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[shadow]

ok so its my buddies car, says it wont start after its ran for awhile. so that leads me to believe its a main relay issue? its a 98 civic. car is completely stock. what else could be causing the problem?

[chris]

Run the car for awhile and then when it doesnt want to start check spark and fuel



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[crxvtec91]

Run the car for awhile and then when it doesnt want to start check spark and fuel



continue

Is it getting any kinda of spark? How many miles on the car?

[boosted99SiR]

compression check.

[Joseph Davis]

THe holy trinity of main relay, coil, and ignitor.

[crttaz]

THe holy trinity of main relay, coil, and ignitor.

Don't forget the ignition switch, there was a recall/TSB about it.

You'd think Honda's had Lucas components.

[Joseph Davis]

THe holy trinity of main relay, coil, and ignitor.

Don't forget the ignition switch, there was a recall/TSB about it.

You'd think Honda's had Lucas components.

I never experienced any of this Lucas failure people spoke of in British cars.  It was the same crappy bullet connector garbage that the Big 3 perpetrated, and the two cars I drove around for years had no electrical problems.  Magnetti Marelli, however, fucking sucked - I surmise the founder's children went on to pollute northern Jersey.

[patsmx5]

THe holy trinity of main relay, coil, and ignitor.

Don't forget the ignition switch, there was a recall/TSB about it.

You'd think Honda's had Lucas components.

I never experienced any of this Lucas failure people spoke of in British cars.  It was the same crappy bullet connector garbage that the Big 3 perpetrated, and the two cars I drove around for years had no electrical problems.  Magnetti Marelli, however, fucking sucked - I surmise the founder's children went on to pollute northern Jersey.

I has. Friend had a V12 jag, that car had lucas electronics all over it, and they were shit. Everything was finicky, I don't think it ever ran rigiht.

[Joseph Davis]

THe holy trinity of main relay, coil, and ignitor.

Don't forget the ignition switch, there was a recall/TSB about it.

You'd think Honda's had Lucas components.

I never experienced any of this Lucas failure people spoke of in British cars.  It was the same crappy bullet connector garbage that the Big 3 perpetrated, and the two cars I drove around for years had no electrical problems.  Magnetti Marelli, however, fucking sucked - I surmise the founder's children went on to pollute northern Jersey.

I has. Friend had a V12 jag, that car had lucas electronics all over it, and they were shit. Everything was finicky, I don't think it ever ran rigiht.

Lucas makes shit to the automaker's spec, like any other OEM manufacturer.  Beru makes the Porsche coils that never goes bad, they also make the VW coils that fail fail fail fail.  They (Lucas) are also the world leader in airplane electronics.

FYI, there's never been a Jag worth a shit until Ford started making them.

[patsmx5]

THe holy trinity of main relay, coil, and ignitor.

Don't forget the ignition switch, there was a recall/TSB about it.

You'd think Honda's had Lucas components.

I never experienced any of this Lucas failure people spoke of in British cars.  It was the same crappy bullet connector garbage that the Big 3 perpetrated, and the two cars I drove around for years had no electrical problems.  Magnetti Marelli, however, fucking sucked - I surmise the founder's children went on to pollute northern Jersey.

I has. Friend had a V12 jag, that car had lucas electronics all over it, and they were shit. Everything was finicky, I don't think it ever ran rigiht.

FYI, there's never been a Jag worth a shit until.

Agreed.

[Joseph Davis]

FUCK YOU!!

[crttaz]

Transport Canada Recall # 2002096
Recall Date 2002/05/24
Notification Type Safety TC
System Electrical
Manufacturer Recall Number AJ63, AJ64, AJ62, HJ81, HJ82, HJ83, HJ84, HJ85
Units Affected 188,463
Category Car, SUV
Recall Details
On certain vehicles electrical contacts in the ignition switch can degrade due to the high electrical current passing through the switch when the vehicle is started. Worn contacts could cause the engine to stall without warning, increasing the risk of a crash. Correction: Dealers will replace the ignition switch.
Make   Model   Model Year(s) Affected
ACURA CL 1997 1998 1999
ACURA EL 1998 1999 2000
ACURA TL 1999
HONDA ACCORD COUPE 1997 1998 1999
HONDA ACCORD SEDAN 1997 1998 1999
HONDA CIVIC HATCHBACK 1998 1999 2000
HONDA CIVIC SEDAN 1998 1999 2000
HONDA CR-V 1997 1998 1999
HONDA ODYSSEY 1997 1998 1999
HONDA PRELUDE 1997 1998 1999

[Joseph Davis]

I never argued your entirely valid bit of info about the ignition switches, Chuck.  Don't you want to argue Lucas electronics with me??   

[crttaz]

I'm smart enough not to work on European cars!

[Joseph Davis]

More like you can't fit in one.

Not really a stab, okay maybe a little, but I only fit in my GT6 by sliding the seat all the way back and leaning it all the way back.  As it is, I'm 30 lbs too heavy to be comfortable in one.  7.5'X4.5' cars FTL.

[sewell94]

More like you can't fit in one.

Not really a stab, okay maybe a little, but I only fit in my GT6 by sliding the seat all the way back and leaning it all the way back.  As it is, I'm 30 lbs too heavy to be comfortable in one.  7.5'X4.5' cars FTL.

Dont hate us fat people because we can put the tops  down and feel the wind through our hair. 




















ok

[crttaz]

More like you can't fit in one.

Not really a stab, okay maybe a little, but I only fit in my GT6 by sliding the seat all the way back and leaning it all the way back.  As it is, I'm 30 lbs too heavy to be comfortable in one.  7.5'X4.5' cars FTL.

RHD MGB, I fit nicely, but it was a EP race car. I'm also drove a Sunbeam Tiger with a choked 347. Damn restrictor via SCCA.

But you having dealt with Lucas, you atleast have an excuse for your baldness.

[Joseph Davis]

More like you can't fit in one.

Not really a stab, okay maybe a little, but I only fit in my GT6 by sliding the seat all the way back and leaning it all the way back.  As it is, I'm 30 lbs too heavy to be comfortable in one.  7.5'X4.5' cars FTL.

Dont hate us fat people because we can put the tops  down and feel the wind through our hair. 

Hard to put the top down on a GT6.

But you having dealt with Lucas, you atleast have an excuse for your baldness.

What part of I never had a problem did you misread?  I broke a bunch of halfshaft u-joints until I realised the shaft was bent, after that it was smooth sailing.  Then I Sewell'd the car, just like he did his 930.

[orevosy09]

no the fuel pump IS  priming like it should,thats why I was asking could it still be a main relay issue.

Im going to try the stuff you suggested.If it is the ignition switch would that have caused it to die and then not be able to start back up but still crank?

[Joseph Davis]

Since the main relay controls the fuel pump, and the fuel pump primes correctly, you definitely have a main relay problem.

[Ntrain2k]

Since the main relay controls the fuel pump, and the fuel pump primes correctly, you definitely have a main relay problem.