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[Jorsher]

Most of Alabama stays between 65-70F underground.

Very nice.

According to ... I think it was Alabama Power ... it's about $7500 for a 3-ton unit which should be good for an "average-szied home", then about $10,000-30,000 to drill.

[Urban Indian]

And what is the useful life? Maintenance? Risks?

[Jorsher]

And what is the useful life? Maintenance? Risks?

The site said 25-50 years for system life.  It's underground piping, not something that gets much wear.

Said 5-10 years to recoup costs over a conventional system.  So yeah, if you could get it included in your home loan I wouldn't see a reason not to.  If you stay there, you'll save a bit of money after 5-10 years, if you move I'm sure it'd increase the property value.

Not really any risks.  It's water being pumped through pipes.

[Sinister]

Friend of mine uses a huge ass torpedo heater in his, thinking of buying his older/smaller one if he still has it lieing around. That thing is amazing

[90dx]

Buy a used wood stove then head to home depot for some duct and axe. Rape the local area for burnables. A little used oil on a drip feed is def a good idea as well saves on digging a hole in the backyard or driving to the local fish bearing stream.

[Doug]

Burn wood in a fireplace and setup some kind of thermal wheel that spins off the heat of the fire that converts to electricity.

[t_cel_t]

the other day i was at harbor freight and i saw that they now have wood stoves for sale, their not up on the sight though.
looks like they would be awesome for a garage and they were like $100, hopefully you cant fuck up cast iron.

[jarebear667]

i have a wood furnace just have to cut up a few trees and dry the wood over summer and split that shit. time consuming but a good workout. its been down to a little below 0 here and it stays a pretty nice 60-75 in the shop, (redone barn) 30x60 with a low ceiling. also have a 120,000 diesel heater to get it warm in there real fast.

[5thgenlx]

please, use your bbq and kill yourself. retard.

150k btu kerosene heater ftw

[jarebear667]

the other day i was at harbor freight and i saw that they now have wood stoves for sale, their not up on the sight though.
looks like they would be awesome for a garage and they were like $100, hopefully you cant fuck up cast iron.

RADIANT kinda sux tho but at least you can cook some shit on it haha

[g_shok]

warmed by the power of my own awesomeness

[Kain]

Burn wood in a fireplace and setup some kind of thermal wheel that spins off the heat of the fire that converts to electricity.

no. there is enough heat, but it has to be used differently.

boil some water, and convert it to steam. then... have fun with high pressure steam.

a wood burning stove is excellent. that cast iron gets hot and stays hot as fuck. and its realy efficient.

[crttaz]

waste of BTU's trying to convert water to steam in a small system. Have the wood stove heat normal water/antifreeze, the pipe it thru a few radiators or even old intercoolers. with small fans on them.

Low Pressure system is more efficent if heating one open space, like a garage.

[WOT]

Well I def cant do a wood stove, im renting and they def wouldnt allow it

[j.h.christ]

Well I def cant do a wood stove, im renting and they def wouldnt allow it

why don't you pay back the people you scammed, you hunk of dog shit

[crttaz]

How much room you have to heat?

I have a 80k BTU propane unit that will peel paint off the ceiling when cranked.

It has almost killed Fowee in the process

[Joseph Davis]

Well I def cant do a wood stove, im renting and they def wouldnt allow it

why don't you pay back the people you scammed, you hunk of dog shit

Sir, he needs that steady income as it's what he currently burns to stay warm.  If you could see fit to install geothermal heat in his house and garage, within a few years he will be able to pay them back off of the money he saved alone.

[ironcrx]

I use a cheap honeywell heater i got on ebay and stick a fan behind it to blow warm air in my direction.  works awesome

this thing is like 4 feet long

[Urban Indian]

waste of BTU's trying to convert water to steam in a small system. Have the wood stove heat normal water/antifreeze, the pipe it thru a few radiators or even old intercoolers. with small fans on them.

Low Pressure system is more efficent if heating one open space, like a garage.

Run a small sump pump? This would be an intense setup for a cabin deep in the woods. Get some old radiant water heaters and go to fucking town........... Solar energy to get the pump working.

And what is the useful life? Maintenance? Risks?

The site said 25-50 years for system life.  It's underground piping, not something that gets much wear.

Not really any risks.  It's water being pumped through pipes.

