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[Joseph Davis]

Humans are inherently greedy, selfish and ignorant.  What you're arguing for is social darwinism, and that my friend is fucked.

I'm a social Darwinist.   

It's always a tempting thought...and it might help to stimulate some natural selection in humans again...As things are right now, dumb people have more children than smart ones, we're all being slowly bred into stupidity.  But that doesn't make social darwinism RIGHT though. 

I've yet to see any other behavioral model that's any more RIGHT.

Call it enlightened social Darwinism, but I understand that all human insight is subjective and therefore flawed.  It is not my place to determine who is acceptable or not, and there is a learning curve comprised of stupid mistakes that everyone goes through regardless of intelligence so stupid actions do not neccesarily equal failure in a social Darwinist litmus test.  I'm fine letting other's fine their own path *as long as they leave me the fuck alone*, and that is my dividing line. 

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Seriously though, give me one good thing that would come out of the government not having a hand in regulating education.  ONE FUCKING THING.     OK.

Saving $59.2 Billion by getting rid of the Department of Education, who can't (and shouldn't) attempt to control local schools from their koosh offices in DC.

Hey, you can have a public education system, just don't tell me I still have to pay for it if I decide to send my kids to private school (while paying for both). Don't tell me choice and competition is a great thing in healthcare (haha), and refuse to give up the monopoly the government has on schooling. Don't tell me the public school system is the greatest shit ever, then have the President send HIS kids to private school, as well as many other scumbags who force the system on the rest of us. I'd love to throw your socialist ass into a wood chipper. Fucken idiot.

The government and the Dept of Education regulate education and set base standards.  The education system is largely run by the states.  If you have a problem, talk to your state senators or (national) senators.  I never said the public school system is the greatest shit ever.  It has more than its fare share of flaws and I've acknowldedged that.  What I said is that there needs to be standards in education.  If you can afford to send your kids to private school fine, send them there, and fist yourself-- and you've got no place in the argument.  I hope they are smart enough and make enough money to support your withered ass someday and throw you in a fucking nursing home.  OK, bitch about paying taxes.  SORRY, EVERYONE does it.  Including my socialist ass.  When you decide to live in this country, you pay taxes for public services, and that includes education.  Like I said, if you have a problem with the rates or paying it, take it up yourself.  The school district decides on the rates, and you can vote.  Go run a campaign fucktard.  You have nice oil lines, but don't call me an idiot, and I'd shove an oil line up your mom's ass before you got me near a wood chipper.

ALRIGHT.  tapping out of this thread.  How bout everyone goes and fucks themselves for a little while.  I'll do the same. 

you're a fucking liar.

When you decide to live in this country - BULLSHIT

this country was created to be free. faggots like you ruined it, because you're so inadequate in life you have to steal money from other people.

you are totally ignorant of the history of this country, and the reason it was founded. it wasn't founded so down trodden pathetic excuses for men like you could leech off other people.

BULLLLSHIT. we lived before this unconstitutional federal department

The United States Department of Education, also referred to as ED or the ED for (the) Education Department, is a Cabinet-level department of the United States government. Created by the Department of Education Organization Act (Public Law 96-88), it was signed into law by President Jimmy Carter on October 17, 1979 and began operating on May 4, 1980.

[Ntrain2k]

So when are you going to expatriate yourself Johnny? Since everyone in any kind of authority position is out to get you, you should just take your ball and go home.

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So when are you going to expatriate yourself Johnny? Since everyone in any kind of authority position is out to get you, you should just take your ball and go home.

i am home.

why do people like you say this all the time? i'm not the one trying to change this country to socialism.

the people who want socialism and big govt nanny should move to a country that already does it. and be poor slaves there.

this country was founded the way i want it, end of story

[Eggylshatch]

RandomMiss,

OH NOES TAXES!!!

Go throw a teaparty, faggot.

[Joseph Davis]

Johnny, your only recourse at this juncture in our country's history is to ask buk for some tips on domestic terrorism.  That'll show 'em who's boss.

[Ntrain2k]

So when are you going to expatriate yourself Johnny? Since everyone in any kind of authority position is out to get you, you should just take your ball and go home.

i am home.

why do people like you say this all the time? i'm not the one trying to change this country to socialism.

the people who want socialism and big govt nanny should move to a country that already does it. and be poor slaves there.

this country was founded the way i want it, end of story

Since "people like me" say this all the time, perhaps that is a hint at something.

And before you go into your usual "Your a sheep", "BAAAAA BAAAAAA BAAAAA", I'm probably one of the most conservative mother fuckers you will ever meet.

I, unlike you, do not live in a world of paranoia and tin foil.

