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Author Topic: Bouncinofftherevlimiter's CD5 F22 Hybrid :updated: Dyno'ed, 484hp  (Read 39429 times)

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Here is my car, after procrastinating making this thread for over a year, its finally here.

the car is currently blown up, the spun the middle main bearing while being raped at the strip. maybe next week ill make it to the junkyard to get me another F22 bottom end.

the car is a 95 Accord EX coupe. bought the car with no motor or trans for $200.

the motor:
stock F22A bottom end
F20B sir-t top end
JDM H22 rods
Wiseco 4g63 stroker pistons
King bearings
ARP head studs
Homebuilt ramhorn
Dying Holset HX35
Ching Chong 38mm wastegate
Home made "whitey bend" 3" downpipe
Ching Chong rfl blow off
Evo 560 injectors Delphi 780cc injectors Precision 880cc injectors
Ebay intercooler
XTD stage 3 clutch LSD dragger clutch
M2B4 LSD trans
3 bar map
Chipped P28 on crome, tuned by me Sewell tuned on EcTune
Ebay alum radiator
GC coilovers
Konig 17" rims with 215/45/17 (front tires in pics are drag tires)
accord wagon front rotors and calipers

the car is (well was before it spun a bearing) was running 12lb boost, i was waiting to turn boost up until i had head studs, 3 bar, and bigger injectors. it ran high 13s at around 109 IIRC. the car would not come off the line, it either hopped horribly, or came off the line like a limp dick.

future plans for the car include, new bottom end, head studs, 3 bar map, boost up to 16-18 lbs. home made traction bars, and slicks. hopefully the car will be in the 12s, i dont think it is too far out of reach.









and a few porn pics, just to follow the old protocol...






« Last Edit: May 07, 2012, 04:14:25 PM by bouncinofftherevlimiter »
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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2009, 10:48:01 AM »

Solid first post!!!!

BTW what was your old user name?
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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2009, 11:32:16 AM »

Excellent first post.  You win five internetz sir.
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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2009, 12:35:49 PM »

You used electrical tape to hold your gauges to the colum.

You belong here.  welcome.
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Re: Bouncinofftherevlimiter's crank bearing spinning holset slut. NSFW
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2009, 02:44:15 PM »

i had the same user name on the OHMT, i was mostly a lurker, and just never got around to getting this post made....
i think i had maybe 5 posts in a year, i pm'ed a few people but that was pretty much the extent of it.

the electrical tape is holding the wideband display, i wasnt planning on mounting it perm. but i had to do something
cause i couldnt get freelog to work.

thanks for the welcoming.
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Re: Bouncinofftherevlimiter's crank bearing spinning holset slut. NSFW
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2009, 03:05:49 PM »

Nice to see another Accord.

At least I know what my F22 bottom end is good for now.

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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2009, 03:42:56 PM »

G SERIES NIGGGGAAAZZZZ
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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2009, 04:35:05 PM »

i think the demise of my motor was the fact i was turning 7800 rpm...

next motor, dropping rev limit to 6500 and upping boost!

spiker, i finally made this post, i was hoping you would comment...
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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2009, 07:39:42 PM »

My stock F22b1 saw 6900 reghularloy... If your still making power up there dont be shy, but I wouldnt push it mauch fruther with some oiling system help...
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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2009, 09:30:42 PM »

the motor was a 100k mile junkyard special. when i built the motor i put a fresh honda oil pump and water pump, and the f20 top end.

the car was fine shifting on the street at between 6500 and 7000, i dont think it liked running close to 8000 with old ass bearings and whatnot.

what kind of oiling upgrade can do on the next motor? i want to build another F20B, the one i have came with the car and had spun rod bearing.
I also have a set of forged wiseco pistons for the F20, but i really dont want to put much cash into this car.

