Topic: Fuel Pumpage (Read 7902 times)

danwjmu · « **on:** October 22, 2009, 02:35:32 PM »

Ok... I want a fuel pump. I'm leaning toward a 044... but reading about it I'm seeing where they suggest putting the 044 inline with the stock pump still in the tank. The two pumps relieve some of the load of the other, like a dual engine setup thing. This is neat and doesn't require me fucking with a crx fuel tank. Stupid idea or is this just every day shit people do with inline pumps?

Thoughts?

rudebwoy · « **Reply #1 on:** October 22, 2009, 03:56:12 PM »

walbro, I run 2 of them with the full blown hanger and they are great. plus one is good enough for 500whp

patsmx5 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 22, 2009, 06:36:22 PM »

In the miata world, back in the day people used inline fuel booster pumps. They do work. Only problems were reliability of the boost pump and the extra noise of the inline pump. If you have a quality pump, and don't mind the noise, it will work. I bought one and was going to do it, but then fuel pump prices got cheap and it only takes 5 minutes to pull the fuel pump in a miata, so I sold the inline and bought a 255HP.

brine04 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 22, 2009, 07:09:03 PM »

Just run an in tank walbro. They are cheap and even with having to drop the tank it's an hour job tops. Also you can't fully rewire the pump with the tank in.

Minor Threat · « **Reply #4 on:** October 22, 2009, 07:09:57 PM »

x2 Dropping the tank really isn't as bad as people make it out to be.

chris · « **Reply #5 on:** October 22, 2009, 07:25:46 PM »

Quote from: Minor Threat on October 22, 2009, 07:09:57 PM

x2 Dropping the tank really isn't as bad as people make it out to be.

I had 2 black widows chillin waiting the last crx tank I dropped. I will now go armed with cans of carb cleaner for defense.

Teg2boo · « **Reply #6 on:** October 22, 2009, 07:49:33 PM »

Quote from: Minor Threat on October 22, 2009, 07:09:57 PM

x2 Dropping the tank really isn't as bad as people make it out to be.

It's a real pain in the ass on a almost 20 years canadian car. Really

Hoses are breaking, fuel pump cover is stuck in 1" of rust etc.

The worst part is when you change it because it leaks and you need torch to remove the bolts $:-\$

Otherwise, it's not that bad.

chris · « **Reply #7 on:** October 22, 2009, 07:51:08 PM »

Even the cars I deal with in northern california at the tanks are major bitch with rust etc

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #8 on:** October 22, 2009, 08:02:27 PM »

Quote from: rudebwoy on October 22, 2009, 03:56:12 PM

walbro, I run 2 of them with the full blown hanger and they are great. plus one is good enough for 500whp

Make that 640 whp.

Robb · « **Reply #9 on:** October 22, 2009, 08:35:28 PM »

Quote from: rudebwoy on October 22, 2009, 03:56:12 PM

walbro, I run 2 of them with the full blown hanger and they are great. plus one is good enough for 500whp

Why didnt you just zip tie the 2nd pump to the stock hanger?

brine04 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 22, 2009, 09:42:15 PM »

Quote from: Teg2boo on October 22, 2009, 07:49:33 PM

Quote from: Minor Threat on October 22, 2009, 07:09:57 PM
x2 Dropping the tank really isn't as bad as people make it out to be.

It's a real pain in the ass on a almost 20 years canadian car. Really Hoses are breaking, fuel pump cover is stuck in 1" of rust etc.

The worst part is when you change it because it leaks and you need torch to remove the bolts $:-\$

Otherwise, it's not that bad.

It has been pretty easy on all my 20 year old canadian cars.

rudebwoy · « **Reply #11 on:** October 23, 2009, 07:34:09 AM »

Quote from: Robb on October 22, 2009, 08:35:28 PM

Quote from: rudebwoy on October 22, 2009, 03:56:12 PM
walbro, I run 2 of them with the full blown hanger and they are great. plus one is good enough for 500whp

Why didnt you just zip tie the 2nd pump to the stock hanger?

