Topic: GUN PEOPLE IN (Read 5382 times)

QikEnuF · « **on:** July 23, 2009, 07:08:38 PM »

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=134891131

If you recognize what it is, 3 internets.
If you bid on it, 5 internets.
If you win it, 100 internets.

What is wrong/curious about that picture

900s · « **Reply #1 on:** July 23, 2009, 07:10:48 PM »

Third fcg pin hole.

ATF sting...

jeffsciv23 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 23, 2009, 07:19:20 PM »

lol, that would be fun but yet expensive to shoot after awhile. and you never know it could be a sting but then again the guy didnt really give much information on it so you can just say that you didnt know that it was for FA lol

Jorsher · « **Reply #3 on:** July 23, 2009, 07:34:59 PM »

I like how the guy plays stupid like he has no clue, yet has set a reserve and decided the last picture was worth taking...

QikEnuF · « **Reply #4 on:** July 23, 2009, 07:35:55 PM »

Side note from looking more closely at the auction info, the Uzi receiver that the seller also has for sale is a great deal

LS1pwNzJ00 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 23, 2009, 08:47:42 PM »

its not drop in, win 150 internets if you can tell me why.

QikEnuF · « **Reply #6 on:** July 23, 2009, 09:29:16 PM »

Hrmmm. I think I know why, but I am not nearly as knowledgability having about ComBloc weapons as some here so I'll stfu. Was just searching for receivers and was like, wait a minute, what the fuck is that hole, whoa, nice. Seen it in a few gun forums since then too

bryantaylor · « **Reply #7 on:** July 23, 2009, 09:41:37 PM »

never been around any AKs, but i did notice the hole that looks like it has been drilled. and it has markings for auto selector, but there is no auto snear. are those even needed on AKs?

QikEnuF · « **Reply #8 on:** July 23, 2009, 09:46:12 PM »

Does not have a trigger group

SgtB · « **Reply #9 on:** July 23, 2009, 11:09:03 PM »

Does the AK use a split sear for semi and a solid sear for fa?

900s · « **Reply #10 on:** July 24, 2009, 01:53:51 AM »

Quote from: SgtB on July 23, 2009, 11:09:03 PM

Does the AK use a split sear for semi and a solid sear for fa?

Uses a seperate sear from the tigger mechanism to release the hammer when the bolt locks, the disconnector is moved out of the way by the safety selector to keep it from grabbing the hammer while the trigger is still pulled. That's what the third pin hole is for, the pivot pin for the auto sear.

Theoretically it could be fired full auto without an auto sear and no disconnector, but it would be more of a slam fire than any sort of controlled fully automatic operation. Even if the hammer managed to push against the firing pin, it more than likely wouldn't be able to lock the bolt fully into battery.

LS1pwNzJ00 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 24, 2009, 02:08:25 AM »

Quote from: 900s on July 24, 2009, 01:53:51 AM

Quote from: SgtB on July 23, 2009, 11:09:03 PM
Does the AK use a split sear for semi and a solid sear for fa?

Theoretically it could be fired full auto without an auto sear and no disconnector, but it would be more of a slam fire than any sort of controlled fully automatic operation. Even if the hammer managed to push against the firing pin, it more than likely wouldn't be able to lock the bolt fully into battery.

WRONG, maybe that would work if you had primers that ignited at the touch of a feather. If you remove the disconnector all you get is hammer follow. The hammer spring/hammer travels less distrance than the bolt carrier/recoil spring. I dont get why peole think it would fire FA if they tied down the disconnector, thats just retarded.

And while we're at it, why the fuck do we have turbo's? Lets just reroute the exhaust right back into the throttle body

durrrr

t_cel_t · « **Reply #12 on:** July 24, 2009, 05:11:08 AM »

i have removed the disconnector befor on my brothers rifle and i did get 1 double, the rest where 1 shots with a dented primer on the next shot. you really do need the autosear.
like scott said the problem is that the bolts hits home and then turns 90 degrees in the last 1/2'' while the bolt carrier has that little tail blocking the fireing pin untill its in full lock.
i have been interested in what would happen if you cut the end of the bolt carrier off and let the hammer follow the bolt and fire the round while the bolt carrier is still 'open', probably explode in your face but it might work.

if you play with the full auto parts you will notice that the autosear has to be in almost the exact perfect spot to work, you cant just drill a hole close to where you think it should be.

