Topic: HEAT. how do you guys warm your garages in winter? (Read 10548 times)

WOT · « **on:** December 05, 2009, 07:56:19 AM »

Trying to think of the most cost effective way to work on my car in the winter. Ill be in a 2 car garage, and since my entire build other than paint will be done in this garage during a canadian winter, I need some heat.

I was thinking of simply using my BBQ and wheeling it close to where Im working, and running it.... thats free, just gotta keep filling propane (which could get expensive??) or would a shop heater of some sort work best??

What are you guys doin??

Any canadian guys know of any deals??

ktown powder coating · « **Reply #1 on:** December 05, 2009, 08:09:22 AM »

I have a 76,000 BTU gas natural gas heater in my garage, but if I was trying to do something on the cheap this is what I would do. http://sites.google.com/site/brianshomebrewsolar/

PS... if you do your BBQ idea you will die from the fumes.

CSaddict · « **Reply #2 on:** December 05, 2009, 08:24:00 AM »

Don't all you Canadians have wood stoves in your garage? My buddy did and he set up an oil drop to increase burn time. He just saved all the old motor oil and tranny fluid and fed it to the stove.

97Econobox · « **Reply #3 on:** December 05, 2009, 10:16:56 AM »

I got one of these radiant heat dish jammer packs and its cool. Of course i live in VA where its rather temprate. Not too cold here.

http://www.amazon.com/Optimus-H-4438-14-Inch-Energy-Saving-Oscillating/dp/B001F5ST84

turbob16hatch · « **Reply #4 on:** December 05, 2009, 10:18:46 AM »

i have used a 200,000 btu propane heater before, but i have a heated shop now, so i don't need to choke on fumes again.

90boostdaccord · « **Reply #5 on:** December 05, 2009, 10:19:02 AM »

i always get a warm feeling when i scam people out of there hard earned money

highroller54 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 05, 2009, 12:02:37 PM »

I have a little 220v construction heater that I cut the plug off and put the same plug as my welder in. I usally get up in the morning, plug it in and by the time I have breakfast and shower it warm. My garage is in my house though so its not like its balls cold.

patsmx5 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 05, 2009, 12:10:23 PM »

Before Katrina we had a wood burning heater in the garage we built. This was in a 26x28 garage with no drywall, no insulation, etc. Fire up that heater and it was toasty warm in 30 minutes. Didn't use it but maybe 10 times a year, but it sure was nice to have.

j.h.christ · « **Reply #8 on:** December 05, 2009, 12:22:29 PM »

Quote from: WOT on December 05, 2009, 07:56:19 AM

Trying to think of the most cost effective way to work on my car in the winter. Ill be in a 2 car garage, and since my entire build other than paint will be done in this garage during a canadian winter, I need some heat.

I was thinking of simply using my BBQ and wheeling it close to where Im working, and running it.... thats free, just gotta keep filling propane (which could get expensive??) or would a shop heater of some sort work best??

What are you guys doin??

Any canadian guys know of any deals??

give hiprofile his 200$ back

2point2 · « **Reply #9 on:** December 05, 2009, 12:29:37 PM »

Quote from: highroller54 on December 05, 2009, 12:02:37 PM

I have a little 220v construction heater that I cut the plug off and put the same plug as my welder in.

Exactly what I did. Mine has a built in thermostat and turns on/off as needed. It was somewhere in the neighbourhood of $75CAD and the welder plug is ~$10.

Don't mess with flame thrower propane heaters. They make everything in your garage 'sweat' and make you feel light-headed.

brine04 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 05, 2009, 12:33:01 PM »

Get a propane construction heater that look like the mini herman nelsons or find a cheap used wood stove. Mostly make sure you have insulation and the doors and windows are sealed well otherwise you will have to blast the heat all day.

Jorsher · « **Reply #11 on:** December 05, 2009, 02:28:31 PM »

Quote from: ktown powder coating on December 05, 2009, 08:09:22 AM

I have a 76,000 BTU gas natural gas heater in my garage, but if I was trying to do something on the cheap this is what I would do. http://sites.google.com/site/brianshomebrewsolar/

PS... if you do your BBQ idea you will die from the fumes.

Interesting homemade solar thing...I wonder how well it would work in the winter...I don't expect much.

Was surprised to see it was built in Madison AL...really close to where I am now.

