so wtf jd, you get my hopes up and then crush them by not posting back up?? lol 
This thread wasn't showing up in my watched topics list?
Anyway you posted a thousand logs and only one calibration which is worthless when i don't know what base you're tuning from.
Im not a fan of Calvin and therefore not a fan of ectune. To me its just Crome with sugar on top. Even most of the menus have the same feel. Boost tools, fuel tools, its all there, just with a facelift. What gets me is he straight up told me one of his goals was to keep mulitple car tuning in the hands of shops and away from small time guys like most of us here. Most honda owners dont need or cant afford shop rates for tuning. Shit, they can barely afford the setup they need tuned.
Single car license is a ripoff considering the investment in equipment it requires. I would totally go Hondata for a little bit more $$ and then you know its going to WORK 
OK, you're a fucking idiot buddy. eCtune is very much not Crome with sugar on top, the cost of a single user version of eCtune is the same as a single user Crome Pro and it's far and away better with no bullshit. Lastly, if you are unaware with the large, glaring issues in ALL of Hondata's offerings so far I really don't know what to say? There are multiple back to back tunes on Hondata vs eCtune where the eCtune car always made better power. Welcome to correct ignition control.
Crome has some issues but if you check the ectune forums its full of bugs too. There were even a few major updates which made previous tunes obsolete, requiring a customer to do a retune. I bet the shops did that for free........
Uh, it's super not hard to open new calibration, select the codebase the previous tune was done on, and then import your calibration into it. No retune required!
I can provide you with several referrences where I fucked up on my end and erased the customer's chip so I didn't know what code they were tuned on, or the newer code had features they wanted, where I was "forced" to redo the tune. It takes about five minutes since the fuel map's scaling is already correct from the initial tune, you just play with injector offset until the car idles at the right AFR and WOW there's your import into the new code base. Such an investment in my time! You can see why I charged every last one of them zero dollars.
Most of the people pushing ectune are also authorized ectune tuners :/
And what of it? I'll tune a car on Crome if the customer requests AND it's not a turbo SOHC, but I don't drop my per car fee off of the tune price since Crome is clumsy and takes me longer. I also like the tune being locked to the chip so the customer can't meddle with it, as 75% of people bitching about a tuner behind his back are the ones who caused their own problems fucking around with the tune. All my cars that run 6's and 7's in the 1/8th are cars I tuned who go off without wideband or their own tuning gear and drive their car for YEARS. Bottom line, eCtune makes me look good. I was kicked a copy of it, used it twice, and never used Crome again. Welcome to excellence.
Some users dont like Crome because it can be difficult to get the wideband data into the laptop accurately. I use a tunertee and it pretty much MADE Crome. Lm-1 data into crome, ecu data into logworks similar to the innovate plugin but fast and reliable. Everything else including the innovate serial linkup in ectune relies on windows to process the data, while this setup combines it before it gets to the laptop. Ectune cant even be used in conjunction with logworks since it requires exclusive use of the serial port. Logworks is a very powerful tool if you've never used it before.
OK, you are clueless about ground offsets. May I suggest a entry level course into DC circuits? Unless the vehicle wiring harness is complete shit, in which case the tune will be shit regardless of how you go about logging, there's nothing wrong with tuning via an analog wideband input to the ECU.
Secondly, Innovate widebands are bitchy pieces of code throwing equipment that waste your time. Your critique of Windows having to marry two 38.4 kbit serial data streams, like that's remotely difficult since it's a very slow datarate targeted at serial port equipped computers like pre-Pentium class 50 Mhz DX2. The only reason the serial port has continued to exist into the USB era is because when you're not a tenth as bright as Craig Moates it's
real hard to filter a USB bus so it doesn't act like an antenna for RF noise coming off of the ignition system; it is a STONE AGE interface that operates at a STONE AGE rate and requires a STONE AGE computer to sync two such streams.
FYI, I'm going to finish my EE degree when the economy picks back up so I can find a job using it, but my core class background has me qualified to be an instrumentation engineer right now. I've got ni.com loggers more expensive than your entire tuning kit, whose sample rate and throughput are orders (plural) of magnitude greater, and if I'm running more than one of them then LabView or whatever software I've scripted to use them is expected to marry the streams perfectly. Industry standard, and it is not a hard job for a computer to do as it's toggling interrupts. As far as job complexity goes, does it take a smart guy to load a truck? If you want CPU intensive look at something that requires actual math operations like video rendering or encoding or doing massive amounts of fourier transforms like SETI@home.
Each to his own. There are alot of people on here that worship ectune. Some will probably flame me for this but I dont care. You wont see it in my car and I dont recommend it to others. Plus its a fuckin cow when it come to pc resources compared to Crome.
I ran eCtune on an 800 Mhz P3 with 256Mb of RAM, it took a second to load up but then it was fine. I've tuned a number of 600+ whp car on that laptop, no glitches or crashes or hangups... unlike Crome. If you have system resource allocation problem possibly you should use nlite to strip all the crap you don't need from Windows, and stop installing every piece of bloatware you find on the internet?
Cliffs: This guy has a background in Neon 420A engines and steps in out of left field like he knows something. All his "facts" are wrong, meaning he doesn't like eCtune because he doesn't like Calvin telling him he can't buy a single user license and then tune everyone else's car for money like you can with Crome. He advocates Hondata's complete failure at ignition control over eCtune, when Hondata sues pgmfi.org members in an attempt to retain a stranglehold on the Honda market. Dave B > some dude who doesn't know what he's talking about, sorry.
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