Im really looking foward to getting it running again, ill try to get a motor this weekend.

how much boost do you think the stock head bolts can take before i lift the head. The car is running factory F20B bolts and honda f22 head gasket
copper sprayed. im a little apprehensive about going anything over 12. i have a 3 bar, but im waiting to put it on till i know im going to crank the boost.

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i started to tear into the car. the parts are starting to accumlate now. so far the rods, pistons, crank and bearings have showed up. im still waiting on injectors, 3 bar, head studs and head gasket. also i have a couple unexpecteds, the rear motor mount it trashed, and also the clutch turned to shit in a short time (i shouldnt be suprised, ching chong meow FTL....)

the motor is going to be even more of a clusterfuck hybrid, as if it wasnt already. i have to give credit to ashb82 on h-t for giving me the idea about this. here is the link,http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2546957&highlight=h22%2Brods%2B4g63 i think its fucking genius, there is another WELL RESPECTED (by some) member here that agrees with me (cough:spiker:cough)

the motor is still retaining the stock F22 block. I scored a minty stock F22 crank out of the local shityard for $20. the rods are stock H22A P13 rods from sewell. The pistons are Wiesco Evo 8 2.3 stroker pistons. the head is still the PCB F20B dual cam head.

here is the motor about to be pulled out.



here it is on the ground, took like 2 hours and about 6 beers!  ;D



the engine bay is a mess, im going to clean the fuck out of it, tie some shit out of the way, and maybe do some sort of mild wire tuck. i dont want to put a ton of time into it, i want to get it back together in time to get it tuned.



The M2B4 JDM h22 LSD tranny removed



the piece of shit jackie chan XTD stage 3 clutch, 1100 miles on it. no signs of excessive heat, and i really didnt abuse it a fuckload...



Wiesco evo 8 stroker pistons!





P13 H22 rods




my $20 junkyard score. i also got a new timing cover and balancer cause mine had a huge chip in it.



i will continue to update as i progress.

now for everyones favorite part....





that is all for now...


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the rods are at the machine shop getting reconditioned, and i got to thinking, the stock P13 rods are pressed pin and the pistons are floating pin, i guess i got two options, either get the new pistons pressed onto the rods or have them bore and rebush the rods.

what is the better solution here? the machine shop said they can do both, the price of boring and bushing is quite a bit more, is it really worth the extra cost?
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Well well well, that's pretty impressive so see high redlines on an f22 block.


I'm digging the setup, how much PSI did that turbo see daily? Did you ever get it dynoed?
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Just buy some rods there cheap. While your at it port the oil pump.
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Well well well, that's pretty impressive so see high redlines on an f22 block.


I'm digging the setup, how much PSI did that turbo see daily? Did you ever get it dynoed?

the high redline i was running before was a little excess, it was the cause of the crank bearing demise. the new set-up is going to have a more favorable R/S ratio. i prolly will still keep the revs down casue i want a certain amount of reliability with the set-up.

was 12lbs, ran pretty good, never dynoed. ill prolly get new numbers with the new set-up. im going to run as much boost as i can with pump gas being my only limiting factor.

Just buy some rods there cheap. While your at it port the oil pump.


i got good cheap stock H22s and they are more than enough for what i am going to do. i plan to port the oil pump, and also shim it like 1/16. im also going to blend the bowls and just clean up the ports in the head. also the intake is going to get a slight porting.

i talked to the machine shop, they suggested i just have the pins pressed, they have a rod heater and they are only charging like $3/rod. they are also checking the rods for roundness and going to true them if necessary. i picked a shitty weekend, cause the machine shop is going to be off till monday, so i wont have the piston/rod assy till tues or wed. that will give me plenty of time to get the crank in, all porting done, rings gapped, and all that good shit.

tonight im headed to the garage to tear down the motor and give it a thorough cleaning. My goal is to get the block ready for reassembly, if not started re-assembly. i have to hone the cylinders and get everything spotless before i start reassembly, or maybe ill start on porting the oil pump, heads, intake and what not...

will continue to update as more work is completed.
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Got the motor apart tonight, and the block is fucked. The middle main journal is way fucked in the top bearing half of the block.