Kain · « **Reply #12 on:** December 05, 2009, 02:38:13 PM »

no no no.

first you do not heat the air. the ground is still cold. lay a network of water pipes in the floor and cover that with something like a resin. then run hot water through those pipes.

Jorsher · « **Reply #13 on:** December 05, 2009, 02:39:17 PM »

Geothermal heat piped through your floor.

jagojon3 · « **Reply #14 on:** December 05, 2009, 02:40:34 PM »

Kain you're retarded.

And I don't use heat, I just fucking deal with it. Yea sometimes it sucks.

Kain · « **Reply #15 on:** December 05, 2009, 03:07:57 PM »

Quote from: jagojon3 on December 05, 2009, 02:40:34 PM

Kain you're retarded.

And I don't use heat, I just fucking deal with it. Yea sometimes it sucks.

how am i retarded? my whole entire house and garage is using hydronic heating and yet it heats up the floor, and thus the whole house stays relatively warm. it costs very little because its in the floor. its proper heating. the heat rises and warms teh whole room. along with the baseboards. even here in atlanta where it hardly ever dips below freezing, we have double pane windows with whatever gas they use. double insulated walls. the heating bills are really fucking low, and the cooling bills are really fucking low.

onlyflash944 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 05, 2009, 03:10:39 PM »

in the winter time, the dryer vent gets plumbed into the garage

j.h.christ · « **Reply #17 on:** December 05, 2009, 03:22:03 PM »

Quote from: Jorsher on December 05, 2009, 02:39:17 PM

Geothermal heat piped through your floor.

that's my occupation, sir. the initial cost is spendy, but for example i heat/cool my 2700 sq ft house for 40ish $ a month. if you can work it into your house loan for new construction, it pays for itself over a conventional electric/gas/oil system.

bigdaddyvtec · « **Reply #18 on:** December 05, 2009, 05:04:30 PM »

youi mean you have other jobs besides polishing the penises of random men for 20 a pop???

LOL

j.h.christ · « **Reply #19 on:** December 05, 2009, 05:19:33 PM »

Quote from: bigdaddyvtec on December 05, 2009, 05:04:30 PM

youi mean you have other jobs besides polishing the penises of random men for 20 a pop???

LOL

25$. cost of living increase.

fysh · « **Reply #20 on:** December 05, 2009, 05:24:40 PM »

Quote from: j.h.christ on December 05, 2009, 05:19:33 PM

Quote from: bigdaddyvtec on December 05, 2009, 05:04:30 PM
youi mean you have other jobs besides polishing the penises of random men for 20 a pop???

LOL

25$. cost of living increase.

I'm on the rebound.

Jorsher · « **Reply #21 on:** December 05, 2009, 07:20:38 PM »

Quote from: j.h.christ on December 05, 2009, 03:22:03 PM

Quote from: Jorsher on December 05, 2009, 02:39:17 PM
Geothermal heat piped through your floor.

that's my occupation, sir. the initial cost is spendy, but for example i heat/cool my 2700 sq ft house for 40ish $ a month. if you can work it into your house loan for new construction, it pays for itself over a conventional electric/gas/oil system.

I didn't know it was remotely feasible for residential use.

How does the ground type play into that? We have a high water table so all houses except a very very very small number are on slabs. Is the house shifting something you have to worry about?

I googled it and saw Carrier sells geothermal stuff...what does that type of thing cost for an average sized home?

Doug · « **Reply #22 on:** December 05, 2009, 07:24:32 PM »

Quote from: Jorsher on December 05, 2009, 02:28:31 PM

Quote from: ktown powder coating on December 05, 2009, 08:09:22 AM
I have a 76,000 BTU gas natural gas heater in my garage, but if I was trying to do something on the cheap this is what I would do. http://sites.google.com/site/brianshomebrewsolar/

PS... if you do your BBQ idea you will die from the fumes.

Interesting homemade solar thing...I wonder how well it would work in the winter...I don't expect much.

Was surprised to see it was built in Madison AL...really close to where I am now.

You should go green with your green

Jorsher · « **Reply #23 on:** December 05, 2009, 07:27:41 PM »

Quote from: Doug on December 05, 2009, 07:24:32 PM

Quote from: Jorsher on December 05, 2009, 02:28:31 PM
Quote from: ktown powder coating on December 05, 2009, 08:09:22 AM
I have a 76,000 BTU gas natural gas heater in my garage, but if I was trying to do something on the cheap this is what I would do. http://sites.google.com/site/brianshomebrewsolar/

PS... if you do your BBQ idea you will die from the fumes.

