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[SQ is the SQUAD]

ok the chasis is an 89 accord coupe. swapping in a turbo ls setup. going all out 700whp goal. i am starting to gather parts to put together the fuel system first. trying to decided if i want to run an external pump with my brand new gas tank sumped. this isent going to be a daily driver but  i will hit the streets with it. a few years ago i brought a new gas tank that has been sitting here. i just really dont want to use any of the old accord stuff. i really dont know much about external pumps.

i am thjinking with going with a gt40, as far as injectors obvioussly 1000cc + i might run with 1600's just to be on the safe side.

imput please

[d112crzy]

First off, what fuel? If E85, you're going to need about 2000cc's worth of injector. 1000's start to max out around 600-650 on E85. And that's with a capable pump setup.

But dual Bosch 044 pumps, your choice of injectors, an adjustable fpr capable of 100psi+ base pressure and some upgraded feed and return lines. That will be enough for your goals.

Why a gt40? With the various new turbos out, I don't see why not to run them. Look into Precision and some new BorgWarner stuff.

[SQ is the SQUAD]

i was looking at a borg warner the other day.

honestly i dont know much about e85, i am hoping to run some 110.

my inital thoughs are to sump the tank with an external pump. run all new feed and return lines. not sure what size to go on the lines.

the only things i am really solid on and prob sending my head to rlz and having rockmotorsport do the cams/valvetrain. other than that everything motor/turbo wise is still up on the air. i am def going non vtec. already have the p8r head.

but right now  iam just focusing on getting a rolling chasis wired up obd1 and a sustainable fuel system

[bigwig]

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2726790

I'm sure this link will be censored, but it's your answer.

[Teg2boo]

i was looking at a borg warner the other day.

honestly i dont know much about e85, i am hoping to run some 110.

my inital thoughs are to sump the tank with an external pump. run all new feed and return lines. not sure what size to go on the lines.

the only things i am really solid on and prob sending my head to rlz and having rockmotorsport do the cams/valvetrain. other than that everything motor/turbo wise is still up on the air. i am def going non vtec. already have the p8r head.

but right now  iam just focusing on getting a rolling chasis wired up obd1 and a sustainable fuel system

700hp non vtec. I like 

[Joseph Davis]

Used A1000.  Be intelligent about sourcing your fuel line or it'll break you.  Get FIC900's from Sewell.

You can get S400 flavors with T4 flanges for a VERY nice price, start looking around.

[jarebear667]

First off, what fuel? If E85, you're going to need about 2000cc's worth of injector. 1000's start to max out around 600-650 on E85. And that's with a capable pump setup.

But dual Bosch 044 pumps, your choice of injectors, an adjustable fpr capable of 100psi+ base pressure and some upgraded feed and return lines. That will be enough for your goals.

Why a gt40? With the various new turbos out, I don't see why not to run them. Look into Precision and some new BorgWarner stuff.

i was out of fuel on 1000's at 525 wheel on e85. 40 something base pressure.

[bigdaddyvtec]

First off, what fuel? If E85, you're going to need about 2000cc's worth of injector. 1000's start to max out around 600-650 on E85. And that's with a capable pump setup.

But dual Bosch 044 pumps, your choice of injectors, an adjustable fpr capable of 100psi+ base pressure and some upgraded feed and return lines. That will be enough for your goals.

Why a gt40? With the various new turbos out, I don't see why not to run them. Look into Precision and some new BorgWarner stuff.

i was out of fuel on 1000's at 525 wheel on e85. 40 something base pressure.

1000s (precisions) can be ran to about 60 PSI base. Would have gotten you VERY close to 600

[d112crzy]

I think a 6262 would be good on this motor. If not, then I'm sure any 67mm turbo will do the job.

[Joseph Davis]

First off, what fuel? If E85, you're going to need about 2000cc's worth of injector. 1000's start to max out around 600-650 on E85. And that's with a capable pump setup.

But dual Bosch 044 pumps, your choice of injectors, an adjustable fpr capable of 100psi+ base pressure and some upgraded feed and return lines. That will be enough for your goals.

