Topic: Our cutting shop - starting to take shape (Read 80123 times)

PhilStubbs · « **Reply #180 on:** April 06, 2013, 12:14:26 PM »

Oh yea, for a business it's worth it easily. But for broke ass me that's a huge amount of money for just making something work for you.

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #181 on:** April 06, 2013, 12:42:03 PM »

Problem is if you don't set everything up correctly at first, it will cost you so much more down the line to tear down / stop production / move equipment / remodel. In my first building, I had to spread similiar costs across almost a year because I was so broke just buying the building to begin with and I had to work in those unfinished conditions just to keep paying the contractors. Those were back in the days when it was me, myself and I doing everything. Not fun.

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #182 on:** April 06, 2013, 12:49:28 PM »

Floor guy is pretty fast. Did that room in about an hour.

Stuff floats on special mats that go under it.

PhilStubbs · « **Reply #183 on:** April 06, 2013, 03:00:47 PM »

I'm thinking about doing my house with that stuff eventually.

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #184 on:** April 19, 2013, 08:34:05 PM »

Some finished office pics:

ratcityrex · « **Reply #185 on:** April 19, 2013, 10:33:57 PM »

Fuck yeah. Looks great!

PhilStubbs · « **Reply #186 on:** April 20, 2013, 12:02:23 AM »

Looks aesome

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #187 on:** April 20, 2013, 01:39:56 PM »

Next week we put in the two rear door frames and finish cutting out the back walls. Both frames get welding inspected on monday. They are massive 7x5 upper beam, with 7x3 side beams, 0.3125" wall. What's really insane is to meet seismic code, even after installing these beams in the wall, we have to build a 2x4 wall in front of the back wall and tie it into the header to meet code.

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #188 on:** April 24, 2013, 01:53:24 PM »

Fun times. (NOT)

Cut

Bust it out

Frame. Notice big ass bolts sticking out of it to be grouted in. PITA

Not easy to get into place with bolts sticking up out of top!

Front office getting closer to 100%

2" Foam board insulation going into rafter before sheet rock. Notice they had to drill all the beams for cross-flow.

PhilStubbs · « **Reply #189 on:** April 24, 2013, 03:09:32 PM »

You do nice work sir

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #190 on:** April 25, 2013, 01:57:52 PM »

Outside of the telling them what to do, design and engineering, I take no credit. My guys are doing all this work. We are about 2 months into this building now, averaging about 2 of my guys per day (the last two weeks) plus a family member who is a paint contractor.

Pouring the support/lock column. This grouts the wall to the beams over those bolts we welded to the uprights.

Sealing the old block wall. Getting ready to strip/insulate/sheet. This room is getting masonite panels glued down over the sheet rock so we have a water proof surface. It's like dry erase board and waterjets make a major mess.

ratcityrex · « **Reply #191 on:** April 25, 2013, 04:44:09 PM »

sweet! I take it you haven't looked to see how much you've spent? I noticed you stopped doing the running tab thing....lol

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #192 on:** April 25, 2013, 04:46:41 PM »

I ended up buying a 4000sq foot building down the block for my wife's new kid play business, so I'm running multiple contractors in both buildings right now, so I need to sort the receipts so I'm not counting those costs as ours. It's .. a lot though. Probably more then I want to think about right now.

PhilStubbs · « **Reply #193 on:** April 25, 2013, 06:44:29 PM »

Should pay off though, plus if none of it is borrowed still, no interest to payback.

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #194 on:** April 25, 2013, 08:43:17 PM »

Nope. No loans, no interest, no nothing. I don't mind risking my money, but borrowed money? Yikes.

highroller54 · « **Reply #195 on:** April 26, 2013, 10:59:26 PM »

That's looking fucking tits. What flooring is that?

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #196 on:** April 27, 2013, 01:18:05 AM »

That is a compressed stranded bamboo. It's 5/8" thick, and it's a solid material all the way through the board. So it can be resurfaced over and over again. It's a floated floor so it's glued together and set of a special mat. The stranded bambo is super tough compared to regular hard woods and about twice as tough as regular directional bamboo floors. It was $3.80/ft + $0.80/ft pad + install. So 1200 ft was like $8k installed.

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #197 on:** April 27, 2013, 02:04:52 AM »

Door frame is all done. All concreted/grouted in. We've got it sheeted in until the doors arrive.

This was a bitch. We had to pull it with the forklift to take out the little bit of twist it got in it during fabrication. So last night our toyota forklift was strapped to the top left corner of the door all night long as it curerd.

