Topic: RHMT oil manifold. (Read 35903 times)

hamburgler · « **on:** March 31, 2009, 03:05:22 AM »

I built myself an oil manifold today, so that I don't have tee's hanging off the back of my block. I also routed my Vtec oil line from the manifold too. Now Ill sell my Golden Eagle sandwich plate and think to myself, why didn't I do this earlier.

brine04 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 31, 2009, 03:10:08 AM »

Hmmm I like that. How is the oil pressure? does it flow enough volume from the block fitting to supply all of that?

bigdaddyvtec · « **Reply #2 on:** March 31, 2009, 03:12:30 AM »

Exactly what Ive had going on for a couple years... No leaks, and free from vibration being on the firewall...

hamburgler · « **Reply #3 on:** March 31, 2009, 03:13:22 AM »

Quote from: brine04 on March 31, 2009, 03:10:08 AM

Hmmm I like that. How is the oil pressure? does it flow enough volume from the block fitting to supply all of that?

I hope so. I have not actually run the car yet. The volume is not that big. It's actually pretty small within the manifold. The two oil pressure sensors will just be like a plug, so really I'm just teeing off the back of the block to the Vtec head and turbo. Ill keep you posted.

brine04 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 31, 2009, 03:48:34 AM »

Quote from: hamburgler on March 31, 2009, 03:13:22 AM

Quote from: brine04 on March 31, 2009, 03:10:08 AM
Hmmm I like that. How is the oil pressure? does it flow enough volume from the block fitting to supply all of that?

I hope so. I have not actually run the car yet. The volume is not that big. It's actually pretty small within the manifold. The two oil pressure sensors will just be like a plug, so really I'm just teeing off the back of the block to the Vtec head and turbo. Ill keep you posted.

Ok cool let us know. I have one of those PA air manifolds sitting around cause I bought the GE vacuum manifold.

confUsed · « **Reply #5 on:** March 31, 2009, 06:53:28 AM »

Cool, I made the same thing a couple months ago, same placement and all

Yours a bit cleaner, though...

If you want the oil pressure sender to show the pressure the engine is seeing, the oil hose coming into the manifold should be bigger than the hoses going to the turbo/vtec.

Evans Performance · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2009, 07:13:59 AM »

i got one of those blue things from Lowerit when he was down for the GRM $2008 challenge. i was going to do the same thing, but just havent gotten around to it yet.

turbohf · « **Reply #7 on:** March 31, 2009, 10:00:56 AM »

i hope that your not pulling oil from the stock oil pressure sender spot $:-\$

onlyflash944 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2009, 10:22:21 AM »

what fitting did you use for your stainless line to the back of the block?

malichite · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2009, 11:52:41 AM »

Quote from: turbohf on March 31, 2009, 10:00:56 AM

i hope that your not pulling oil from the stock oil pressure sender spot $:-\$

I have a similar setup and I am pulling oil from the stock location. I drilled it out to 1/4 NPT though and run a -6 off the block to feed the distroblock. Oil pressure is great. about 70 on startup and 15ish at idle when warm.

hamburgler · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2009, 11:58:56 AM »

Quote from: turbohf on March 31, 2009, 10:00:56 AM

i hope that your not pulling oil from the stock oil pressure sender spot $:-\$

Yeah, I am. Why? Its an 1/8" NPT to -4AN fitting.

ratcityrex · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2009, 12:41:02 PM »

Ive heard of people running into vreck not working when you pull it from the stock oil sender location. I dont think it flows enough oil for the head and the turbo at higher rpms.

brine04 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2009, 12:47:50 PM »

Quote from: ratcityrex on March 31, 2009, 12:41:02 PM

Ive heard of people running into vreck not working when you pull it from the stock oil sender location. I dont think it flows enough oil for the head and the turbo at higher rpms.

That's my concern too, Is there somewhere else to pull it from or do guys just go to a sandwich?

Loserkidwac · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2009, 02:25:32 PM »

I've seen a fitting that goes in place of the one plug on the oil pump not sure how safe it is to tap into that location but it def would provide enough oil pressure :-P

Lowerit · « **Reply #14 on:** March 31, 2009, 02:52:36 PM »

Best of all , they aare $4 @ princess auto.

I use them for vacuum on both the GRM car and the Corvair.

Gonna have to try it for oil.

hamburgler · « **Reply #15 on:** March 31, 2009, 03:32:54 PM »

Quote from: ratcityrex on March 31, 2009, 12:41:02 PM

Ive heard of people running into vreck not working when you pull it from the stock oil sender location. I dont think it flows enough oil for the head and the turbo at higher rpms.

Ya, I hear what your saying. Ill have to try it out then and Ill get back to all of you. I thought about that, but figured since the whole motor is under oil pressure, a -4AN hole shouldnt make much of a difference. I was getting around 60psi at higher RPM with the oil pressure gauge in line with my turbo. Now, the only difference is that it's teed off to Vtec as well. Thanks for the suggestions anyways.

Loserkidwac · « **Reply #16 on:** March 31, 2009, 03:54:51 PM »

Quote from: hamburgler on March 31, 2009, 03:32:54 PM

Quote from: ratcityrex on March 31, 2009, 12:41:02 PM
Ive heard of people running into vreck not working when you pull it from the stock oil sender location. I dont think it flows enough oil for the head and the turbo at higher rpms.

Ya, I hear what your saying. Ill have to try it out then and Ill get back to all of you. I thought about that, but figured since the whole motor is under oil pressure, a -4AN hole shouldnt make much of a difference. I was getting around 60psi at higher RPM with the oil pressure gauge in line with my turbo. Now, the only difference is that it's teed off to Vtec as well. Thanks for the suggestions anyways.