I am not that ghetto, don't like to take crazy risks on a expensive motor, first time I installed them I fried burned one of the pumps make it looked like chalk cold after putting in a bad relay, lucky car did not cought on fire, guess no oxygen in the tank save my ass. plus its almost impossible to get 2 pumps in the tank. it was still difficult using the hanger.

oinesra · « **Reply #12 on:** October 23, 2009, 08:31:45 AM »

Quote from: rudebwoy on October 23, 2009, 07:34:09 AM

I am not that ghetto, don't like to take crazy risks on a expensive motor, first time I installed them I fried burned one of the pumps make it looked like chalk cold after putting in a bad relay, lucky car did not cought on fire, guess no oxygen in the tank save my ass. plus its almost impossible to get 2 pumps in the tank. it was still difficult using the hanger.

If you are not going to do this, maybe this site isn't for you.

Robb · « **Reply #13 on:** October 23, 2009, 08:36:49 AM »

Quote from: rudebwoy on October 23, 2009, 07:34:09 AM

Quote from: Robb on October 22, 2009, 08:35:28 PM
Quote from: rudebwoy on October 22, 2009, 03:56:12 PM
walbro, I run 2 of them with the full blown hanger and they are great. plus one is good enough for 500whp

Why didnt you just zip tie the 2nd pump to the stock hanger?
I am not that ghetto, don't like to take crazy risks on a expensive motor, first time I installed them I fried burned one of the pumps make it looked like chalk cold after putting in a bad relay, lucky car did not cought on fire, guess no oxygen in the tank save my ass. plus its almost impossible to get 2 pumps in the tank. it was still difficult using the hanger.

This is not ghetto. Lots of 600+whp supra guys done it for years. I dont do anything to my cars that would make them unsafe, nor do I recommend anything that would be unsafe.

jagojon3 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 23, 2009, 08:47:20 AM »

Quote from: oinesra on October 23, 2009, 08:31:45 AM

Quote from: rudebwoy on October 23, 2009, 07:34:09 AM
I am not that ghetto, don't like to take crazy risks on a expensive motor, first time I installed them I fried burned one of the pumps make it looked like chalk cold after putting in a bad relay, lucky car did not cought on fire, guess no oxygen in the tank save my ass. plus its almost impossible to get 2 pumps in the tank. it was still difficult using the hanger.

If you are not going to do this, maybe this site isn't for you.

Shut the fuck up, if anybody doesn't belong here it's you due to your ignorance of OGs.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #15 on:** October 23, 2009, 08:52:02 AM »

Thanks, Jon. I was about to point that out.

I'm a little wary of zipties + gasoline. Some offbrand zipties suck.

92CXyD · « **Reply #16 on:** October 23, 2009, 11:43:01 AM »

Quote from: rudebwoy on October 22, 2009, 03:56:12 PM

walbro, I run 2 of them with the full blown hanger and they are great. plus one is good enough for 500whp

Picts of this setup or similar. Curious on how this was done. ;D

rudebwoy · « **Reply #17 on:** October 23, 2009, 01:55:42 PM »

Quote from: oinesra on October 23, 2009, 08:31:45 AM

If you are not going to do this, maybe this site isn't for you.

can someone count for me how many times I've been told that I don't belong here buy someone 1/16 of the experience or time on this forum or building and turbocharging hondas.

well I believe that the only reason why someone do something untraditional or "ghetto" to their cars is because they cannot afford to buy the part needed to do it safe "right" or the part is not available. everytime I take a risk I pay big time. I just had to order a new Ge block because of being cheap, the ne cost me $1500 including sh. + internals.... so if it means being stupid to be a part of rhmt maybe I don't belong here. maybe I should make build thread for you to see what I am working with and my power goal.

rudebwoy · « **Reply #18 on:** October 23, 2009, 02:01:46 PM »

Quote from: 92CXyD on October 23, 2009, 11:43:01 AM

Quote from: rudebwoy on October 22, 2009, 03:56:12 PM
walbro, I run 2 of them with the full blown hanger and they are great. plus one is good enough for 500whp

Picts of this setup or similar. Curious on how this was done. ;D

this is my final pic, did not took any of the install process, but only one pump at a time can go in.
and on side note a honda fuel pump hanger is different from a supra, so the same thing done a supra cannot be done to a honda.

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92CXyD · « **Reply #19 on:** October 23, 2009, 02:03:47 PM »

where did you get that hanger?

rudebwoy · « **Reply #20 on:** October 23, 2009, 02:07:27 PM »

http://www.fullblownmotorsports.net/product_info.php/products_id/59

92CXyD · « **Reply #21 on:** October 23, 2009, 02:20:18 PM »

Thank for the link.