Tomorrow it's bright and early to the yard, hope the block I robbed the crank from is still there. They only wanted another $20 for the entire motor, I should have taken it when I had the chance.

No pics, can't link them from iPhone, I'll get some tomorrow when I feel like sitting down and doing this from my laptop.

That is all for tonight. Early to bed, going to yard to hopefully get that block, and moving into new house.
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Save those pistons for me!!! i didn't have a chance to press them off, i wanted to get the rods out to you asap.

Hopefully you'll be able to get that block,  i'll be in town from the 8th till the 18th, and then again sometime around  1st of august.
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How much power are you planning on running? I wonder how much the stock h22 rods will be able to handle.

What's the specs on those pistons? I'm assuming the compression height is shorter since you'll be using the longer H22 rods.

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The h22 rods are extremely strong, i've made 500 on them and thats at 8400rpms, good rods are rated by rpms. The stress (force)on the rods are greatest at the bottom and top of the stroke, which is caused by rpm(acceleration). The ignition occurs after Tdc, so the load caused by combustion is typically an after thought.
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Save those pistons for me!!! i didn't have a chance to press them off, i wanted to get the rods out to you asap.

Hopefully you'll be able to get that block,  i'll be in town from the 8th till the 18th, and then again sometime around  1st of august.

ill get them back to you, no problem! i hope itll be done so i can have you tune it but i dunno with work and waiting for parts. might have to go for the august session.

How much power are you planning on running? I wonder how much the stock h22 rods will be able to handle.

What's the specs on those pistons? I'm assuming the compression height is shorter since you'll be using the longer H22 rods.

Good build man.

im going to push as much as the turbo can do on pump gas, itll prolly be alot of torque, not so much with hp. im going to keep the rev down, which consequently will hurt hp, but it is a strictly street car daily driver, that might see the strip a couple times a year.

the pistons with the H22 rods end up .100 in the hole. i dont remember the exact compression ht, but ashb82 did an excellent write up on the link i provided above. all the credit goes to him.

The h22 rods are extremely strong, i've made 500 on them and thats at 8400rpms, good rods are rated by rpms. The stress (force)on the rods are greatest at the bottom and top of the stroke, which is caused by rpm(acceleration). The ignition occurs after Tdc, so the load caused by combustion is typically an after thought.

if you made 500 on them at 8400, then i should be golden. they say double the rpm quadruple the wear, and the forces at that rpm will be far higher than ill ever excert on them. i feel confident in my decision. they look pretty good, l was happy with my choice. thanks for coming through for me.

now that that is taken care of another progress update. i got the block at the local jy, the rest of the F22B2 for another $20. it looks excellent. i pulled it apart, it had decent cyl. walls. i ran a hone through it and the cyls are beautiful.

the pistons and rods are going to be done wed. but it looks like im going out of town tomorrow. i got the block scrubbed, the cyls honed, crank installed with new king bearings (main bng clearances at .0015 smallest and .002 largest) crank journals polished, and started cleaning engine bay.

i also stumbled on a set of brand new precision 880s for mega cheap, so now i have those, delphi 780s and evo8 560s. im selling the 780s locally, and the evos im looking to sell also. ill do a for sale thread sometime, but for now if anyone is interested PM me.

i also acquired a set of head studs and head gasket. all i have to order now is a clutch. im still unsure on that situation. the pressure plate is still good as is the flywheel, but the disc is shit. im looking around to see if i can find a good disc or complete kit for decent money. i dont want to be getting more junk though, any ideas welcome.

i need to port the oil pump and clean some more stuff before i can get the bottom end together, just time isnt on my side right now. i also lost a bet this weekend, and now i have to paint my wastegate, BOV, compressor housing, and valve cover purple. i get to pick the purple though, i think im going with a plum crazy purple. for what it is i think the color will go with my stupid factory blue fairly well. the bet was i put a pound of tannerite in a 55 gal oil barrel, and suspended it with wire, and hit it with the first shot. it fucked the drum up pretty good, blew a hell of a hole in it. i also set some slab wood on the top and it launched the shit out of it. i was impressed. i also put in a gallon of gas. i bet the shock from the tannerite would cause the gas to ignite, and he said it wouldnt. i lost...

pics of said barrel when i upload them to the computer.

well hopefully when i get back everything will be waiting for me and it hopefully goes together well.




