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Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« on: August 01, 2009, 12:33:30 PM »
Craigslist is coming up with high mileage 1990 4Runners, some pathfinders, etc.  I don't care about mileage if it's going to last a while.

Priority list:
1) Reliability... it's gonna be my daily driver in the near future.  I don't mind working on a vehicle, just not every other day and for twice as much $ as I paid for it.
2) 4x4 capability
3) Everything else (horsepower, creature comforts, safety, etc... not THAT important)



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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2009, 01:45:10 PM »
http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/for/1300449965.html
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/1300314239.html
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1299344139.html
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1300376437.html
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I will help you find a motor and also help you get it in. We could park it in my the garage and we could knock it out in a few hours.
http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/1292658617.html
http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/1290140582.html


I would pick up any one of them. All have easy to find parts and are pretty easy to work on. I would lean more towards the civics than the others, but thats because im kinda a older honda fan.
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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2009, 01:50:40 PM »
Quote from: ratcityrex on August 01, 2009, 01:45:10 PM
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1300376437.html
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I will help you find a motor and also help you get it in. We could park it in my the garage and we could knock it out in a few hours.

I like this one... run it til it dies then throw in a swap.  TPRC v2.0?  ;)
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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2009, 01:56:11 PM »
Quote from: Kenny Rogers on August 01, 2009, 01:50:40 PM
Quote from: ratcityrex on August 01, 2009, 01:45:10 PM
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1300376437.html
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I will help you find a motor and also help you get it in. We could park it in my the garage and we could knock it out in a few hours.

I like this one... run it til it dies then throw in a swap.  TPRC v2.0?  ;)

What I like is that it wont pass smog, but here in kitsap it dont fucken matter, no smog test for us.
Im sure ryan has a built dohc we could steal out of his delslut and put in it... :P
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New setup is old bottom end with a hype r head with gsr cams. built lsv with hx35 @ 26psi on pump gas
LEED tuned! 434hp/329tq http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pbDXZxZdZs
http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php/topic,16195.0.html

Old Setup B18a1 296hp/289tq LEED Tuned 20psi on pump! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yj-Z90j4W4   
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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2009, 02:05:13 PM »
4runner no questions asked.
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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2009, 02:10:04 PM »
Quote from: E-b0la on August 01, 2009, 02:05:13 PM
4runner no questions asked.

Always way over priced though. Hes not gona be out mudding in it. Just something to mob around in the snow and maybe a loging road to get to a campsite. My vote is for a RT4wd  civic wagon.
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New setup is old bottom end with a hype r head with gsr cams. built lsv with hx35 @ 26psi on pump gas
LEED tuned! 434hp/329tq http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pbDXZxZdZs
http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php/topic,16195.0.html

Old Setup B18a1 296hp/289tq LEED Tuned 20psi on pump! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yj-Z90j4W4   
http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php/topic,205.msg2437.html#msg2437

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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2009, 02:17:32 PM »
Quote from: ratcityrex on August 01, 2009, 02:10:04 PM
Quote from: E-b0la on August 01, 2009, 02:05:13 PM
4runner no questions asked.

Always way over priced though. Hes not gona be out mudding in it. Just something to mob around in the snow and maybe a loging road to get to a campsite. My vote is for a RT4wd  civic wagon.

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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2009, 02:25:19 PM »
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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2009, 02:38:35 PM »
4 runner... 1800, seems decent

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1291722714.html

I have spent time getting to know hondas... Toyotas, not so much.  I'm gonna have to do some research.
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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2009, 06:08:23 PM »
Jeep Cherokee

you can find them in auto or manual, a/c, the whole nine yards for under $1500
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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2009, 09:26:01 PM »
I'll keep a jeep in mind too.  Which engine has a better design - the 4 cylinder 22re or the v6 3vz?
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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2009, 10:08:00 PM »
ford explorer with the 4.0l and ttb front suspension++MUST BE MANUAL++ and check to make sure the 4x4 acuator works (they sieze up from not useing). I hate the 4runner 3.0l v6 and the autos and the 5 spd and the torsion bars with rear coils.

but you know the rt4wd wagon and a 10 pounds owns all.
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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2009, 10:37:58 PM »
Quote from: highroller54 on August 01, 2009, 10:08:00 PM
ford explorer with the 4.0l and ttb front suspension++MUST BE MANUAL++ and check to make sure the 4x4 acuator works (they sieze up from not useing). I hate the 4runner 3.0l v6 and the autos and the 5 spd and the torsion bars with rear coils.

but you know the rt4wd wagon and a 10 pounds owns all.


