very bad day for the US. buy it might accelerate the collapse of the federal government. which may be one good thing to come of it.
total disgrace.
i wonder if this is the US our founders envisioned... where if you don't BUY a service from a corporation. you will be fined or jailed. totally anti-liberty.
i wonder if the founders envisioned mega-corporations that worship profit above all else, pushing them to offer as little service as possible for the highest price feasible, and are also regulated/overseen in government by their former employees/clients. (do some reading on monsanto corp)
i wonder if the founders imagined that the justice system they set up would so outrageously favor the entity that can pile the most cash onto the scales, regardless of right or wrong.
i wonder if the founders ever could have imagined the economy being so fragile that the people who didn't have health insurance, or didn't have appropriate healthcare to cover their exorbitant medical expenses, could indirectly drag the housing and mortgage industry- and with it our economy- into the depths of hell when they couldn't pay their bills anymore.
i wonder if the founders ever imagined that our economy would be based more heavily on finance (moving money around to make more money) than production.
i'm sorry, but you're a fool if you think this bill is the end of the united states. i find it humorous that the people who claim to love the country so much are the ones writing it off as being so ridiculously fragile.
all those problems are because of government. more government will not make this better, it will make it worse.
buying from a company = choice
buying from the government = NOT CHOICE
But you can't have it both ways. That's what I find so strange about the conservative/capitalist argument that the market will regulate itself- if you advocate companies having the ability to grow completely unchecked, you NEED to have sufficient government control to step in when things inevitably go wrong.
You didn't read up on monsanto corp like I told you to. Basically, they are a monopoly in the soybean industry. There IS no choice- you buy from monsanto, or you recycle your old crops and wait for monsanto to take you to court for patent infringement when seeds from growers next to your land infiltrate your crops as plants naturally do.
Who oversees companies like monsanto in government? Former company CEOs and officers!
If you want to deregulate industry, there needs to be at least one entity that is still large enough to drop the hammer when the absolute profit mentaliity corrupts, which it will inevitably do. The only orgaanization with the financial resources to compete in the legal system with mulitinational corporations IS government.
I don't see the healthcare bill as a handout, or trying to redistribute wealth, I see it as protection for people like me who have taken the initiative to get and maintain adequet care from having to foot the bill for people who didn't.
I don't disagree with conservatism completely. I would love smaller government with less intrusion, but that means regulating industry such that its still possible for it to step in when necessary. I would love cuts in spending that would make the tax dollars I do pay more effective. I don't think the founders ever expected the principle of checks and balances to NEED to apply outside government and between government and industry, but the necessity has become a reality.
I suppose much of this depends on your philosophy of ethics though as well. "Profit above all else" is in direct conflict with Kantian ethics (people used as means and not ends), utilitarianism (most good for the most people), judeo-christian ethics (worldly possessions above all else), buddhism (anti-materialism), aritstotle's "golden mean" (everything in moderation). I'm not exactly sure where capitalism falls, to be honest. Objectivism seems the best fit I guess.