Topic: about to place my first order at ace stainless (Read 41800 times)

jay · « **Reply #120 on:** February 25, 2010, 05:49:14 PM »

lol i think this is just 1 wire so ill run 3 seprete wires one for each of the hot and 1 for ground?

http://cgi.ebay.com/THHN-10-AWG-GAUGE-BLACK-STRANDED-WIRE-500_W0QQitemZ150415642297QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2305788eb9

turbob16hatch · « **Reply #121 on:** February 25, 2010, 06:43:02 PM »

Just call another electriction. It's not worth burning your house down. BTW, if you do burn your shit down you think insurance is ever going to cover that once they see your ghetto wiring? NO.....

Go buy a proper welder extention cord if your not hard wiring in the 220v, there not cheap but there fully sealed and there no risk of a fire.

crxvtec91 · « **Reply #122 on:** February 26, 2010, 02:16:57 PM »

This post is FTW

CSaddict · « **Reply #123 on:** February 26, 2010, 04:54:29 PM »

Quote from: turbob16hatch on February 25, 2010, 06:43:02 PM

Just call another electriction. It's not worth burning your house down. BTW, if you do burn your shit down you think insurance is ever going to cover that once they see your ghetto wiring? NO.....

Go buy a proper welder extention cord if your not hard wiring in the 220v, there not cheap but there fully sealed and there no risk of a fire.

This.

jay · « **Reply #124 on:** February 26, 2010, 05:42:52 PM »

http://www.lowes.com/pd_20424-76863-THQL2140_0_?productId=1058217&Ntt=40amp%20breaker&Ntk=i_products&pl=1&currentURL=/pl__0__s?newSearch=true$Ntt=40amp%20breaker$y=0$x=0&spellCorrectedTerm=

jay · « **Reply #125 on:** February 26, 2010, 08:09:22 PM »

pictures are now out of order but whatever

SgtB · « **Reply #126 on:** February 26, 2010, 10:39:44 PM »

breakers and rating. Round up:
14 -15amp
12- 20amp
10 - 30 amp
8 - 40 amp
Don't mix them up. you'll either burn shit up, or waste money on copper you can't get full use of. What's the amp draw on the welder's name plate at 240? You need ?/2 unless it's a four prong, and then you need ?/3

glustic · « **Reply #127 on:** February 26, 2010, 11:17:39 PM »

I forsee you burning your house down, just remember to take pics of said damage.

CSaddict · « **Reply #128 on:** February 26, 2010, 11:21:29 PM »

Buk, get the specs on the welder of what it requires for service and we can tell you what you need.

jay · « **Reply #129 on:** February 26, 2010, 11:29:07 PM »

bigwig · « **Reply #130 on:** February 26, 2010, 11:30:42 PM »

I'd run 6 gauge wire if you are thinking about having a 50' run.

jay · « **Reply #131 on:** February 26, 2010, 11:37:05 PM »

Quote from: bigwig on February 26, 2010, 11:30:42 PM

I'd run 6 gauge wire if you are thinking about having a 50' run.

christ... it keeps getting worse and worse.. now i have to spend alot more than i thought

jay · « **Reply #132 on:** February 26, 2010, 11:41:11 PM »

http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o303e_mil.pdf

manual says 10 gauge is fine

bigwig · « **Reply #133 on:** February 26, 2010, 11:47:06 PM »

We run 230V in the US, not 200. It says 6 gauge is good up to 150ft. 10 gauge is probably ok for 20-30ft. 50ft you could probably be ok with 8 gauge. If the difference in price is only $10-20, I'd run 6 gauge.

jay · « **Reply #134 on:** February 26, 2010, 11:51:35 PM »

Quote from: bigwig on February 26, 2010, 11:47:06 PM

We run 230V in the US, not 200. It says 6 gauge is good up to 150ft. 10 gauge is probably ok for 20-30ft. 50ft you could probably be ok with 8 gauge. If the difference in price is only $10-20, I'd run 6 gauge.

does the manual really call for a 80 amp breaker?

turbob16hatch · « **Reply #135 on:** February 27, 2010, 12:04:25 AM »

Quote from: jay on February 26, 2010, 11:51:35 PM

Quote from: bigwig on February 26, 2010, 11:47:06 PM
We run 230V in the US, not 200. It says 6 gauge is good up to 150ft. 10 gauge is probably ok for 20-30ft. 50ft you could probably be ok with 8 gauge. If the difference in price is only $10-20, I'd run 6 gauge.

does the manual really call for a 80 amp breaker?

