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Turbo Calculator
« on: March 11, 2009, 06:42:33 PM »

Hi folks.  I am sure some of you used this on the old website.  I figured I would post my creation again.  I have some new maps that will be posted up tonight.
http://www.squirrelpf.com/turbocalc/index.php

I am glad you all have started a new forum!  RickP is tool and I have more then my share of run ins with him!  All he cares about is money.

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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2009, 06:46:58 PM »

someone needs to come up with a JD calculator.  We would own all your base.
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2009, 06:53:57 PM »

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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2009, 06:55:57 PM »

is that some kind of hack?   :P
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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2009, 11:26:42 PM »

I love this calculator, but I'm still in the self teaching mode for some of the finer points, like expected VE at what RPM's to expect with what engine ect. ect.
I've spent a ridiculous amount of time trying different combo's with it.

thank you kindly though for a very useful and time saving tool...although I'm not 100% confident in my accuracy on all my input data.

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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2009, 06:20:38 AM »

I love this calculator, but I'm still in the self teaching mode for some of the finer points, like expected VE at what RPM's to expect with what engine ect. ect.
I've spent a ridiculous amount of time trying different combo's with it.

thank you kindly though for a very useful and time saving tool...although I'm not 100% confident in my accuracy on all my input data.



I don't know how much fuel tuning you do, but one of the best ways to find your VE is to look at your fuel pumping efficency.  I don't know what kind of engine management you are using, but let me know if I can help.  Assuming anything but 100% is always going to be close enough sometimes.  The other thing you can do is make it match the shape of your HP curve and make the peak around 90-95% percent with the lowest around 78%.
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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2009, 11:36:14 AM »

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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2009, 05:38:41 PM »

Pretty neat... it takes most of the thinking out of compressor maps (assuming your inputs are correct).  This is the closest thing I could get to a decent looking compressor map.

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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2009, 01:37:57 PM »

heres another good one i just found.

http://www.not2fast.com/turbo/glossary/turbo_calc.shtml

I use that one to play with b/c you can DL to your computer and not have to be logged in.

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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2009, 06:21:23 PM »

haha i got a couple entries in, winged one, then went "uuuuuhhhhhhhh, nvm"

i wish i understood this more, i have a 1.8t and would really like to figure out the best goals on the stock turbo.
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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2009, 01:35:00 PM »

pretty close
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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2009, 02:59:01 PM »

haha i got a couple entries in, winged one, then went "uuuuuhhhhhhhh, nvm"

i wish i understood this more, i have a 1.8t and would really like to figure out the best goals on the stock turbo.

seriously. some of this stuff i just dont get. like how to read the chart at the bottom after you choose your turbo.
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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2009, 09:30:40 AM »

haha i got a couple entries in, winged one, then went "uuuuuhhhhhhhh, nvm"

i wish i understood this more, i have a 1.8t and would really like to figure out the best goals on the stock turbo.

seriously. some of this stuff i just dont get. like how to read the chart at the bottom after you choose your turbo.

It's realy not that hard, it is just a graph of the turbo's output at a given rpm and pressure. Like a dyno graph but for the turbos compressor.
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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2009, 12:39:32 PM »

so when i plug in the 16g that im running now it spikes just before the little graph of ovals. and almost at 90 degrees

and when i plug in the ko3 that im thinking about getting it spikes right in the middle of the graph. and at a lower angle

so which one is better according to this graph.

engine is 1.6
going for 250 hp
4500 ft elevation
7500 redline


which side of the graph is rpms and which side shows boost
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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2009, 02:26:09 PM »

on the left is PR=pressure ratio=(Atm+boost)/Atm.

the bottom of the graph is indirectly rpms. expressed in CFM, Kg /s , or lbs./min (Vol. rate)

I usually figure out what the desired Vol. rate per 1000rpms then multiply by what ever the 2,3,4,5,6,7.....etc x k rpms you are looking at.

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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2009, 04:31:23 PM »

that makes sense.

but still too many numbers to transpose into our system to make sense.
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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2009, 01:18:54 PM »

What I got for my turbo at 380HP with 110*F post-IC temps.



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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2009, 03:41:39 PM »

now could you explain what all of it means
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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2009, 01:44:57 AM »

wow that is sick.

very in depth.
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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2010, 11:14:09 PM »

now could you explain what all of it means

It means he's running dangerously close to surge and well out of the efficiency island.
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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2010, 06:08:53 PM »

Thought I throw this link up for turbo ID. by measurement. ;D

http://fc3spro.com/TECH/TURBO/tmodels.html

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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2010, 01:58:12 AM »

I just updated my calculator to do Turbo and twincharged calculations :

Including wastegate size, turbo size, intercooler size, hotside and cold side piping , boost pressure for your power target and all the fuel math you'd need to pull it off (injectors, pump, feed and return lines).

http://www.superchargerperformance.com/the-power-calculator

It also tells you other info like maximum safe redline for your bore/stroke combo which is really cool and volumetric efficiency (since someone asked about this) at your stock peak power rpm... if you want , you can also get your VE at any data point you want through the tuning tab (which recommends AFR and total timing figures based on your VE so the VE is calculated and displayed there too).

