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Boost = Bogging
« on: July 12, 2009, 06:25:11 PM »

 So I finalley got my motor in, and cleared alll Cells. Then went for a test dive. Car seemed to be doing ok, untill it hit boost. Then it would sputter/bog.
I had to shift every time boost would kick in. I was in 5th gear doing 40mph on the freeway.

What am I over looking? Cuplers seem fine. No vac lines appear to be off.

This is my 1st boosted motor so take it easy on me fellas.

if you want a run down of my set up , I can post it aswell.
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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2009, 06:28:42 PM »

Afr's as you get to boost?
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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2009, 06:32:44 PM »

You went boost? WTF has the world come to?

What's the setup? What spark plugs, what management?
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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2009, 07:16:56 PM »

probably stock ecu???
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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2009, 07:47:34 PM »

yeah, joser I went boost. haha.

Not a stock map. This motor /tune came out of my freinds AWD Turbo CRX. Witch was also in his AWD agovan.  And now in my CRX.

Don't have a A/F guage hooked up. But it feels like it might not be getting enough fuel. (that make scence).

quick vids of the motor running, and rwd burn out. When It was in the old crx.
4wd crx project AWD turbo pulls and a launch
4wd crx project AWD turbo part 3 gravel burn out #2
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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2009, 08:24:39 PM »

Bogging is typically too much fuel.

No A/F gauge = basically no help. Unless you are good at reading plugs, but if you were you wouldn't be posting here.
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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2009, 10:17:13 PM »

What he said.

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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2009, 10:31:22 PM »

then tomarrow, I'll go get me a A/F guage, and some new plugs Just incase. 


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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2009, 10:38:25 PM »

No nigger, not an a/f gauge. You need a wideband puta.
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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2009, 10:41:00 PM »

on my buget, dang a wideband?. Joser hook me up I know you got something that will make this crx quick.

BTW, you back in Yaks?
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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2009, 10:44:12 PM »

on my buget, dang a wideband?...

Or become proficient at reading plugs, one and/or the other.
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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2009, 10:45:52 PM »

on my way out the door to pull plugs. See how these babys look.

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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2009, 10:54:01 PM »

Things you need to do to read plugs:

-Fresh set of plugs
-Make a run up to where the issue is, turn off car RIGHT THEN.
-Pull over with out restarting car
-Pull plugs
-Examine with magnifying glass.

Adjust and repeat as necessary.
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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2009, 10:58:01 PM »

^^ go to know. In that case. I have to wait untill to marrow to go to Autozone to get new plugs , so i can try this.

Special recomandations for plugs? brand,gap setting,ect??
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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2009, 11:16:13 PM »

so cool.  As soon as Auto parts store opens, I'm there.
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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2009, 11:18:30 PM »

so cool.  As soon as Auto parts store opens, I'm there.

While your out pick up a big 10x magnifying glass.
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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2009, 11:22:04 PM »

hell yeah, I'm going to fry some ants inthe sun .   J/K 
thanx for your help. I will update tomarrow, with new plugs. See whats going on.

Joser, where you at? If your in Yaks hit me up. I could use a second set of eyes.
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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2009, 11:34:05 PM »

I'm in Yakima, been here for over a month. Give me a call. I work at Borton right down the street from where you used to live(was it you that moved, or Kukes?), lol. So I can go to your house after work(6pm ish). My new laptop comes in tomorrow, so maybe we can work out a deal to get you tuned later on this week.

Get some NGK 5791(bkr7e11). What's the rest of the setup?
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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2009, 02:13:27 AM »

Your working @ Borton....manI'm over there fixing there shit all the time (hysters/trucks/ect).

I live about a mile from there. Hit me up, I'll get the plugs tomarrow. I'm off the next 3days. We can work something out.

the set up:

D16A block w/Z6 Head
9:0.1 Arias pistons
Eagle rods
DSM 450 inj
SK2 IM w/LS TB
NSR mani
T3 42/48 turbo
36mm  WG
Blitz BOV
and the usal AEM cam gear/ARP headstuds/ect/ect

got a little bigger turbo on the shelf, but need to rebuild it. This build was ment to be for Auto-X mainly.
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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2009, 05:08:51 AM »

so cool.  As soon as Auto parts store opens, I'm there.

While your out pick up a big 10x magnifying glass.

China Freight has $3 sets of jewelers loupes.  Anything bigger than 3X does a good job.

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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2009, 09:44:30 AM »

so cool.  As soon as Auto parts store opens, I'm there.

While your out pick up a big 10x magnifying glass.

China Freight has $3 sets of jewelers loupes.  Anything bigger than 3X does a good job.

I'm just getting into reading plugs myself and I like the super huge novelty sized magnifying glass, as it is easier to look through and take pictures magnified, but you can't argue with $3...
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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2009, 10:28:28 AM »

Get rid of the "SK2 IM w/LS TB" replace with ported Z6 intake mani/ ported + spacer+ 70mm tb; you can get this from
Chris M. BTW after selling the sknkfool mani and buying everything from
Chris M you will have made more power and still have money in the bank!
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« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2009, 10:44:21 AM »

Get rid of the "SK2 IM w/LS TB" replace with ported Z6 intake mani/ ported + spacer+ 70mm tb; you can get this from
Chris M. BTW after selling the sknkfool mani and buying everything from
Chris M you will have made more power and still have money in the bank!
I hope your at least getting a free throttle body for that...

You will see improvedthrottle response and no you will not see any bucking. there are alot of members running these all with great success.

Hum... should I get one of these..... Chris hoe much more would I have to send? :noel:

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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2009, 11:54:33 AM »

Sorry No Update.

Spent the whole day fishing yestarday.

Going to go get plugs today.   

Joser, my phone went dead, since it was searching for service the whole day. Hit me up today after work.
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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2009, 11:42:48 PM »

spell check can be your friend  :noel:
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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2009, 01:57:56 PM »

im not sure spelling would affect the motor when going into boost. i would check the plug gap, might be too big. put the new ones down to .30 and see if that helps.
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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2009, 08:36:41 PM »

SP* great option, but I always forget to use it. Not really I just don't use it. Any smoochie boochie, bitchez.

We looked at the plugs, and put in new ones. They where fine. Jose can chime in with more details on that. He (Joser) aslo took home the chip and looked over the program,and its seem to be good aswell.

So now, I'm just waiting for my wife to get home so I can steal her dizzy and swap that out. Since I keep getting a code 9 , every once and awile.

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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2009, 09:24:21 PM »

Plugs were extremely fouled out, but nothing else besides that. Put in new plugs, and then I went for a quick run. It bogs out completely as soon as it goes over 0in/hg. It doesn't matter what throttle position is, or what rpms. It's like it hits a fucking wall or something.

The rpm needle doesn't fluctuate and everything is hooked up correctly. I took a look at the .bin and it was good. It was getting a code 9, so we'll see what happens when he replaces the ignitor/dizzy.

It has a walbro with DSM injectors running OEM ignition. Nothing weird or odd about the setup itself.
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Re: Boost = Bogging
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2009, 07:42:03 PM »

Have you tried redoing the .bin?  Crome is generally a LOT better than UD was, but once or twice I've had it corrupt a .bin which causes problems like that.
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