:28 PM »



Careful,  someone is trying to steal your flange
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Re: Donnies S-13 KA-T cliff notes build
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2009, 12:33:53 AM »

LMAO goddamn black people sigh..... steeling flanges since 1492

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Re: Donnies S-13 KA-T cliff notes build
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2009, 05:42:14 PM »

KA-T...200whp?  :-[
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Re: Donnies S-13 KA-T cliff notes build
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2009, 05:47:08 PM »

yes very low boost setup... many other KA-T''s are much more powerful.. but many of them don't race as much as i did along with daily driving. If i had more time i would have swapped pistons and upped the boost.

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Re: Donnies S-13 KA-T cliff notes build
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2009, 07:41:16 PM »

I DD'ed mine for 2-3yrs and went to the track once a month or so with 300whp+

200k on the motor
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Re: Donnies S-13 KA-T cliff notes build
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2009, 08:45:15 PM »

ka-t!
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Re: Donnies S-13 KA-T cliff notes build
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2009, 09:50:22 PM »

I DD'ed mine for 2-3yrs and went to the track once a month or so with 300whp+

200k on the motor

good stuff man... i just took it easy.. this was KA number 5.... and my time was short so i just played it rather safe... it was enough power to do well. i did 8 events along with 3 drag sessions inside of 2 months lol... the setup held up great... i was very pleased.

what kind of setup did you have?
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Re: Donnies S-13 KA-T cliff notes build
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2009, 01:01:27 AM »

How fast does that thing spool with that tractor turbo?
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Re: Donnies S-13 KA-T cliff notes build
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2009, 01:30:41 AM »

do you still have that z31 t-3 layin around?  what about the DP for it?


That holset is a good find for u.  I wish i had a turbo warehouse around here somewhere....
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Re: Donnies S-13 KA-T cliff notes build
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2009, 03:57:26 AM »

No sir that t3 went away instantly to a Z owner and the DP was just some crush bent tubing from VatoZone


You can look on ebay for the turbo but you may as well just go to this site. www.GoldFarbInc.com he is the biggest seller and is the guy i got mine from. He rates each turbo and checks them all out physically.


AabZ this turbo was fully spooled at about 3200rpms each time... when cooler outside even faster. I would get tp 3200 very fast and once it hit that point it would take off.  It is hard to acquire compressor maps for these some times, but this turbo matched my KA very very well. The technology was a little dated since this was the older H1C but it was a very tough turbo and took abuse. I didn't take advantage of the twin scroll housing.... i wonder if that hurt me some.
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Re: Donnies S-13 KA-T cliff notes build
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2009, 11:03:34 AM »

good stuff man... i just took it easy.. this was KA number 5.... and my time was short so i just played it rather safe... it was enough power to do well. i did 8 events along with 3 drag sessions inside of 2 months lol... the setup held up great... i was very pleased.

what kind of setup did you have?

turbonetics t3/t4  ~17psi
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STi 480's
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homemade 3" turbo-back
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Re: Donnies S-13 KA-T cliff notes build
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2009, 12:59:51 PM »

good stuff i loved to give people rides in it man... the KA seemed like it was suppose to be turbo.

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Re: Donnies S-13 KA-T cliff notes build
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2009, 03:17:54 PM »

good stuff i loved to give people rides in it man... the KA seemed like it was suppose to be turbo.

most def. especially the SR people
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Re: Donnies S-13 KA-T cliff notes build
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2009, 04:39:19 PM »

yea the Tq produced low is what got most.  the 2xxhp/tq range is very fun in the s-13 since its not very heavy. man i cant wait to get back almost and build the KA and push the boost up.... I would have liked to feel 300hp for sure.
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