All the walls sealed. Camera and electrical pre-wire is all done. All the beams are cross drilled for flow. All new insulation almost completed. We are going to start on the shear wall that abuts the back CMU wall for the retarded seismic requirements next.

highroller54 · « **Reply #198 on:** April 27, 2013, 11:38:11 AM »

Quote from: mandrel-bends on April 27, 2013, 01:18:05 AM

That is a compressed stranded bamboo. It's 5/8" thick, and it's a solid material all the way through the board. So it can be resurfaced over and over again. It's a floated floor so it's glued together and set of a special mat. The stranded bambo is super tough compared to regular hard woods and about twice as tough as regular directional bamboo floors. It was $3.80/ft + $0.80/ft pad + install. So 1200 ft was like $8k installed.

Nice!!!

ratcityrex · « **Reply #199 on:** April 27, 2013, 11:56:40 AM »

Looks amazing. All I saw when u started was a shit pile of a 1970's building. Looks great man. Keep up the good work.

PhilStubbs · « **Reply #200 on:** April 27, 2013, 12:04:19 PM »

Any plans for the exterior? May not be much of an issue though, you probably don't get many walk customers I'm sure

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #201 on:** April 27, 2013, 12:41:45 PM »

We get 6-10 pickup orders a day. It's not a lot in comparison to what we ship, but I'm not going to half ass any aspect of this.

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #202 on:** May 01, 2013, 01:39:27 PM »

Insulation / Vapor Barrier Going up (R13 per inch). These back walls are getting foam boarded, sheet rocked, then covered in masonite (dry erase material), so they can be hosed down. Waterjets ruin sheet rock.

Back Seismic wall tied into Beam

Backwall is now effectively 14" thick from inside to out thanks to this stupid engineered wall.

PhilStubbs · « **Reply #203 on:** May 01, 2013, 03:14:45 PM »

Could you actually use the walls as dry erase if you wanted? That gives me some ideas

Passenger · « **Reply #204 on:** May 02, 2013, 01:26:18 PM »

Wow that is a lot of work. Its looking great but don't envy all the setup work you are doing at all!

I'm sure you will absolutely love it when done though. Its always worth going the extra mile.

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #205 on:** May 06, 2013, 08:44:56 PM »

Definitely a lot of work, and a lot of money. Just starting to go over budget now.

I was expecting to be finished mid month. I think we will go another full month though.

For now, we are just buttoning up the ceiling and the back wall.

Notice the back wall is sheated with plywood. This is part of the engineering that relates to the seismic stuff.

If you've got kids in this area, you might checkout the wife's kid playland facebook page. We are just in the demo stage on her building right now, but I've submitted all the plans to the city friday for use change. Her website that takes you to the facebook page with pics:

http://www.playlandfamilyfun.com

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #206 on:** May 17, 2013, 11:45:48 AM »

Damn, thats a lot of hard work. Office looks tits, can't wait to see the mostly finished shop space populated with machinery.

92CXyD · « **Reply #207 on:** May 17, 2013, 12:03:28 PM »

Quote from: Joseph Davis on May 17, 2013, 11:45:48 AM

Damn, thats a lot of hard work. Office looks tits, can't wait to see the mostly finished shop space populated with machinery.

I'm sure you are not alone, Adam is probably stressing out at least a little with all the money he has spent.

But once everything done, he'll be paying construction bills off for a while.

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #208 on:** May 17, 2013, 11:43:55 PM »

I'm paying cash for everything as I go... Which is why doors and electrical service isn't in yet. Thats about 40k cash that i was saving for last out of necessity. It's a little tricky running the cash flow for the main biz which pays cash for all materials plus the cash outlays for all of the remodel.. Construction loans and credit cards would make this easier but I'm averse to credit in general.

Current progress: The second door frame is cut and in the wall. The rear shop is basically done. All painted, lights hung. The right half is now getting insulated and sheeted. I'm a bit behind in pics but I've had a busy couple weeks. Had to finish my bachelors in electrical engineering to get full enrollment in MBA program. So I graduated on Sunday ... and been trying to catch up on everything as I got slammed with senior design project and finals.

My wife's building is also taking a lot of design time right now. I'm doing the architectural work in conjunction with a structural engineer which is proving to be a exercise in futility as we're basically having to design a building within her building that meets seismic code. Not fun.

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #209 on:** May 18, 2013, 07:05:05 PM »

These were images from the last week or so.

Back shop ceiling done.

Right side shop, mid wall demo.

Right side, Back door #2 going in. 12x10 door frame.

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