[Stealthmode]

  Standards of education, hahahahaha. I guess it takes Billions of dollars to figure out what a 3rd grader should know by the end of the year. Oddly, schools all over the country are passing 3rd graders from above average, to fucking door knob status. The standards surely are working. lol.

  In your cradle to grave rant, you mention that ghetto schools aren't as good because of the teachers, and never once mentioned the fact that the majority of the kids' parents are fuckin worthless, but then socialists don't expect parents to play a role. We should have government centers right outside the delivery room that we can drop them off at. Then when they turn 18, all our kids will be Bill Gates. (college anyone?)
 
  When the revolution comes and all the government sponges are sitting on the curb crying, I'll be sure to make sloppy Joes.

[Joseph Davis]

So when are you going to expatriate yourself Johnny? Since everyone in any kind of authority position is out to get you, you should just take your ball and go home.

i am home.

why do people like you say this all the time? i'm not the one trying to change this country to socialism.

the people who want socialism and big govt nanny should move to a country that already does it. and be poor slaves there.

this country was founded the way i want it, end of story

Since "people like me" say this all the time, perhaps that is a hint at something.

And before you go into your usual "Your a sheep", "BAAAAA BAAAAAA BAAAAA", I'm probably one of the most conservative mother fuckers you will ever meet.

I, unlike you, do not live in a world of paranoia and tin foil.

+1

When I met Ntrain2k he was wearing an aluminum foil hat.  We had a long, involved discussion about the inadequacies of tin.  I vouch for him completely.

[Stealthmode]

And before you go into your usual "Your a sheep", "BAAAAA BAAAAAA BAAAAA", I'm probably one of the most conservative mother fuckers you will ever meet.

I, unlike you, do not live in a world of paranoia and tin foil.

  If you aren't worried about what's going on around you, or you're just not paying enough attention, who cares what your political thoughts are?

[Ntrain2k]

So when are you going to expatriate yourself Johnny? Since everyone in any kind of authority position is out to get you, you should just take your ball and go home.

i am home.

why do people like you say this all the time? i'm not the one trying to change this country to socialism.

the people who want socialism and big govt nanny should move to a country that already does it. and be poor slaves there.

this country was founded the way i want it, end of story

Since "people like me" say this all the time, perhaps that is a hint at something.

And before you go into your usual "Your a sheep", "BAAAAA BAAAAAA BAAAAA", I'm probably one of the most conservative mother fuckers you will ever meet.

I, unlike you, do not live in a world of paranoia and tin foil.

+1

When I met Ntrain2k he was wearing an aluminum foil hat.  We had a long, involved discussion about the inadequacies of tin.  I vouch for him completely.

ROFL!

[Ntrain2k]

And before you go into your usual "Your a sheep", "BAAAAA BAAAAAA BAAAAA", I'm probably one of the most conservative mother fuckers you will ever meet.

I, unlike you, do not live in a world of paranoia and tin foil.

  If you aren't worried about what's going on around you, or you're just not paying enough attention, who cares what your political thoughts are?

I do worry about what is going on around me and I pay rather good attention. I choose to get involved and assist in local politics for those who I feel represent me in the way I feel is intended. I do not "blame the man" for everything at every possible opportunity. I choose to actually do something about it.

[Joseph Davis]

Glad I could bring some humor to this thread.  

I really don't see how it's possible to educate the masses when the average person (teacher) is a moron.  With how the average parent has even less education than the average moron teacher, home schooling is even more of a failure - I can't tell you how many fundie's I've met who were taught to read a bible but can't calculate the change from buying a loaf of bread with a $5 bill.

What do we do now? Because I can't fucking stand all of you idiots populating my world.

[patsmx5]

[Ntrain2k]

Good analogy.

[snm95ls]

Glad I could bring some humor to this thread.  

I really don't see how it's possible to educate the masses when the average person (teacher) is a moron.  With how the average parent has even less education than the average moron teacher, home schooling is even more of a failure - I can't tell you how many fundie's I've met who were taught to read a bible but can't calculate the change from buying a loaf of bread with a $5 bill.

What do we do now? Because I can't fucking stand all of you idiots populating my world.

Stupid virus.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091114/ap_on_bi_ge/us_medicare_fraud

Govt: Medicare paid $47 billion in suspect claims
WASHINGTON – The government paid more than $47 billion in questionable Medicare claims including medical treatment showing little relation to a patient's condition, wasting taxpayer dollars at a rate nearly three times the previous year.

[snm95ls]

A government run program that wastes taxpayer money!!!

People that abuse the system!!!!


OMG, what a revelation!!!!

[random-strike]

ya totally, lets make another program to solve this problem