Why a gt40? With the various new turbos out, I don't see why not to run them. Look into Precision and some new BorgWarner stuff.

i was out of fuel on 1000's at 525 wheel on e85. 40 something base pressure.

1000s (precisions) can be ran to about 60 PSI base. Would have gotten you VERY close to 600

You can run them at 40 psi base and get the same peak power out of them.

[bigdaddyvtec]

First off, what fuel? If E85, you're going to need about 2000cc's worth of injector. 1000's start to max out around 600-650 on E85. And that's with a capable pump setup.

But dual Bosch 044 pumps, your choice of injectors, an adjustable fpr capable of 100psi+ base pressure and some upgraded feed and return lines. That will be enough for your goals.

Why a gt40? With the various new turbos out, I don't see why not to run them. Look into Precision and some new BorgWarner stuff.

i was out of fuel on 1000's at 525 wheel on e85. 40 something base pressure.

1000s (precisions) can be ran to about 60 PSI base. Would have gotten you VERY close to 600

You can run them at 40 psi base and get the same peak power out of them.

I was able to make more power on the 17 PSI bump... Just sayon, dyno dont lie son

[Joseph Davis]

First off, what fuel? If E85, you're going to need about 2000cc's worth of injector. 1000's start to max out around 600-650 on E85. And that's with a capable pump setup.

But dual Bosch 044 pumps, your choice of injectors, an adjustable fpr capable of 100psi+ base pressure and some upgraded feed and return lines. That will be enough for your goals.

Why a gt40? With the various new turbos out, I don't see why not to run them. Look into Precision and some new BorgWarner stuff.

i was out of fuel on 1000's at 525 wheel on e85. 40 something base pressure.

1000s (precisions) can be ran to about 60 PSI base. Would have gotten you VERY close to 600

You can run them at 40 psi base and get the same peak power out of them.

I was able to make more power on the 17 PSI bump... Just sayon, dyno dont lie son

Maybe you got lucky, because going from 40 to 60 psi base netted exactly no peak gains on the dyno @ low 700 whp.  It just required me to completely retune the fuel maps.

Car had A1000, big power and ground wiring run to it, and -8 feed line.  Maybe there's some subtle quirk that isn't readily obvious in one of these setups, but I'm not seeing it offhand.   

[bigdaddyvtec]

I agree i got a lil lucky, but it really didnt allow for MUCH power at all thy were definately close to DONE... , and as you are aware, I was right at the point to where I was experiencing EXACTLY what youre talking about with regards to the increased base actually causing the entire map out of boost to go lean (when turning it up above 57 ish PSI)due to a shitty injector core and having to fuck with it... Thats not mentioning how rich I had to idle them to get it not to lean pop.


hence uncle toms hookup and your baldnoggin/hotrex shipping of the 4 BAR I should have early next week.


 

[Joseph Davis]

the 4 BAR I should have early next week.

LOL, you really think I shipped that?

[crxvtec91]

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2726790

I'm sure this link will be censored, but it's your answer.

FUCK you this is rhmt we dont censor shit unless its gay or we want to miss with someone

[bigdaddyvtec]

the 4 BAR I should have early next week.

LOL, you really think I shipped that?

Si

[LS1pwNzJ00]

You should try and make 550-6 before attempting to hit 7. 

[SQ is the SQUAD]

You should try and make 550-6 before attempting to hit 7. 

shut up slant eye


anyways, i went and picked up a brand new fuel tank i had at my moms house. looking at some sump kits on jegs, summit and ebay. i seen them in between 45-70 shipped.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Fuel-Tank-Sump-1-2-in-3-8-in-NPT-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2ead37c58aQQitemZ200474609034QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories


i want to have the pump sumped and start sourcing out some line then get the pump, rail and regulator.

i think i might go with the a1000. can someone link me up to the bosch dual set up.

[narfdanarf]

I like my dual bosch's, but they are pretty loud.  I can hear them over the sound of my 4" open downpipe while cruising down the highway.  2nd thing: build your own sump with $4 worth of spare stainless and weld the appropriate amount of bungs onto it.  Saves you from having to buy those gay npt-AN adapters, and you can customize it to fit your tank.  The sump in your link looks like it would be a bitch to put on because of how wide it is.  Stock gas tank is not flat!

