Topic: water and oil cooled vs just oil cooled turbo (Read 7853 times)

Rosecitycrx · « **on:** October 06, 2009, 01:12:43 AM »

ok so im gonna be running an oem ford turbo which is water and oil cooled. What i wanted to know is do i really need the coolant lines or will i be fine with just oil and a turbo timer?

speedjunky01 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 06, 2009, 01:26:16 AM »

should be just fine with a timer, if you can water lines will help it live longer

88dx · « **Reply #2 on:** October 06, 2009, 02:00:46 AM »

No water no timer

turbob16hatch · « **Reply #3 on:** October 06, 2009, 03:10:54 AM »

just a question if you have the water ports why wouldn't you run them?

Corey · « **Reply #4 on:** October 06, 2009, 03:29:08 AM »

the only time i would water cool a turbo is if it was a daily driven ball bearing turbo. race cars and journal bearings, waste of time and clutter in the bay.

SloS13 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 06, 2009, 08:14:12 AM »

Quote from: 88dx on October 06, 2009, 02:00:46 AM

No water no timer

Robb · « **Reply #6 on:** October 06, 2009, 09:44:32 AM »

Quote from: Corey on October 06, 2009, 03:29:08 AM

the only time i would water cool a turbo is if it was a daily driven ball bearing turbo. race cars and journal bearings, waste of time and clutter in the bay.

+1. Porsche has run oil cooled only turbos for many moons. Turbo failures are not common. I plan on removing the insane number of cooling lines in my 951 just to make it easier to work on. Cant do anything on that car without busting open the system.

spriggan · « **Reply #7 on:** October 06, 2009, 06:34:32 PM »

for piece of mind run the water lines.

ryan89crx · « **Reply #8 on:** October 06, 2009, 06:43:55 PM »

Quote from: SloS13 on October 06, 2009, 08:14:12 AM

Quote from: 88dx on October 06, 2009, 02:00:46 AM
No water no timer

Rosecitycrx · « **Reply #9 on:** October 07, 2009, 02:33:09 AM »

Ok thanks guys! I just want to get it done as basic as possible less to go wrong plus I'm being lazy. I'll just run them then.

bigdaddyvtec · « **Reply #10 on:** October 07, 2009, 03:15:53 AM »

Quote from: spriggan on October 06, 2009, 06:34:32 PM

for piece of mind run the water lines.

DO not post here again. Fag.

I will now search for your fail of an intro to see exactly HOW big of a fag you actually are

SloS13 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 07, 2009, 08:53:30 AM »

Quote from: spriggan on October 06, 2009, 06:34:32 PM

for piece of mind run the water lines.

running garden hose for your return line is ok, but not running water lines is bad?

I've had 5 turbo setups, all on DD's and NEVER hooked up water cooling and NEVER had a turbo go bad.

you say "piece of mind" but 2 more links in your cooling system is 2 more links in your cooling system that can potentially cause problems.

and btw, it's "peace of mind" goddamnit grammar fucker.

90boostdaccord · « **Reply #12 on:** October 07, 2009, 09:06:55 AM »

fuck the water lines, they clutter the engine bay, and giving that you are asking about running them, probably means you wouldn't be able to hook them up correctly.

Rosecitycrx · « **Reply #13 on:** October 07, 2009, 01:58:09 PM »

I'm not a complete idiot I just had never messed with a water cooled turbo. I really didn't want to run more lines then I have to. Now I know, so fuck em they staying unhooked! Thanks again guys.

dvst8r · « **Reply #14 on:** October 07, 2009, 02:12:33 PM »

I am the opposite, if the turbo has the capacity to be water cooled I run the lines, but then again I run turbo's a little harder then most, as I doubt any of the rest of you are pushing an hx-35 to 52psi, with 2000+ degree exhaust temps, or a 4088R to 65psi..

dvst8r · « **Reply #15 on:** October 07, 2009, 02:14:24 PM »

Quote from: danwjmu on October 07, 2009, 02:13:51 PM

Quote from: dvst8r on October 07, 2009, 02:12:33 PM
hx-35 to 52psi, with 2000+ degree exhaust temps.
wat? for real? for what kind of engine?