Pipe is pipe, it has a useful life if it is constantly thermo-cycling. Think of the cast iron pipe they used to use for houses, shit gets used and degrades after so many years. Then do you have to pay the 30,000 for a re-drill?


I am curious to all these non-conventional concepts

[j.h.christ]

Well I def cant do a wood stove, im renting and they def wouldnt allow it

why don't you pay back the people you scammed, you hunk of dog shit

Sir, he needs that steady income as it's what he currently burns to stay warm.  If you could see fit to install geothermal heat in his house and garage, within a few years he will be able to pay them back off of the money he saved alone.

well, he could start by canceling his internet service for a couple months to pay hiprofile back.

[t_cel_t]

the other day i was at harbor freight and i saw that they now have wood stoves for sale, their not up on the sight though.
looks like they would be awesome for a garage and they were like $100, hopefully you cant fuck up cast iron.

RADIANT kinda sux tho but at least you can cook some shit on it haha

what are you talking about, have you ever used a wood stove
1 small stove in an open space like a garage is what they excel at

[jarebear667]

i have a wood furnace just have to cut up a few trees and dry the wood over summer and split that shit. time consuming but a good workout. its been down to a little below 0 here and it stays a pretty nice 60-75 in the shop, (redone barn) 30x60 with a low ceiling. also have a 120,000 diesel heater to get it warm in there real fast.

the other day i was at harbor freight and i saw that they now have wood stoves for sale, their not up on the sight though.
looks like they would be awesome for a garage and they were like $100, hopefully you cant fuck up cast iron.

RADIANT kinda sux tho but at least you can cook some shit on it haha

what are you talking about, have you ever used a wood stove
1 small stove in an open space like a garage is what they excel at

yes but i have a furnace style where it blows out the hot air around it.  the stove the just sit there work well but the style i have is better imo.

[ochoa]

woodburners=win     keep your ass warm and double as a kitchen in the shop 

[Vagitarian]

Think its possible to simply have a wood stove in a 25X25 garage, and plumb the piping out of an existing regular height window, and just make a piece of plywood to fill the window around the pipe?? Or do the exhausts have to go straight up?

[Passenger]

Think its possible to simply have a wood stove in a 25X25 garage, and plumb the piping out of an existing regular height window, and just make a piece of plywood to fill the window around the pipe?? Or do the exhausts have to go straight up?

You can do a 90* turn just make sure you have the proper insulated piping. Dvst8r and I ghetto rigged a wood stove for my first shop on my moms farm years ago, it worked pretty well, we used to put frozen pizzas on top of the stove and them cook while the shop got warm.

[patsmx5]

on our wood stove we just used the gas pipe and did a 90* out the side of the garage about 15' above the floor (garage has open ceiling to roof) and then did another 90 once outside so it still vented up. Worked great, but use the right double-walled pipe and insulate things right.

[jarebear667]

you should have inslulated pipe to keep the exhaust hot and flowing should see a roof line and have a cap or back draft and exhaust will run you out hahaha i know..

[Jorsher]

Pipe is pipe, it has a useful life if it is constantly thermo-cycling. Think of the cast iron pipe they used to use for houses, shit gets used and degrades after so many years. Then do you have to pay the 30,000 for a re-drill?


I am curious to all these non-conventional concepts

I can see that...but how much thermo-cycling do you think is going on?  I couldn't imagine it being more than a 5-10 degree difference since it attempts to keep a constant temperature and most likely isn't going through the amount of wear your hot water piping does when it's frequently going from ambient temps to having considerably hotter water pumped through them.

I'd want to believe the 25-50 year "life" is a conservative figure and they usually last closer to the 40-50 year range, but would like to hear more detail on the maintenance costs.

Either way, if it pays itself off 5-10 years, it wouldn't be anything more than a hassle and torn up lawn if it broke after 25.

My uncle has a couple wood-burning stoves in his old-as-hell farm-home they restored.  They kept the original stoves, and either cuts some wood from his hunting land or gets some from someone that needs a tree cut.  Puts out a good damn amount of heat.

[klyph]

It all depends on the slab you install it onto. If it's on shady ground that shifts and cracks the slab, all your radiant plumbing is gonna get fuxt. The flexible wirsbo plumbing is less likely to give you problems, but don't think that you can run hard lines in the concrete and never have to worry about it. The best way is layer it like this:

Concrete
Wirsbo
Foam
gravel

Obviously, retrofitting an existing slab will be more prone to failure.

[chris]

I burn other peoples money