Topic: calling JD! Motronic Ecu shit (Read 8537 times)

MAJORAHOLE · « **on:** October 27, 2009, 09:51:28 AM »

lookin for some .xdf/damos files for a b6 audi a4 1.8t quattro project(if i can find this shit)
ive found some shit on the b5 s4 me7.1 ecu's, but none of the audi turds seem to respond to the question on if it will work the same with the 1.8t.
any info very welcome, thanks

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #1 on:** October 27, 2009, 09:59:32 AM »

Damos, huh?

MAJORAHOLE · « **Reply #2 on:** October 27, 2009, 10:17:25 AM »

yessir. i have never fucked with the vag ecus, but we just got a 05.5 jetta a while ago for my wife and i like it so i was thinking about getting an a4. so naturally i would have to get the turbo awd, but i want to find out as much as i can first. fuck paying $600 for a shitty chip/flash job

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #3 on:** October 27, 2009, 10:19:08 AM »

This gentleman *had* it in his file dir a few months ago, now gone. He might be one to ask, though. http://nyet.org/cars/files/

I suggest that you be careful of asking on some of the high-end forums as the Damos files are technically property of Bosch, and they are prone to legal action.

Do you think you could email me? I need you to resend me those naked pictures of your mom. Thanks. pgmfielf@gmail

MAJORAHOLE · « **Reply #4 on:** October 27, 2009, 10:24:27 AM »

ya, i found that site allready.
and thats why im asking here, where im pretty sure they aren't monitoring.
i'll have to shoot that dude an email

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #5 on:** October 27, 2009, 10:33:34 AM »

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showpost.php?s=abb1a93af17f77f2ae50ee4fa9be354d&p=3465981&postcount=2

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #6 on:** October 27, 2009, 10:35:35 AM »

Specifically,

http://www.bosch-motorsport.de/content/language2/html/3589.htm

nig nog · « **Reply #7 on:** October 27, 2009, 08:21:30 PM »

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f104/winols-1-500-damos-files-50034/

daos is for NIGGERS

slappynuts · « **Reply #8 on:** October 29, 2009, 07:54:58 AM »

Just a little FYI. Tuning a motronic car (especially the one you are looking at) is not anything like what you think its going to be. You cant just tune the fuel and timing maps and call it done. I am just now starting to get into the newer VAG /BMW stuff because of the crazy difficult tuning and I have been tuning motronic cars for years.

I will start a thread on how to do this when I get to that point.

MAJORAHOLE · « **Reply #9 on:** October 29, 2009, 11:32:11 AM »

Quote from: slappynuts on October 29, 2009, 07:54:58 AM

Just a little FYI. Tuning a motronic car (especially the one you are looking at) is not anything like what you think its going to be. You cant just tune the fuel and timing maps and call it done. I am just now starting to get into the newer VAG /BMW stuff because of the crazy difficult tuning and I have been tuning motronic cars for years.

I will start a thread on how to do this when I get to that point.

ya, i realize this. there are a shit-ton of maps on there, it will be a learning experience. mostly doing it because i dont want pussy k04 as my only possible upgrade. although now im lookin into modifiying the exhaust mani for use with a bib 16g.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #10 on:** October 29, 2009, 01:06:56 PM »

Quote from: slappynuts on October 29, 2009, 07:54:58 AM

Just a little FYI. Tuning a motronic car (especially the one you are looking at) is not anything like what you think its going to be. You cant just tune the fuel and timing maps and call it done. I am just now starting to get into the newer VAG /BMW stuff because of the crazy difficult tuning and I have been tuning motronic cars for years.

I will start a thread on how to do this when I get to that point.

Sounds like tuning 15 year old Fords. Joey is unimpressed.

MAJORAHOLE · « **Reply #11 on:** October 30, 2009, 09:50:39 AM »

Quote from: nig nog on October 27, 2009, 08:21:30 PM

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f104/winols-1-500-damos-files-50034/

daos is for NIGGERS

I cannot get that shit to install and crack right, i dont know wtf is goin on with it. follow the steps and the shit doesn't work

slappynuts · « **Reply #12 on:** October 31, 2009, 10:05:45 AM »

You have a KWP2000 tool or galletto? If you do I can get you an XDF for tuner pro. All I need to do is move the map locations around to match. You will also need the andy wittacker checksum program or be really fast and good with a hex editor.LOL

slappynuts · « **Reply #13 on:** October 31, 2009, 10:07:14 AM »

Quote from: Joseph Davis on October 29, 2009, 01:06:56 PM

Quote from: slappynuts on October 29, 2009, 07:54:58 AM
Just a little FYI. Tuning a motronic car (especially the one you are looking at) is not anything like what you think its going to be. You cant just tune the fuel and timing maps and call it done. I am just now starting to get into the newer VAG /BMW stuff because of the crazy difficult tuning and I have been tuning motronic cars for years.

I will start a thread on how to do this when I get to that point.

Sounds like tuning 15 year old Fords. Joey is unimpressed.

Actually it has more in common with the evoX then a ford.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #14 on:** October 31, 2009, 10:15:00 AM »

Not really. At least in the respect that any aspect is controlled by one to four maps, two to ten functions, and one to twenty scalars.

slappynuts · « **Reply #15 on:** October 31, 2009, 10:29:15 AM »

Quote from: Joseph Davis on October 31, 2009, 10:15:00 AM

Not really. At least in the respect that any aspect is controlled by one to four maps, two to ten functions, and one to twenty scalars.

