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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1140 on: May 20, 2010, 01:09:09 PM »

Low CR turbo engines are even friendlier, lots more clearance in the chamber.  The only time I worry about the chamber design is when some kid wants a 13.5:1 pumpgas motor - the GSR head will support it even though it's not a great idea without a low cam that has overlap to bleed off excess pressure/suction, whereas the B16 head just pings semi-uncontrollably below 3000.

The GSR head has a different IM flange, and the intake ports are more of an easy angled entry so you can see the backs of the intake valves.  Valve spacing/angle is identical, and the valves themselves are identical.  Stock for stock, there are multiple flowbench charts comparing B16 to GSR on the internet and they are the same line when overlapped.  Pretty sure "Alaniz stock head comparison" fed to Google Images would turn what you want to see up.

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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1141 on: May 20, 2010, 01:11:07 PM »

Here we go, intake side anyway:



I haven't compared side by side or measured, but my gut feeling is a B16 exhaust port is a GSR exhaust port.

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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1142 on: May 20, 2010, 01:56:57 PM »

Dave we nigger rigged a b16 IM onto a b18 head on Bnorth's car. It is really pretty straight forward, going that way, I assume the same in reverse.
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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1143 on: May 21, 2010, 03:11:20 PM »

i have a b16 intake you can use, if you want, its just stock though, so no fun there....
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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1144 on: May 21, 2010, 05:47:32 PM »

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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1145 on: May 21, 2010, 10:33:44 PM »

Dave we nigger rigged a b16 IM onto a b18 head on Bnorth's car. It is really pretty straight forward, going that way, I assume the same in reverse.
Other way around. I put Levis old B18c mani on my b16 head. It was easy cause S2 uses the same flange casting just have to drill the new hole pattern on it.
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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1146 on: May 22, 2010, 11:26:29 AM »

That's a bad idea.  Angle of entry between GSR and B16/ITR is different, you end up with a sudden change in port direction.

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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1147 on: May 22, 2010, 11:40:44 AM »

If they use the same flange casting, it makes me wonder if they use the same runner casting. So it may be unoptimized for one head, probably the gsr.
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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1148 on: May 22, 2010, 11:43:37 AM »

The early S2/BLOX casting was an ITR clone, and it fit incorrectl on the GSR head.  S2 Pro uses different castings to correct this.

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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1149 on: May 22, 2010, 11:44:11 AM »

All of which is beside the fact, Levi's car needs a Vickie-X.

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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1150 on: May 23, 2010, 12:37:10 AM »

I have a couple lines on 2 heads. Just waiting on one to see if I buy it or not.
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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1151 on: May 23, 2010, 06:09:26 PM »

JD is right, needs a gsr w/ vic x

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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1152 on: May 24, 2010, 02:47:32 PM »

i have a good b16 head fs if you need one,i know its not a gsr but its better then nothing.
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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1153 on: June 08, 2010, 04:11:58 PM »

New head is purchased thanks to Passenger. Will be pulling the rest of the motor this weekend.

Waiting on injector clips from Tom
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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1154 on: June 09, 2010, 01:40:49 AM »

Dropped off the cams today to get measured. Noticed a few weird things in regards to wear on the cams, should be measured next week.
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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1155 on: June 09, 2010, 01:42:24 AM »

Dropped off the cams today to get measured. Noticed a few weird things in regards to wear on the cams, should be measured next week.

pics of lobes, and rockers plz.....  What oil is he running
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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1156 on: June 09, 2010, 11:08:50 AM »

Dropped off the cams today to get measured. Noticed a few weird things in regards to wear on the cams, should be measured next week.

pics of lobes, and rockers plz.....  What oil is he running

If I am not mistaken he is running royal purple.
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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1157 on: June 09, 2010, 11:32:50 AM »

hmmmmm dave take pics of the wear.i like 2 see
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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1158 on: June 09, 2010, 12:35:55 PM »

hmmmmm dave take pics of the wear.i like 2 see

I don't have the cams anymore, they are at Colt, I'll get them back next week along with measurements. Basically there is some chatter on a few of the exhaust lobes on the base circle, as well as some uneven wear on the ramp of the lobes (only wearing 50% of the width) in some areas. Haven't had a chance to look at rockers, but they will not be reused.