Cummins 5.9L

Robb · « **Reply #16 on:** October 07, 2009, 03:37:13 PM »

Quote from: dvst8r on October 07, 2009, 02:14:24 PM

Quote from: danwjmu on October 07, 2009, 02:13:51 PM
Quote from: dvst8r on October 07, 2009, 02:12:33 PM
hx-35 to 52psi, with 2000+ degree exhaust temps.
wat? for real? for what kind of engine?

Dseries of course. -10degrees timing across the board, spins the earth's rotation backward at WOT.

danz · « **Reply #17 on:** October 07, 2009, 07:54:48 PM »

Quote from: Rosecitycrx on October 07, 2009, 01:58:09 PM

I'm not a complete idiot I just had never messed with a water cooled turbo. I really didn't want to run more lines then I have to. Now I know, so fuck em they staying unhooked! Thanks again guys.

yes you are.

a non-water cooled turbo has larger oil passages and iis designed so the oil actually cools the turbo.

on a water cooled turbo there are coolant passages (that will end up just being filled with hot INSULATING air) and pinner oil passages.

if you care about the turbo use the water lines. if you want to fit in here, leave them unhooked.

i know what i would do....

fuck you mom. yep.

Ravage70 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 08, 2009, 12:28:47 AM »

I would run the water if possible. Otherwise an oil cooler would be a good investment.

patsmx5 · « **Reply #19 on:** October 08, 2009, 12:31:41 AM »

Quote from: danwjmu on October 07, 2009, 03:45:58 PM

Quote from: Robb on October 07, 2009, 03:37:13 PM
Quote from: dvst8r on October 07, 2009, 02:14:24 PM
Quote from: danwjmu on October 07, 2009, 02:13:51 PM
Quote from: dvst8r on October 07, 2009, 02:12:33 PM
hx-35 to 52psi, with 2000+ degree exhaust temps.
wat? for real? for what kind of engine?

Dseries of course. -10degrees timing across the board, spins the earth's rotation backward at WOT.
sick

turbob16hatch · « **Reply #20 on:** October 08, 2009, 12:39:39 AM »

Quote from: danz on October 07, 2009, 07:54:48 PM

if you care about the turbo use the water lines. if you want to fit in here, leave them unhooked.

haha, so true.

ironcrx · « **Reply #21 on:** October 08, 2009, 03:05:54 AM »

Quote from: turbob16hatch on October 08, 2009, 12:39:39 AM

Quote from: danz on October 07, 2009, 07:54:48 PM
if you care about the turbo use the water lines. if you want to fit in here, leave them unhooked.

haha, so true.

Right there.

vtech · « **Reply #22 on:** October 08, 2009, 10:46:19 PM »

i think the dp looks cool... has it made any passes yet?

Teg2boo · « **Reply #23 on:** October 08, 2009, 11:19:32 PM »

Quote from: vtech on October 08, 2009, 10:46:19 PM

i think the dp looks cool... has it made any passes yet?

Quoted for nothingtodowiththisthreadness.

ApexSilver06MR · « **Reply #24 on:** October 15, 2009, 12:00:58 PM »

Quote from: danwjmu on October 06, 2009, 08:17:08 AM

Timer + 5 speed = not a chance I want to take.

its only a turbo timer not an actual remote start unit...

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #25 on:** October 15, 2009, 12:13:27 PM »

Quote from: Robb on October 06, 2009, 09:44:32 AM

Quote from: Corey on October 06, 2009, 03:29:08 AM
the only time i would water cool a turbo is if it was a daily driven ball bearing turbo. race cars and journal bearings, waste of time and clutter in the bay.

+1. Porsche has run oil cooled only turbos for many moons. Turbo failures are not common. I plan on removing the insane number of cooling lines in my 951 just to make it easier to work on. Cant do anything on that car without busting open the system.

Yeah, but Porsche makes an engineering effort to make sure the turbo can shed it's heat. Most Hondas are 10 lbs of shit in a 5 lb bag with an IC blocking 90% of airflow to the radiator, if it were mine I'd run the water cooling. It's not the end of the world if you don't, but well worth the extra $30 and an hour to implement water lines correctly.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #26 on:** October 15, 2009, 12:50:55 PM »

Correct, motor oil is part of the cooling system. It's just oil breaks down quick if you get it too hot even if your temp guage reads "acceptably", coolant doesn't.

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