Interesting homemade solar thing...I wonder how well it would work in the winter...I don't expect much.

Was surprised to see it was built in Madison AL...really close to where I am now.

You should go green with your green

Actually have considered that. Just not sure I could draw 1.8kW from the sun and wind.

j.h. christ -- what about geothermal generators for the home? I was watching a documentary, "car of the future" yesterday, and it showed one of the huge geothermal power plants iceland uses...apparently because of their location, they can power the whole country with geothermal power.

Urban Indian · « **Reply #24 on:** December 05, 2009, 07:47:30 PM »

this works well. Even at -20Celcius it works

I now have one of these. I also have a standing one like the one that sits ontop the tanks.

Doug · « **Reply #25 on:** December 05, 2009, 07:51:55 PM »

Quote from: Jorsher on December 05, 2009, 07:27:41 PM

Quote from: Doug on December 05, 2009, 07:24:32 PM
Quote from: Jorsher on December 05, 2009, 02:28:31 PM
Quote from: ktown powder coating on December 05, 2009, 08:09:22 AM
I have a 76,000 BTU gas natural gas heater in my garage, but if I was trying to do something on the cheap this is what I would do. http://sites.google.com/site/brianshomebrewsolar/

PS... if you do your BBQ idea you will die from the fumes.

Interesting homemade solar thing...I wonder how well it would work in the winter...I don't expect much.

Was surprised to see it was built in Madison AL...really close to where I am now.

You should go green with your green

Actually have considered that. Just not sure I could draw 1.8kW from the sun and wind.

j.h. christ -- what about geothermal generators for the home? I was watching a documentary, "car of the future" yesterday, and it showed one of the huge geothermal power plants iceland uses...apparently because of their location, they can power the whole country with geothermal power.

Too bad you don't live close to a river. A paddle wheel generator would be semi easy to rig up. Where did you get 1.8kW? I's that a daily or hourly estimate?

Jorsher · « **Reply #26 on:** December 05, 2009, 07:57:15 PM »

I won't grow tomatoes again until I'm in a permanent residence, and in that situation I would want 2 x 600w hps "rooms" and 1 x 600w mh room, 3 x 600w = 1.8kW. Tomatoes monthly.

I'm assuming you'd get some tax credits for alternative power sources?

Doug · « **Reply #27 on:** December 05, 2009, 08:03:26 PM »

Yeah you get some tax cuts for using solar panels. That would be ironic the gov paying you to grow your own spaghetti sauce.

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #28 on:** December 05, 2009, 08:07:54 PM »

"tomatoes"

;D

Kain · « **Reply #29 on:** December 05, 2009, 08:24:20 PM »

Quote from: Doug on December 05, 2009, 07:51:55 PM

Too bad you don't live close to a river. A paddle wheel generator would be semi easy to rig up. Where did you get 1.8kW? I's that a daily or hourly estimate?

that should be an hourly estimate. 1.5 kw is easy to produce with nothing but a wind turbine and solar panel arrangement. keep in mind how much you get as far as wind a sun goes.

my home in greece will soon be outfitted with a 1kwh wind turbine and a 1kwh solar panel arrangement. in greece the sun is blazing and the days throughout the year are 95% clear with zero clouds in the sky. the wind blows like a hooker blows your cock desperately for that crack money. the European community will usually pay you double the price of electricity that you put in. so if you spend 100 euros a month, and you pump it in at equal rate of consumption, you will get about 200 euros back every month.

geo thermal heat piping works on the concept that a certain number of meters down underground, the temperature will always be 50 degree no matter what. usually using a fluid such as water, it gets cycled through the ground pipes and come up at 50 degree F, and when it cools off, it gets lowered into the ground again to heat up or cool off.

cooling a garage is going to be very difficult. for one, they are usually designed to not hold their temperature at all. the ceilings are far too high ( the hot air gets trapped ) and the cement floor is ciller in the winter time because its soo frigin and its like a friggin icecube in your water. i suggest putting a later of outdoor carpeting or that matting that is usually black, comes in giant puzzle pieces, and just lay them all over the floor. also, if your garage door faces the sun in the morning, paint it black. it will heat up nice.

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