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Too good to be true?
« on: June 29, 2010, 01:36:54 PM »

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PFS-71240/

5-wire WBo2 sensor for $18.95. Uses the GM style plug that AEM and PLX now use. I'm trying to confirm if the pin positions are the same between plugs. i have a VW style sensor, but PLX apparently only sends harnessses for those new connector types. The pin contacts are the same part though, so I'm trying to just swap the connector housing over. If that ends up not working, I may just have to sell off the VW sensor and pick up one of these.

I think the word on these is spreading slowly across the forums, so god knows they won't be this cheap for long.
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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2010, 01:51:15 PM »

I'm trying to stock up.  ;D

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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2010, 02:39:06 PM »

I'm pretty sure the latest bodystyle Sentra Spec-V uses that sensor, too.

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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2010, 02:45:51 PM »

The more newer cars use wb the cheaper there gonna get.
Its like buying ford or chevy brakes.
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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2010, 11:10:21 PM »

tits good find im gunna hack one of these up to
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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2010, 11:55:40 PM »

Just make sure you use the identifying resistor in whatever form you use. Your best bet is to take the connector & wires off a bad sensor and solder them on.

The little piggyback compartment you see on the connector (in that pic) is where they have a laser-cut resistor. IIRC the resistor is between that 6th pin and ground.
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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2010, 12:05:15 AM »

I want to make sure i'm reading this correctly.

These sensors are pnp for the aem and plx.  AND they can be rewired to be used with my LM1. 

Sounds like a deal to me.
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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2010, 12:06:17 AM »

You're going to take the custom to that sensor calibration resistor and put it onto another one and ASSume it will work correctly?

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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2010, 01:13:05 AM »

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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2010, 08:37:29 AM »

Solution:  Make your WB cable have plug ends for both types of sensors.
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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2010, 10:29:48 AM »

Solution:  Make your WB cable have plug ends for both types of sensors.

Logic so plainly obvious (if not to everyone) that it's stale.

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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2010, 10:39:14 AM »

Common sense is not common.
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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2010, 10:58:22 AM »

As far as changing your controller's connector...good luck finding the right connector. An "oem" end will end up being $30-60 for the plastic, seals, and pins. Then you have to hope you crimp & seal it correctly. Common knowledge is that 98% of the population can't wire for shit. 2/3 of those that can have the money & brains to simply buy the correct part.


From what I see here, the sensor itself will be compatable. The normal sensor people get is a 7057. The sensor listed appears to be a 7200, note the extra holes. Both are LSU 4.2 sensors. FYI it seems that Autopartsdealer carries it also, and that list price is still decent when stores start to carry it.


You're going to take the custom to that sensor calibration resistor and put it onto another one and ASSume it will work correctly?

Well if the controller has it's own free-air calibration, then it won't matter. I'd imagine they're the same physical size between all connectors, and you could swap them between connectors. Worst-case is you measure it (3-300 ohms), take a tiny 500 ohm multi-turn trimmer pot, then wire it in with the proper value.

Search for "RCal", then read the paragraph below it:
http://wbo2.com/lsu/lsuworks.htm

Page 7:
http://www.vespalabs.org/@api/deki/files/33/=wbo2_2j1.pdf

Page 2:
http://www.anadigelec.com/manuals/wo2a1installation.pdf






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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2010, 11:58:04 AM »

As far as changing your controller's connector...good luck finding the right connector. An "oem" end will end up being $30-60 for the plastic, seals, and pins.

Or snip snip at the junkyard for $5-10.  They come on GM, Nissan, and I guarantee others.

I know the VW/Audi 7057 connectors cost a fraction of what you've stated, and am willing to be the "rectangle" style plug is similar.  Ballenger probably carries them at an OK price, or Mouser, etc.


Then you have to hope you crimp & seal it correctly. Common knowledge is that 98% of the population can't wire for shit. 2/3 of those that can have the money & brains to simply buy the correct part.

This is not a new problem since tail lights became standard equipment on the horseless carriage, and not a concern to anyone who can correctly wipe their ass.  This is not a forum for fools.   Irrelevant.


You're going to take the custom to that sensor calibration resistor and put it onto another one and ASSume it will work correctly?

Well if the controller has it's own free-air calibration, then it won't matter.