I'm using that pict to design and fab my own. ;D

rudebwoy · « **Reply #22 on:** October 23, 2009, 02:45:18 PM »

thats what thought when I first got mine, its a very simple unit, if I had access to machining equipment, rhmt would have them at $80 shipped, I think OBX is working on as we speak

, but its patent so I dont know how its comming, I msg wier before about it, but I guess he is worried about legal issues. all it is a machined alluminum piece with fittings, looks very easy to make. I took it to a fab shop here and they quote me 600euros just to machined the plate part.

92CXyD · « **Reply #23 on:** October 23, 2009, 02:53:45 PM »

What kind of demand is there?

I can check and see how much it cost for me inhouse to make the plate.

I was thinking of just taking stock hangers and modifying them to work with two pump like I saw on here a while back.

If memory serves me right I think Spiker had posted a 2 pumps on stock hanger build but I can not find the bookmarked link I had.

onlyflash944 · « **Reply #24 on:** October 24, 2009, 10:49:35 AM »

stock hanger and hose clamp instead of zip tie for 2nd pump

Minor Threat · « **Reply #25 on:** October 24, 2009, 02:55:53 PM »

Quote from: Teg2boo on October 22, 2009, 07:49:33 PM

Quote from: Minor Threat on October 22, 2009, 07:09:57 PM
x2 Dropping the tank really isn't as bad as people make it out to be.

It's a real pain in the ass on a almost 20 years canadian car. Really Hoses are breaking, fuel pump cover is stuck in 1" of rust etc.

The worst part is when you change it because it leaks and you need torch to remove the bolts $:-\$

Otherwise, it's not that bad.

I've done it on all my 20 year old canadian cars. Learn to use vice grips?

Teg2boo · « **Reply #26 on:** October 25, 2009, 10:10:13 AM »

Quote from: Minor Threat on October 24, 2009, 02:55:53 PM

Quote from: Teg2boo on October 22, 2009, 07:49:33 PM
Quote from: Minor Threat on October 22, 2009, 07:09:57 PM
x2 Dropping the tank really isn't as bad as people make it out to be.

It's a real pain in the ass on a almost 20 years canadian car. Really Hoses are breaking, fuel pump cover is stuck in 1" of rust etc.

The worst part is when you change it because it leaks and you need torch to remove the bolts $:-\$

Otherwise, it's not that bad.

I've done it on all my 20 year old canadian cars. Learn to use vice grips?

I'm not only talking about bolts, fuel hose are all rusty and break in your hand when you try to remove them. Maybe its a problem on integra, but 2 of my 3 integra I had to change all the lines from the tank to inside the car.

One of the bolt holding the straps broke and the other I had to use torch to remove it.

onlyflash944 · « **Reply #27 on:** October 26, 2009, 12:29:26 PM »

Quote from: Teg2boo on October 25, 2009, 10:10:13 AM

Quote from: Minor Threat on October 24, 2009, 02:55:53 PM
Quote from: Teg2boo on October 22, 2009, 07:49:33 PM
Quote from: Minor Threat on October 22, 2009, 07:09:57 PM
x2 Dropping the tank really isn't as bad as people make it out to be.

It's a real pain in the ass on a almost 20 years canadian car. Really Hoses are breaking, fuel pump cover is stuck in 1" of rust etc.

The worst part is when you change it because it leaks and you need torch to remove the bolts $:-\$

Otherwise, it's not that bad.

I've done it on all my 20 year old canadian cars. Learn to use vice grips?

I'm not only talking about bolts, fuel hose are all rusty and break in your hand when you try to remove them. Maybe its a problem on integra, but 2 of my 3 integra I had to change all the lines from the tank to inside the car.

One of the bolt holding the straps broke and the other I had to use torch to remove it.

fuel lines inside the car? that sounds safe

my eg civic fuel lines run under the car into the engine bay

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #28 on:** October 26, 2009, 01:43:02 PM »

Quote from: danwjmu on October 26, 2009, 12:30:21 PM

My CRX has the lines inside the cabin...

So do most Hondas.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #29 on:** October 26, 2009, 01:47:21 PM »

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