Boy that sure sounds easy

The problem is the result of changing the load. Now to keep everything happy we need to change throttle position,all boost tables,and fuel/timing tables to match. Thats the hard part

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #16 on:** October 31, 2009, 10:42:48 AM »

You haven't tuned any Fords, then. If the injector slopes or MAF curve is arbitrarily or incorrectly changed the calculated load goes and gets itself fucked.

MAJORAHOLE · « **Reply #17 on:** November 02, 2009, 10:08:53 AM »

Quote from: slappynuts on October 31, 2009, 10:05:45 AM

You have a KWP2000 tool or galletto?

not yet, also head from some you can flash through the VAG-COM cable too, dont know how true that is though....

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #18 on:** November 02, 2009, 10:15:55 AM »

Some of the VAGina cables are "dumb" cables. Unlike the KWP2000+ that has an AVR inside of it "intelligently" handling communications, these are a simple FTDI USB to serial conversion chip and what you put in is what you get out, etc. If you read the WHOLE thread in the first link I posted there's quite a lot of info there, and the guy who's doing reflashing with the "dumb" cables has a site of his own and more info there, too.

slappynuts · « **Reply #19 on:** November 02, 2009, 05:59:29 PM »

I have the software loaded on my laptop and will be borrowing a cable so I can jack the file off a tuned t3/t4 1.8t GTI at the shop. I will let you know how that goes.

MAJORAHOLE · « **Reply #20 on:** November 03, 2009, 09:49:30 AM »

nice, if you can get that, you think i can get a copy to compare to stock?

Robb · « **Reply #21 on:** November 03, 2009, 10:55:10 PM »

Quote from: Joseph Davis on November 02, 2009, 10:15:55 AM

Some of the VAGina cables are "dumb" cables. Unlike the KWP2000+ that has an AVR inside of it "intelligently" handling communications, these are a simple FTDI USB to serial conversion chip and what you put in is what you get out, etc. If you read the WHOLE thread in the first link I posted there's quite a lot of info there, and the guy who's doing reflashing with the "dumb" cables has a site of his own and more info there, too.

The dumb cables as you refer to them, I recall something mentioned by the VW'er's in reference to the K-line restrictions in the scan tool cables, and the only diff. being a certain resistor in the k-line pin of the cable preventing alot of shit from being accessed (99-05 a4?) Ill ask around tomorrow cause you got me interested now damnit.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #22 on:** November 03, 2009, 10:58:46 PM »

Quote from: Robb on November 03, 2009, 10:55:10 PM

Quote from: Joseph Davis on November 02, 2009, 10:15:55 AM
Some of the VAGina cables are "dumb" cables. Unlike the KWP2000+ that has an AVR inside of it "intelligently" handling communications, these are a simple FTDI USB to serial conversion chip and what you put in is what you get out, etc. If you read the WHOLE thread in the first link I posted there's quite a lot of info there, and the guy who's doing reflashing with the "dumb" cables has a site of his own and more info there, too.

The dumb cables as you refer to them, I recall something mentioned by the VW'er's in reference to the K-line restrictions in the scan tool cables, and the only diff. being a certain resistor in the k-line pin of the cable preventing alot of shit from being accessed (99-05 a4?) Ill ask around tomorrow cause you got me interested now damnit.

Groooovy. I have an '00 A4, Whitman's built 04.5 GLI, and probably Schultz's S4 on the hook.

slappynuts · « **Reply #23 on:** November 04, 2009, 03:34:03 AM »

Are you using the wittacker program to checksum these or is these or is there a free hex editor that can be configured to do multiple checksums?

j.h.christ · « **Reply #24 on:** November 04, 2009, 06:14:15 AM »

i've got a spare ecu if you guys want one to fuck with. this thread is relevant to my interests.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #25 on:** November 04, 2009, 07:30:22 AM »

Quote from: slappynuts on November 04, 2009, 03:34:03 AM

Are you using the wittacker program to checksum these or is these or is there a free hex editor that can be configured to do multiple checksums?

I haven't ordered a cable yet. I get paid on a couple big jobs sometime between today and Friday, soooo.

Quote from: j.h.christ on November 04, 2009, 06:14:15 AM

i've got a spare ecu if you guys want one to fuck with. this thread is relevant to my interests.

You were supposed to send me one a long time ago, asshole.

j.h.christ · « **Reply #26 on:** November 04, 2009, 10:39:11 AM »

Quote from: Joseph Davis on November 04, 2009, 07:30:22 AM

Quote from: slappynuts on November 04, 2009, 03:34:03 AM
Are you using the wittacker program to checksum these or is these or is there a free hex editor that can be configured to do multiple checksums?

I haven't ordered a cable yet. I get paid on a couple big jobs sometime between today and Friday, soooo.

Quote from: j.h.christ on November 04, 2009, 06:14:15 AM
i've got a spare ecu if you guys want one to fuck with. this thread is relevant to my interests.

You were supposed to send me one a long time ago, asshole.

yes i know. i got lazy, forgot until i read this thread. if you need it, tell me.

MAJORAHOLE · « **Reply #27 on:** November 04, 2009, 02:11:07 PM »

so i read all that thread, and went to nefmoto.com and peeked around.

the more i read on the cable the more confused im getting.
i'm thinkin its just better to get the galletto? is that bench only, or in car too(with 13v)?

still havent had time to get digin into the win_ols stuff yet

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #28 on:** November 04, 2009, 04:46:08 PM »

Whatever you get, they are doing the same thing by the time they reach the OBD2 port.

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