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Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« on: December 11, 2013, 03:01:19 PM »

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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2013, 03:41:00 PM »

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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2013, 04:20:56 PM »



From my understanding of what's available, hondata s300 with hondata's COP kit is going to be what you want. It's all meant to work together and seems to work as well as one could imagine on an oem ecu. Any other option worth doing will require a stand alone ems.

Maybe one day Dave Blundell will finish his kit, then you could use Neptune, or maybe even Crome. Hondata won't give Neptune the permission/info to use their kit without a boatload of money. That's been discussed on the hrtuning forum multiple times.
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2013, 12:29:06 AM »

There's a dude over on d series that is making a board to run cop with stock ecu. Already has a running version but wants to copyright and all that shit before he will do anything
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2013, 02:48:22 AM »

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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2013, 09:06:45 AM »

I can't imagine it's a very difficult thing to do with a small amount of electronics knowledge. The ecu already knows when to fire, you'd really just need something to point to 1-3-4-2 look, a tdc signal then repeat.
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2013, 11:07:13 AM »

I thought people had this on lock down already. I might say fuck the brake booster so I can still run a dizzy.
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2013, 01:34:36 PM »

What does a brake booster have to do with a distributor?

If you don't want a distributor then AEM EMS is your answer. Hondata still uses it just with a small billet cap. Aem just has a very small sensor in place of the distributor.
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2013, 01:37:39 PM »

What does a brake booster have to do with a distributor?


It is not going in a Honda chassis.
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2013, 01:39:45 PM »

What does a brake booster have to do with a distributor?


It is not going in a Honda chassis.

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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2013, 01:53:22 PM »

What does a brake booster have to do with a distributor?

everything lol
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2013, 05:39:29 PM »

If it's going into a mini then ditch the booster, you don't need it.
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2013, 11:58:30 PM »

Ditch boost. I would see if they make or fab a pedal with a diff ratio makes a difference in none power brakes
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2013, 09:02:00 AM »

Wilwood pedals are surprisingly affordable.
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2013, 11:03:10 AM »

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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2013, 11:39:28 AM »

What does a brake booster have to do with a distributor?

everything lol

Pullies & jackshaft. Pure win in my book.


Aside from different chassis swaps that need it gone, how many people really need it gone? In most cases it seems more like bling than anything. If you need it so you can open the gap to improve low-end or MPG's on a race car, you're doing it wrong.
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2013, 04:23:11 PM »



Pullies & jackshaft. Pure win in my book.

Well its Lhd and I'm bitching about the booster being in the way of the dizzy if that helps your mental picture.
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2013, 04:25:26 PM »

That doesn't make sense. How is the intake manifold less of a problem than the distributor?
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2013, 04:47:56 PM »

stock manifold wont fit, see itb basemap thread lol
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2013, 10:32:21 PM »

someone on the miata forums put a ford b3 in a miata for mpgs and used the stock dizzy ecu he used some kind of board to fire coil wasted spark really simply.


http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=441727&page=7

here is the page of what he did
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2014, 06:01:21 PM »

James Holy just said there are 3 COP options about to be available to the public that will run on the stock ecu, also meaning any stock ecu based EMS. One of them supposedly will work with the AEM EPS on the stock ecu. That is much smaller than the distributor
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2014, 07:22:22 PM »

There's a dude over on d series that is making a board to run cop with stock ecu. Already has a running version but wants to copyright and all that shit before he will do anything

Link me.  I'd love to pop his bubble.

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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2014, 08:24:47 PM »

mine is on the way JD. Will run with stock ecu or chipped variant. Ill put you in touch with him on Facebook as he is foreign and i cant read his name.
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2014, 08:29:56 PM »

mine is on the way JD. Will run with stock ecu or chipped variant. Ill put you in touch with him on Facebook as he is foreign and i cant read his name.

Are you talking about the guy Asia or Hungary?  :noel:

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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2014, 08:39:02 PM »

Sounds like the Hungarian guy. I couldnt begin to say his name either, but it kinda looks Asian to an ignorant American such as myself
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2014, 10:37:07 PM »

I Just run a home made coil plate, k series coils, a t1 cam trigger kit, a home made harness originally then switched to a chase harness and lastly an aem ems. If you go this route and can afford to spring for the v2 ems do so cause the hardware in the v1's can't handle high boost....ask me how I know... :'(
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2014, 07:53:34 AM »

I have the Hungarian COP kit on its way to me right now for testing. He doesn't have access to hondata and also wants it tested on Neptune. I can use a customers s300 ecu to test and I'm a Neptune dealer now, so...... Free COP for me!! Lol
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2014, 11:36:14 AM »

Keep us posted please!
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Re: Cheapest/best/simplest way for cop b series?
« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2014, 11:06:12 PM »

I bought a COP box from a dude a few years ago.  There are people out there making them. 

I would tell you who it was, but I was super dissatisfied with the transaction, so fuck that dick head.
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