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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2010, 11:08:44 PM »

It also tells you other info like maximum safe redline for your bore/stroke combo

Not that all the other bells and whistles you mention aren't erroneous, too, but that claim right there is dumb as shit and can't be expressed with a simple applet.

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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2012, 07:44:29 AM »

Not a turbo Calculator but a good place for Garret base turbo spec.

http://fc3spro.com/TECH/TURBO/tmodels.html

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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2013, 07:56:30 PM »

http://horsepowercalculators.net/ and http://horsepowercalculators.net/the-horsepower-calculator

Used the second link and found the exact info. I worked out on paper for my twincharge setup works.

The Holset map for He351ve is better than I've seen everywhere else.


And my SC14 map looks good too.


$10 or so for this calculator and it gives you a lot of info., including meth inj, home brew fuel, suggestions of sizing the complete system, part by part.

I like this calculator the most for the comprehensive maps.  :noel:

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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2014, 07:17:39 AM »

New turbo calculator Borg Werner MatchBot to play with  :noel:

http://www.turbos.bwauto.com/aftermarket/matchbot/index.html#version=1.3&displacement=2&CID=122.04&altitude=500&baro=14.502&aat=75&turboconfig=1&compressor=70s75&pt1_rpm=2000&pt1_ve=85&pt1_boost=5&pt1_ie=99&pt1_filres=0.08&pt1_ipd=0.2&pt1_mbp=0.5&pt1_ce=66&pt1_te=75&pt1_egt=1550&pt1_ter=1.18&pt1_pw=NaN&pt1_bsfc=0.43&pt1_afr=11.5&pt1_wts=300&pt1_wd=83&pt1_wd2=74&pt1_wrsin=69033&pt2_rpm=3000&pt2_ve=95&pt2_boost=10&pt2_ie=95&pt2_filres=0.1&pt2_ipd=0.2&pt2_mbp=1&pt2_ce=70&pt2_te=73&pt2_egt=1600&pt2_ter=1.36&pt2_pw=NaN&pt2_bsfc=0.45&pt2_afr=11.5&pt2_wts=320&pt2_wd=83&pt2_wd2=74&pt2_wrsin=73635&pt3_rpm=4000&pt3_ve=100&pt3_boost=15&pt3_ie=95&pt3_filres=0.12&pt3_ipd=0.3&pt3_mbp=1.3&pt3_ce=74&pt3_te=72&pt3_egt=1650&pt3_ter=1.61&pt3_pw=NaN&pt3_bsfc=0.48&pt3_afr=11.5&pt3_wts=340&pt3_wd=83&pt3_wd2=74&pt3_wrsin=78238&pt4_rpm=5000&pt4_ve=100&pt4_boost=17&pt4_ie=92&pt4_filres=0.15&pt4_ipd=0.4&pt4_mbp=1.5&pt4_ce=76&pt4_te=71&pt4_egt=1650&pt4_ter=1.81&pt4_pw=NaN&pt4_bsfc=0.5&pt4_afr=11.5&pt4_wts=368&pt4_wd=83&pt4_wd2=74&pt4_wrsin=84681&pt5_rpm=6000&pt5_ve=105&pt5_boost=17&pt5_ie=90&pt5_filres=0.18&pt5_ipd=0.5&pt5_mbp=1.8&pt5_ce=72&pt5_te=70&pt5_egt=1650&pt5_ter=1.98&pt5_pw=NaN&pt5_bsfc=0.52&pt5_afr=11.5&pt5_wts=400&pt5_wd=83&pt5_wd2=74&pt5_wrsin=92044&pt6_rpm=7000&pt6_ve=105&pt6_boost=17&pt6_ie=90&pt6_filres=0.2&pt6_ipd=0.6&pt6_mbp=2&pt6_ce=66&pt6_te=70&pt6_egt=1650&pt6_ter=2.18&pt6_pw=NaN&pt6_bsfc=0.55&pt6_afr=11.5&pt6_wts=400&pt6_wd=83&pt6_wd2=74&pt6_wrsin=92044&

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Re: Turbo Calculator
« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2014, 01:52:35 PM »

Hi folks.  I am sure some of you used this on the old website.  I figured I would post my creation again.  I have some new maps that will be posted up tonight.
http://www.squirrelpf.com/turbocalc/index.php

I am glad you all have started a new forum!  RickP is tool and I have more then my share of run ins with him!  All he cares about is money.

Thanks,
Frank

Hi!! Could you please post a working link of your website? it is by far the best turbo calculator iv seen so far!

Tnks!
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