[SQ is the SQUAD]

yeah, i might just have someone local sump it for me. i was looing at the ridges on the bottom of the tank. i dont have a welder so i cant really do it my self. if i go with the a1000 pump will i need to weld 2 -10am bungs on a custom sump?

[narfdanarf]

I don't see why you'd need more than 1, and realistically -8an would probably be more than enough. 

[SQ is the SQUAD]

i really dont know nothing thats why i am asking. all the other sumps ive seen have two. i figured they where for dual pumps. ill go with the -10 just to be on the safe side.

[chris]

I hope you have a shed full of transmissions!

[bigdaddyvtec]

I predict fail....  Its pretty silly that people just go straight for something like 700....  ANYONE can make 550-6 ... pretty reliably, but to get to 7 (and have the car stay in one piece een for a minute) takes another level of considerations....  Regardless of chassis

[SQ is the SQUAD]

ok, like said anyone can make 500, so why would i shoot for 500, then have to re do half my shit cuz its inadiqute for 700? i am talking about a fueling system that can hold up to 700 for gods sake.

i am not saying i am going to crak her up and hit 700 right out the gate. i just want to put together a system capable of handling such power. is that a bad thing?

[Joseph Davis]

Some thoughts.

I've hit knock limit before 700 on Torco 110.  General consensus in my circle is that it's a crap fuel, just keep your eyes open when turning up the wick.

Also, why the hell do you have to weld on the goddamn tank, or worry if the bottom of said tank is smooth?  Clean it, cut it, slather the sump flange with gas tank repair sealant, pop rivet that bith in place.  Retain stock hanger so your gas gauge works, profit.

[LS1pwNzJ00]

I predict fail....  Its pretty silly that people just go straight for something like 700....  ANYONE can make 550-6 ... pretty reliably, but to get to 7 (and have the car stay in one piece een for a minute) takes another level of considerations....  Regardless of chassis

Fatman is right you dirty cottonpickin coon.  Listen to the fat man, he knows what hes talking about.  Stupid nigGER FUCKER YOUl.

[bigdaddyvtec]

ok, like said anyone can make 500, so why would i shoot for 500, then have to re do half my shit cuz its inadiqute for 700? i am talking about a fueling system that can hold up to 700 for gods sake.

i am not saying i am going to crak her up and hit 700 right out the gate. i just want to put together a system capable of handling such power. is that a bad thing?

I don't think you have ANY idea of what you're getting yourself into with the goal you have implied you are aiming for.Its alot more than just having fuel for a huge turbo....

[crxvtec91]

ok, like said anyone can make 500, so why would i shoot for 500, then have to re do half my shit cuz its inadiqute for 700? i am talking about a fueling system that can hold up to 700 for gods sake.

i am not saying i am going to crak her up and hit 700 right out the gate. i just want to put together a system capable of handling such power. is that a bad thing?

I don't think you have ANY idea of what you're getting yourself into with the goal you have implied you are aiming for.Its alot more than just having fuel for a huge turbo....

I just hear the sound of trans dieing

[SQ is the SQUAD]

ok, like said anyone can make 500, so why would i shoot for 500, then have to re do half my shit cuz its inadiqute for 700? i am talking about a fueling system that can hold up to 700 for gods sake.

i am not saying i am going to crak her up and hit 700 right out the gate. i just want to put together a system capable of handling such power. is that a bad thing?

I don't think you have ANY idea of what you're getting yourself into with the goal you have implied you are aiming for.Its alot more than just having fuel for a huge turbo....

the problem is your first three words. i have lots of ideas, and i am setting a goal and shooting for it. there are at least 4 700+ whp civc in my neighborhood alone. i know alot of what goes into it. this isent my first build. ill admit, i dont to too much turbo shit. it may of been out of your grasp to get to 700, trust me i got this

scotti, shut up you slant eye gook whore bitch ass trick mothe rfucker. wtf have u ever built me worth spitting on faggot. go back and finish trolling gd