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[LS1pwNzJ00]

My friend has a neon, its a early 90's model.  For some reason its fucking up.  When you turn engine on it will run and idle for about 10-20 seconds and then automatically cut off, or if you tap the throttle while its idling it will die too.  It takes a few cranks for it to even begin to fire up and start.  There are no check engine lights going.  What the fuck is it? Im thinking it may be a clogged fuel filter or a fucked up fuel pump. 

[SgtB]

Go buy a gallon of gas and some matches.

[LS1pwNzJ00]

agreed.

[Joseph Davis]

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[onlyflash944]

Go buy a gallon of gas and some matches.

depends on if you enjoy seeing explosions more, or if you would rather have the 200 bucks the scrapper would give for it

[chris]

Be happy that old of a neon ran for as long as it did. Sell it to the scrap metal place for 200 bucks and go buy a 89 civic from a mexican in east oakland.

[SloS13]

My friend has a neon, its a early 90's model.  For some reason its fucking up.

It's an early 90's model neon.  That is the reason.

[Ntrain2k]

Do the key dance and see if it has any codes stored.

[ironcrx]

Be happy that old of a neon ran for as long as it did. Sell it to the scrap metal place for 200 bucks and go buy a 89 civic from a mexican in east oakland.

[LS1pwNzJ00]

Do the key dance and see if it has any codes stored.

explain said 'key dance'

[Ntrain2k]

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070731120015AAVl8pE

[HiProfile]

Do the key dance and see if it has any codes stored.

Wow I alsmot forgot about that. I had a Sundance that was a heaping pile. Only fun I could have with it was launching it off loading ramps and neutral drops around tight corners.




Sounds like fuel is the issue. Obviously you know if you get no flow from your fuel pump, it has just enough to start up. If you have a massive air leak after the MAF (or a bad MAF), if will also be starved for fuel.

[t_cel_t]

yeah i was gonna say maf or map (not sure what they meter air with)

[Ntrain2k]

It's a speed density car.

FYI, I've seen dodges have a bad map sensor and it not store a code.

[Towdogg]

Its a pile of shit!  JUNK IT!

[LS1pwNzJ00]

I put a new fuel pump in it, a new fuel filter, it has plenty of fuel pressure now, it has new spark plugs and there is spark, the compression was a solid 180 across, there is no MAF on this car, only a map sensor.  When i crank it, it just turns over and it'll pop and maybe fire a cylinder here or there but will not run, not even for a short moment like it did before.  I jumped it using another car and it stil does the same thing.  I tried doing the key turn thing to check codes and no CEL comes on, the CEL doesnt even come on while trying to start the car? WTF man, there is compression, spark, and fuel.  I even took the fuel rail off and watched the injectors squirt fuel, i took the spark plug out and stick it in the spark plug wire and watched it make spark, compression was solid across WHAT THE FUCK, FUCK YOU DIAMLER CHRYSLER FUCK YOU GM SHITS ALL OVER YOU AND RAPES YOUR CHILDREN.

[SgtB]

Timing? Bad gas?

[Hotrodlincoln]

Timing belt

[LS1pwNzJ00]

timing belt is straight, car was running about a month ago, then it just shut off out of nowhere.  I put new gas in it so that isnt the problem.

[Towdogg]

Put some gas inside.....   Light match!   

[Ntrain2k]

timing belt is straight, car was running about a month ago, then it just shut off out of nowhere.  I put new gas in it so that isnt the problem.

Are the timing marks lined up?

It might have jumped time.

[LS1pwNzJ00]

timing belt is straight, car was running about a month ago, then it just shut off out of nowhere.  I put new gas in it so that isnt the problem.

Are the timing marks lined up?

It might have jumped time.

Hmm i didnt check that, i'll check it tmmrw.  This isnt my car, its my friends car and its about 45 min away from me.

[Hotrodlincoln]

Timing belt

timing belt is straight, car was running about a month ago, then it just shut off out of nowhere.  I put new gas in it so that isnt the problem.

Are the timing marks lined up?

It might have jumped time.

Hmm i didnt check that, i'll check it tmmrw.  This isnt my car, its my friends car and its about 45 min away from me.

[LS1pwNzJ00]

before i did the fuel pump, when sometimes it would turn on and idle for a moment, it had a normal idle, when it jumps a tooth doesn't it usually surge?

[Ntrain2k]

before i did the fuel pump, when sometimes it would turn on and idle for a moment, it had a normal idle, when it jumps a tooth doesn't it usually surge?

It depends on how far it jumped.

Try picking up another map from the JY for it.

They go bad a lot without throwing codes.

[dueyx99]

try a known good crank sensor, crank sensor can fail and throw no code, usually they crack inside the block, looks fine from outisde

[Joseph Davis]

180 psi is 9.5:1 CR compression, without mechanical timing being off.

Sir, was the spark yellow or blue?  Have you changed the plugs yet?

[LS1pwNzJ00]

these plugs are new, although they look like they got a bit fouled from being cranked so much, i cleaned them off with a brush to no avail

[highroller54]

i cleaned them off with a brush to no avail

lol, you know that doesn't work 

[2slow]

Im pretty sure the standard operating proceedure for dealing with a broke down neon from the nineties is to take it to the scrap yard and tell them their scale is off a couple hundred pounds