900s · « **Reply #13 on:** July 24, 2009, 02:42:21 PM »

Quote from: LS1pwNzJ00 on July 24, 2009, 02:08:25 AM

Quote from: 900s on July 24, 2009, 01:53:51 AM
Quote from: SgtB on July 23, 2009, 11:09:03 PM
Does the AK use a split sear for semi and a solid sear for fa?

Theoretically it could be fired full auto without an auto sear and no disconnector, but it would be more of a slam fire than any sort of controlled fully automatic operation. Even if the hammer managed to push against the firing pin, it more than likely wouldn't be able to lock the bolt fully into battery.

WRONG, maybe that would work if you had primers that ignited at the touch of a feather. If you remove the disconnector all you get is hammer follow. The hammer spring/hammer travels less distrance than the bolt carrier/recoil spring. I dont get why peole think it would fire FA if they tied down the disconnector, thats just retarded.

That's why i said THEORETICALLY, because you would need some light-ass primers and it would be only a coincidental slam-fire, not actual fully automatic fire.

LS1pwNzJ00 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 24, 2009, 05:26:56 PM »

likely you'd get an out of battery fire and the gun would blow up.

LS1pwNzJ00 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 24, 2009, 07:37:11 PM »

if you want a slamfire grind the disconnector down to the point where it barely holds onto the hammer and any light movement i.e. the carrier slamming home, will make the disco release the hammer. This will work but be very dangerous and unreliable

QikEnuF · « **Reply #16 on:** July 24, 2009, 08:13:44 PM »

Someone apparently had an out of battery fire with a .50 at the national long rang match. That would suck ass

LS1pwNzJ00 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 24, 2009, 08:38:34 PM »

ive had it happen on an AK before, the headspacing was off, and the magazine blow apart and the top cover popped off

QikEnuF · « **Reply #18 on:** July 24, 2009, 08:45:02 PM »

Does bad things when a bolt goes through a shoulder. And a .50 bolt is large and in charge. Why is the receiver not drop in?

LS1pwNzJ00 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 24, 2009, 09:00:42 PM »

rail isnt slotted for the autosear.

a long while back a few saigas came in with the hole drilled, the hole was plugged with a cap and the rail wasnt slotted but ATF went back and found all the people that bought them and took them back

QikEnuF · « **Reply #20 on:** July 24, 2009, 09:11:00 PM »

Rather douchebaggy of them. So all you would have to do is slot the fucker and rock and roll?

LS1pwNzJ00 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 24, 2009, 10:32:02 PM »

Maybe, likely it would need to be timed but maybe not

QikEnuF · « **Reply #22 on:** July 24, 2009, 10:44:15 PM »

Wonder how hard it would be to claim ignorance if the ATF came knocking if I winned it

random-strike · « **Reply #23 on:** July 24, 2009, 11:03:13 PM »

Quote from: QikEnuF on July 24, 2009, 10:44:15 PM

Wonder how hard it would be to claim ignorance if the ATF came knocking if I winned it

very hard

t_cel_t · « **Reply #24 on:** July 25, 2009, 12:19:44 AM »

i did see one conversion where they bent and extended the autosear so that the slot was not needed

LS1pwNzJ00 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 25, 2009, 01:54:51 AM »

Quote from: t_cel_t on July 25, 2009, 12:19:44 AM

i did see one conversion where they bent and extended the autosear so that the slot was not needed

I actually thought about this right now and it would not work without the slot unless you did extensive work to the bolt carrier/Asear

t_cel_t · « **Reply #26 on:** July 25, 2009, 03:24:29 AM »

i dont think it was tripped by the same location on the bolt carrier, it was a while ago i saw this and at the time i had no clue about how it really worked. hell i could be totally off on my memory anyways

LS1pwNzJ00 · « **Reply #27 on:** July 25, 2009, 02:15:30 PM »

the location that its tripped by on the bolt carrier has a little nub at the end which pushes the sear down farther releasing it, but it doesnt run over the sear completely, it just pushes it down. If you had the sear outside of the rail it would need to be legnthened somehow, avoid the rounds that are feeding, and not get completely run over whent he bolt rides all the way home, because if it does get runover the bolt will fly back and break it off or flip it upside down.

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