I run a 40 amp breaker on my sync 200 and push it harder then you can/would on your welder. I Have never popped the breaker even after pushing it for a few hours on 180 amps. So i can't imagine you needing a 80 amp breaker.

bigwig · « **Reply #136 on:** February 27, 2010, 12:13:46 AM »

Jay,

Run a 60A breaker with 6-8 gauge wire. Do not run individual wires, that is against code. You could probably run 10 gauge wire, but it seems 8 gauge wire is only $10 more than the 10 gauge, so you should run the 8 gauge wire.

Electrical code is typically overkill, but the difference in cost between doing it right and wrong is typically not enough to do it wrong.

jay · « **Reply #137 on:** February 27, 2010, 12:24:26 AM »

Quote from: bigwig on February 27, 2010, 12:13:46 AM

Jay,

Run a 60A breaker with 6-8 gauge wire. Do not run individual wires, that is against code. You could probably run 10 gauge wire, but it seems 8 gauge wire is only $10 more than the 10 gauge, so you should run the 8 gauge wire.

Electrical code is typically overkill, but the difference in cost between doing it right and wrong is typically not enough to do it wrong.

the house will never get inspected.. its detroit.. lol

but i guess ill go ahead and go with 8 gauge.. and the 60amp breaker...

malichite · « **Reply #138 on:** February 27, 2010, 01:13:03 AM »

Quote from: glustic on February 26, 2010, 11:17:39 PM

I forsee you burning your house down, just remember to take pics of said damage.

danz · « **Reply #139 on:** February 27, 2010, 02:11:56 AM »

stop being a pussy and start wiring shit.

how do you think they taught us how to wire up a grow op? exactly they dont. you just do shit.

CSaddict · « **Reply #140 on:** February 27, 2010, 09:54:50 AM »

I run a 30amp breaker on my Thermal Arc Pro Wave 185 and it has never tripped.

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #141 on:** February 27, 2010, 01:38:46 PM »

6 gauge / 50 amp breaker.

bigwig · « **Reply #142 on:** February 27, 2010, 02:43:13 PM »

Quote from: CSaddict on February 27, 2010, 09:54:50 AM

I run a 30amp breaker on my Thermal Arc Pro Wave 185 and it has never tripped.

Your machine is an inverter though. It probably draws 27A at full tilt.

jay · « **Reply #143 on:** March 01, 2010, 12:10:34 PM »

ended up getting 60 feet of 6 awg

doing it right just incase this works out and i upgrade to a better welder

jay · « **Reply #144 on:** March 01, 2010, 01:35:35 PM »

just installed the 220v... FUCK electricians.. this shit was kind of easy..

didnt even get shocked..

jay · « **Reply #145 on:** March 01, 2010, 02:04:53 PM »

64 bucks for an 11" x 16" steel plate 1" thick

im gonna look into thinner material

but ideally how thick should the welding table top be

jay · « **Reply #146 on:** March 01, 2010, 02:15:15 PM »

ouch

this bitch calls for 2 1/8" thick plate for the top :p

http://www.lincolnelectric.com/knowledge/articles/content/howto_weldingtable.asp

dvst8r · « **Reply #147 on:** March 01, 2010, 02:50:08 PM »

Quote from: jay on March 01, 2010, 02:04:53 PM

64 bucks for an 11" x 16" steel plate 1" thick

im gonna look into thinner material

but ideally how thick should the welding table top be

I like 1/2"+ for my welding table tops, but have done 1/8th over plywood, and 3/16th's over a coffee table a few times too.

jay · « **Reply #148 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:51:47 PM »

just took the welder and gas cylinder to the basement that was a bitch lol

i may or may not start welding tonight but i dont really have anything to weld on yet

tomorrow im buying vices// angle grinder/bench grinder and then hitting up a metal store for some metalllllllllllll for table top and jig making

danz · « **Reply #149 on:** March 02, 2010, 03:04:43 AM »

nice weld in the basement with no ventilation! that is sick

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