Certain model come with the ttb front suspension?
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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2009, 10:57:20 PM »
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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2009, 11:10:21 PM »
Dont buy a POS Ford Explorer, So far Ive put a motor, water pump, fuel pump, and all new bushings in the front and it has 120,000  :?:
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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2009, 01:25:53 AM »
Quote from: 88dx on August 01, 2009, 11:10:21 PM
Dont buy a POS Ford Explorer, So far Ive put a motor, water pump, fuel pump, and all new bushings in the front and it has 120,000  :?:

in 17 years I have never changed a 91-95 4.0l water pump that I can rember, They do like to chew the pushrods up and tick if the owner didn't change the oil. I thought that thing was yor moms or some shit?
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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2009, 03:51:05 AM »
i love the 4runner because it is dead reliable. i can't remember how many times my friend drove in and out of town going 75 wot the whole way. (yeah it was low on power/bigger tires).  but never a problem with it.


 and his jeep cherokee with the 4.0L 6 cly.(?)  only issue was leaky injectors, and a steering shimmy. but that was due to the 4.5" lift and 31's.

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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2009, 04:01:08 PM »
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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2009, 04:22:15 PM »
I'm buying a 95 land rover discovery for $2200 cash, hopefully this week.
Doesnt really get much more SUV than that.

Ive had my 94 isuzu trooper now for 8 years and cant complain one bit. Another bitchin true SUV that can be had for the $2g range if you look.
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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2009, 04:55:59 PM »
snap, totally forgot about the trooper... my buddy used to have one, that thing was a tank.
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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2009, 06:45:04 PM »
Isuzu Trooper. They're worthless and easy to find cheap. Very reliable and very capable. Japaneese made and they're awesome trucks. (crazy shit, like it has a frame under it, amongst many other oddities). 
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There is no such thing as too much boost. You could have too little rod, piston, or sleeve. But never too much boost.

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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2009, 07:01:15 PM »
Troopers.  I don't know what I love about them more, how they crack between the valve seats for no reason, or the engine harness catches on fire for no reason.
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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2009, 07:09:55 PM »
Quote from: Joseph Davis on August 02, 2009, 07:01:15 PM
Troopers.  I don't know what I love about them more, how they crack between the valve seats for no reason, or the engine harness catches on fire for no reason.
I've never seen or heard of either of these problems. But I can say they're great trucks for the money, and pretty damn reliable. Just drove my 86' Trooper 260 miles to Starkville. 22.5 MPG too.
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There is no such thing as too much boost. You could have too little rod, piston, or sleeve. But never too much boost.

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« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2009, 07:10:17 PM »
Oh yeah, and it has 224K miles on the clock. :)
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There is no such thing as too much boost. You could have too little rod, piston, or sleeve. But never too much boost.

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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2009, 10:08:57 PM »
http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/ctd/1295483097.html

That would probably be worth looking at. In my experience with toyota's mileage means nothing if it runs good, and has oil changes.


The 22-RE is easier to work on, especially in a 4runner/truck chassis. There's more room

The 3vze does have more appropriate umph for the 4runner though, but is a bit tighter on space under the hood.

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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2009, 11:22:35 PM »
Bottom line toyota makes some extremly reliable vehicles that last forever. only problem is in most cases engine/drivetrain outlasts the body.
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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2009, 12:51:37 AM »
22r FTW my mother old 4runner had 350k on it when she got rid of it. Still ran great, oh and as far as maintenance she would change the oil every 8k :-X the truck would not die.!!!
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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2009, 01:02:58 AM »
shit i have a geo prizm (same as a corolla) with the 4afe engine and it has 230k on it and runs good no problems. i drive the dog piss out of it to.
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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2009, 09:00:48 AM »
Quote from: Joseph Davis on August 02, 2009, 07:01:15 PM
Troopers.  I don't know what I love about them more, how they crack between the valve seats for no reason, or the engine harness catches on fire for no reason.

I have never ever heard of either of these issues. The only issue they have is the stupid tick which is from the shitty lifters. Mine ticks. It has 195k miles on it, ive made probably 15-20 1000 mile road trips with it, it will go through dam near anything, its got a ton of room in it....and its never really givin me any problems. I did put KYB shocks on it, and poly swaybar bushings which helped the handling a ton. Ive maintained the crap out of mine also. New pumps, belts, regular oil changes, etc. etc. etc.

Wire harness catching fire and the valve seats cracking or the wire harness catching fire. NEVER heard or seen anything about this. Not on the forums, never seen one in a yard burnt, nothing. 

id recommend a trooper to anyone. btw, dont get the dohc version. everything costs way more for replacement parts. dont know why, but it does.
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Re: Need input on a sub $2,000 SUV (nsfw)
« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2009, 10:15:35 AM »
That's because all the trucks prone to wiring fires are gone, or fixed, ten years ago.  Some small number of the fires were caused by leaky injectors, FYI, there are a couple TSB about it, but most would short the alternator without blowing a fuse (!?) and they'd go *poof*

As far as the heads, there are a lot more threads across the internet but this one merely has 20+ unique posters commenting on the problem... http://www.carsurvey.org/reviews/isuzu/trooper/r44675/comments/

Let me guess, you guys mostly have the 2.3 and not the 2.6?


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