Not everyone does free air recals like Innovate, and I'll neither purchase nor endorse another Gargano wideband.  So, if you are the 15% of the market with an Innovate (or the 15.5% of the market with Innovate *or* TE) you can do free air recals, but everyone else is screwed because you find it too difficult to get the correct plug for the sensor to plug into, and would rather hack on the sensor wiring itself.

Gotcha.

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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2010, 12:04:10 PM »

Alan To's janx do free air calibrations nucka!
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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2010, 12:07:23 PM »

O RLY?

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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2010, 12:07:54 PM »

The only WB O2 even worth talking about..
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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2010, 12:40:25 PM »

http://www.d-series.org/forums/engine-management/131508-wideband-o2-sensor-18-95-could-replacement-uego.html

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This page should have what you need. LSU Connectors and Wiring
the sensor you have is the 7200 or 7057 sensor. The first table on the
page has the pinout.

Thank you,

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Steven Edgecomb just filled in your find a location form. They're
location is:
My question is about product number 71240, which is your wideband o2
sensor. Could you send me a pin out of each wire in the harness, as in
which color goes where in the harness connector(and its function). My
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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2010, 12:53:11 PM »

Came straight from the manufacturer that the sensor the OP posed is the LSU 4.2 sensor, therefore compatible with most wideband controllers.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2010, 01:42:08 PM by Joseph Davis »
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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2010, 01:21:13 PM »

If you have a wb controller with a different connector, just pick up the correct connector housing from ballenger like JD stated.

Or pick up both connectors and build an adapter harness for still less $ than a new vw sensor.

The harness pins are kind of a pain in the ass to remove, but a pair of paperclips will do it well enough. They are in fact a pin to pin swap- move pin1 of the vw housing to pin1 of the square housing, etc.
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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2010, 04:35:00 PM »

post write up niggas, ill put one on order
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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2010, 07:18:24 PM »

http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/product_info.php/cPath/103_108/products_id/1701 ($9.99)

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http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/product_info.php/cPath/103_108/products_id/695 ($12.99)

= plug and play.

ballenger's shipping sucks balls, but they're the only ones who have both connectors, and they're pretty cheap.
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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2010, 07:35:55 PM »

Be cheapass
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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2010, 09:32:53 AM »

Hello to everyone!

I'm the person who first spotted this on a local forum then posted it on D-series.org.
The sensor was on back order from summit racing but some people still got orders in before they jacked the rate up on them. Another member on DSO found them for $17.34 from autopartsdealer.com That lasted a few days then their stock ran out and the price was jacked way up. I have found one last site with a below $20 retail, I wont let the cat out of the bag just yet so people can get in on the deal. If you look you'll find the site.

As of right now it seems the sensor that is selling for under $20 is the 7057 with a type "A" connector like on the older PLX, the LC-1 and the LM-1 controllers.
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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2010, 10:36:21 AM »

Fuck off faggot where is your porn at, if your not going to post a link then fuck yourself in the ass with a spiked bat
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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2010, 06:30:01 PM »

Fuck off faggot where is your porn at, if your not going to post a link then fuck yourself in the ass with a spiked bat

All you had to do is a SIMPLE google search and you would of found it, notice I said would of? If it weren't for me no one would of got this deal. Here is the post from my local forum Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:53 am I'm the one who took the time to find the part and send emails to confirm it was in fact a Bosch LSU 4.2 sensor.


edit: no porn in this forum, thanks
« Last Edit: August 20, 2010, 08:47:49 AM by Joseph Davis »
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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2010, 06:36:34 PM »

Need to be a member of ohiohondas to see that link.

Post up the info, I'd like to pick up a few of the new connector type.
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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2010, 08:11:39 PM »

Fuck off faggot where is your porn at, if your not going to post a link then fuck yourself in the ass with a spiked bat

Back off, this n00b needs little/no hazing. His tech addition to the site is his porn. And is actually more welcome than boobs. I know, that almost sounds blasphemous. But anyone and everyone here (well most) value REAL tech over some google'd tits anyday. Personal type porn doesn't fall into this categorization.
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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2010, 09:38:26 PM »

I've deleted his past posts because he doesn't know what he's talking about.  I'm pretty disinterested on the subject, just don't post stupid shit in, or try to bring your n00b hazing, to my forum.

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Re: Too good to be true?
« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2010, 01:24:34 PM »

why it say $103? dunno I'm prob a idiot
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