I think its more to due with the amount of oil and not the pressure, the oil pressure port is kind of small to feed a turbo and vtec head...but you might be fine...

patsmx5 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 31, 2009, 04:04:04 PM »

Quote from: hamburgler on March 31, 2009, 03:32:54 PM

Quote from: ratcityrex on March 31, 2009, 12:41:02 PM
Ive heard of people running into vreck not working when you pull it from the stock oil sender location. I dont think it flows enough oil for the head and the turbo at higher rpms.

Ya, I hear what your saying. Ill have to try it out then and Ill get back to all of you. I thought about that, but figured since the whole motor is under oil pressure, a -4AN hole shouldnt make much of a difference. I was getting around 60psi at higher RPM with the oil pressure gauge in line with my turbo. Now, the only difference is that it's teed off to Vtec as well. Thanks for the suggestions anyways.

You have to consider pressure and volume. When you add another device in the line, you'll have a pressure drop. I don't know shit about hondas, but I've seen threads where people did what you just did and fucked up something from it not getting enough oil. Personally, My turbo has it's own feed. If I had vtak, it would have it's own feed too.

malichite · « **Reply #18 on:** March 31, 2009, 04:06:03 PM »

Quote from: Loserkidwac on March 31, 2009, 02:25:32 PM

I've seen a fitting that goes in place of the one plug on the oil pump not sure how safe it is to tap into that location but it def would provide enough oil pressure :-P

Problem is that port is right behind the alternator bracket, at least on the d series there is no way to use that.

Loserkidwac · « **Reply #19 on:** March 31, 2009, 08:22:27 PM »

Quote from: malichite on March 31, 2009, 04:06:03 PM

Quote from: Loserkidwac on March 31, 2009, 02:25:32 PM
I've seen a fitting that goes in place of the one plug on the oil pump not sure how safe it is to tap into that location but it def would provide enough oil pressure :-P

Problem is that port is right behind the alternator bracket, at least on the d series there is no way to use that.

Word I think the one i saw was for an H series...probably why it isn't used to often then...

hamburgler · « **Reply #20 on:** March 31, 2009, 08:24:28 PM »

Quote from: patsmx5 on March 31, 2009, 04:04:04 PM

Quote from: hamburgler on March 31, 2009, 03:32:54 PM
Quote from: ratcityrex on March 31, 2009, 12:41:02 PM
Ive heard of people running into vreck not working when you pull it from the stock oil sender location. I dont think it flows enough oil for the head and the turbo at higher rpms.

Ya, I hear what your saying. Ill have to try it out then and Ill get back to all of you. I thought about that, but figured since the whole motor is under oil pressure, a -4AN hole shouldnt make much of a difference. I was getting around 60psi at higher RPM with the oil pressure gauge in line with my turbo. Now, the only difference is that it's teed off to Vtec as well. Thanks for the suggestions anyways.

You have to consider pressure and volume. When you add another device in the line, you'll have a pressure drop. I don't know shit about hondas, but I've seen threads where people did what you just did and fucked up something from it not getting enough oil. Personally, My turbo has it's own feed. If I had vtak, it would have it's own feed too.

Which is why I'll watch the oil pressure. My guess is that oil pressure will be fine until Vtec kicks in. Then there will be about 10psi pressure drop, to 50psi, which is still fine. But Ill let you all know!

danz · « **Reply #21 on:** March 31, 2009, 09:30:39 PM »

Quote from: Lowerit on March 31, 2009, 02:52:36 PM

Best of all , they aare $4 @ princess auto.

I use them for vacuum on both the GRM car and the Corvair.

Gonna have to try it for oil.

princess vato for the win :somb:

hamburgler · « **Reply #22 on:** April 01, 2009, 02:55:22 AM »

Quote from: danz on March 31, 2009, 09:30:39 PM

Quote from: Lowerit on March 31, 2009, 02:52:36 PM
Best of all , they aare $4 @ princess auto.

I use them for vacuum on both the GRM car and the Corvair.

Gonna have to try it for oil.

princess vato for the win :somb:

Magic markers for the win

brine04 · « **Reply #23 on:** April 01, 2009, 03:13:48 AM »

Nice block heater. You're in Calgary right? If so drive down to Okotoks and do some burnouts and panty rippers in front of Dvst8r's house to motivate that old fuck to work on his cummins.

t_cel_t · « **Reply #24 on:** April 01, 2009, 03:34:49 AM »

how does the vtec work, is it a valve that opens up and the oil pressure holds it open without the oil drainign back to the pan or does it continuously drain back?

hamburgler · « **Reply #25 on:** April 01, 2009, 03:52:42 AM »

Quote from: t_cel_t on April 01, 2009, 03:34:49 AM

how does the vtec work, is it a valve that opens up and the oil pressure holds it open without the oil drainign back to the pan or does it continuously drain back?

Huh? Yes, there is a pin that locks the high cam. Of course all oil from the head will drain back to the pan.

slappynuts · « **Reply #26 on:** April 01, 2009, 05:33:00 AM »

I dont think vtec uses alot of oil volume. Its just a small hydraulic pin that pops into place. Once its locked the only real volume of oil would be from leaks around the pin (am I correct?).

Loserkidwac · « **Reply #27 on:** April 01, 2009, 12:07:41 PM »

the concern isn't how much vtec uses but if there is enough oil flowing to the head to keep the cams lubed well

7808 · « **Reply #28 on:** April 01, 2009, 02:07:50 PM »

those blue things are like $2 at harbor freight and work well for vac manifolds too

rsmith2786 · « **Reply #29 on:** April 01, 2009, 03:17:36 PM »

Quote from: Loserkidwac on April 01, 2009, 12:07:41 PM

the concern isn't how much vtec uses but if there is enough oil flowing to the head to keep the cams lubed well

Isn't that a separate supply from between cylinder 2 and 3?

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