Tom, call me back bitch.
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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1159 on: June 09, 2010, 12:58:19 PM »

Levi needs to de gay the barney car and go with hype r cams...  The purp is a fine oile. I wouldnt change that...
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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1160 on: June 09, 2010, 01:12:24 PM »

hmmmmm dave take pics of the wear.i like 2 see

I don't have the cams anymore, they are at Colt, I'll get them back next week along with measurements. Basically there is some chatter on a few of the exhaust lobes on the base circle, as well as some uneven wear on the ramp of the lobes (only wearing 50% of the width) in some areas. Haven't had a chance to look at rockers, but they will not be reused.

Tom, call me back bitch.

I never got a call from you.
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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1161 on: June 09, 2010, 01:18:21 PM »

hmmmmm dave take pics of the wear.i like 2 see

I don't have the cams anymore, they are at Colt, I'll get them back next week along with measurements. Basically there is some chatter on a few of the exhaust lobes on the base circle, as well as some uneven wear on the ramp of the lobes (only wearing 50% of the width) in some areas. Haven't had a chance to look at rockers, but they will not be reused.

Tom, call me back bitch.

I never got a call from you.

Hmm, than yesterday afternoon someone in your area received a voice mail from me, that could possibly be taken as offensive :P PM your #, Levi must have given me the wrong one.
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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1162 on: June 09, 2010, 01:21:40 PM »

Faggot love.  :-*  I mean Toms not gay but Dave IS Canadian....
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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1163 on: June 09, 2010, 01:30:28 PM »

hmmmmm dave take pics of the wear.i like 2 see

I don't have the cams anymore, they are at Colt, I'll get them back next week along with measurements. Basically there is some chatter on a few of the exhaust lobes on the base circle, as well as some uneven wear on the ramp of the lobes (only wearing 50% of the width) in some areas. Haven't had a chance to look at rockers, but they will not be reused.

Tom, call me back bitch.

I never got a call from you.

Hmm, than yesterday afternoon someone in your area received a voice mail from me, that could possibly be taken as offensive :P PM your #, Levi must have given me the wrong one.

I am mistaken, i did have a missed call from a 604 number, ie you. and then reagan sent me a text message right after, i falsely thought it was him. 
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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1164 on: June 09, 2010, 03:13:48 PM »

Faggot love.  :-*  I mean Toms not gay but Dave IS Canadian....

I'm only half Canadian, so we'll just call it curious :P
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« Reply #1165 on: June 09, 2010, 03:20:19 PM »

At leat theres no popped collar pink shirt going on with a faux hawk... LOL
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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1166 on: June 09, 2010, 07:34:11 PM »

that cam was worn like that with the first head. I noticed the scarring there beforehand and thought it was abnormal.
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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1167 on: June 09, 2010, 07:42:27 PM »

that cam was worn like that with the first head. I noticed the scarring there beforehand and thought it was abnormal.

If you knew it was abnormal why did you use it? :-\

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« Reply #1168 on: June 09, 2010, 07:43:03 PM »

that cam was worn like that with the first head. I noticed the scarring there beforehand and thought it was abnormal.

If you knew it was abnormal why did you use it? :-\

It was shiny
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Re: UI's 703hp Purple beast - She is injured
« Reply #1169 on: June 09, 2010, 08:22:33 PM »

that cam was worn like that with the first head. I noticed the scarring there beforehand and thought it was abnormal.

No, there isn't any scaring, there has always been from what I can remember a small chip on one lobe. The wear I am talking about is just the parkerizing wearing, with the exception of chatter on a couple of the lobes... I kind of think that maybe that was always there, but just wasn't too noticeable initially as the parkerizing might have made it looks smooth? I can see how the cam could get the chatter marks on it from something being on the profile guide plate when they were grinding it, so it is possible. But I doubt it has any direct effect on the failure as the problem is on the base circle, the only corelation I see would be the lack of QC on the manufacturers end.
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