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pistons and rods are done, the 3 bar is on its way, the 780s are here, i also scored the brand new 880 precisions, and they are on their way. i got fucked out of a set of head studs, they got sold out from under me...

all i need to do is get home and spend some time working on it. this week has been hectic, im on a well in the middle of nowhere, with no service for phone or computer, and im on site on standby, so im working 14 hour days while sitting in the truck. it is a 11 stage horiz. well, and the frac crew was on the 4th zone yesterday and the perf gun broke the cable and fell into the hole, and now they have to fish with coil tubing. at best the live perf will be out of hole sunday afternoon then resume the frac monday. at best ill be home like the 23rd or so.

FML... at least im hourly and the check is going to be awesome!
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i really hope so!

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Buy a name brand clutch


cdm clutches=failure



Again if it has moveable parts the chinesse cant make it work
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Buy a name brand clutch


cdm clutches=failure



Again if it has moveable parts the chinesse cant make it work

i see that now, im looking into a few decent different ones. my land yacht with the torque of the F i imagine will be very hard on the clutch, time to step up...
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thats where i was looking, ill get with mike and see what can offer


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Where does Mike at LSDmotorsports get his clutches made anyways? I've heard alot of good about them and own one myself but haven't seen what it's got yet....  :(
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i finally have a little update to make. ive been very busy with a wedding when i was home last and work, we are swamped (awesome for paycheck, shitty for progress on the car.)

the last time i was home i did get some progress made, i got the bottom end all together. it rotates now! and everything spec'd out awesome and it went together quite smoothly.

i should be home within the next week, i want to get it all together and partially broke in, then its time to up the boost and see what it can do.

here are a few pics of the bottom going together.








ok, well more updates as the build progresses. hope to have it up and running by mid next week.



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first off let me say two things, first off IT RUNS!!!! and secondly tom sewell is a tuning genius! i cant say enough about how impressed with everything about sewell, the car runs smoother than stock on 880s!

we had a tuning day in spring creek yesterday. tom came up and tuned my brother-in-laws old school late 90s style ricer-riffic CRX, d16a1, big cam, header, high comp. this car is a 90s throwback, body kit, yellow and blue everything, a dash that would make widebody jealous.

the next car was my friends 99 civic coupe. d16z6, ching chong 57 trim, nig nog log, eagle/vitera. the car is quite halfassed, or something along those lines, he is tuned for 17 as of now.

then came my slut. ive been busting my ass for the last three days trying to get it together for when tom comes up. it was together as of tuesday but had some minor issues. i fixed all the bullshit and it was ready to go. Tom uploaded a tune from his old H22 and i fired it up. immediately it idled as smooth as could be! very impressive...

everything turned out good so we went to start tuning. after a minor issue (ran out of gas!) we started tuning. This is where Tom really impressed me. the car drives amazing. from the idle to tip-in to vtec crossover it is all silky smooth. we started cranking boost and ran into an issue. it got to the point where i removed the hose to the wastegate and only could get a spike to 16lb. we both came to the conclusion that the hoslut is dying, which sucks cause i was looking foward to 500... oh well, im going to get another 35, run a 40 compressor and turn it up.

i wish i would have some pics to post but i was busy trying to finish my car and all that good shit, so i really didnt have time.


CLIFFNOTES: car is back together, runs, sewell tuned, turbo taking shit, tom is the man!
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