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Cop kills two 19yr olds with ricer fly-by
« on: November 22, 2009, 06:52:43 PM »

http://www.connpost.com/ci_13807681

words cannot describe how pissed this makes me, loading up on 762 the minute i turn 21

also suspended with FUCKING PAY aka vacation after blatantly murdering two people, WTF is this world coming to?

they also "found" some pot in the car, but have yet to release the vehicles to private investigators

what a crock of shit
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Re: Cop kills two 19yr olds with ricer fly-by
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2009, 07:02:43 PM »

thats certainly fucked up...but why the hell did they turn in front of him?
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Re: Cop kills two 19yr olds with ricer fly-by
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2009, 07:04:41 PM »

  They probably expected cars in a 40mph zone to not be doing 75.
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Re: Cop kills two 19yr olds with ricer fly-by
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2009, 07:05:59 PM »

  They probably expected cars in a 40mph zone to not be doing 75.

the dash cam car was doing 72, the other car

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Re: Cop kills two 19yr olds with ricer fly-by
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2009, 07:40:03 PM »

thats so lame

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Re: Cop kills two 19yr olds with ricer fly-by
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2009, 07:41:02 PM »

wow, he completley plowed right into that car. that poor couple probly didnt even see it coming
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Re: Cop kills two 19yr olds with ricer fly-by
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2009, 08:03:51 PM »

wow, he completley plowed right into that car. that poor couple probly didnt even see it coming

traveling at what 140ish feet/second

check left side, right, left agiain... taking 2 seconds to turn your head he was 250-350 feet away when they started moving. . . not ever seeing a car moving towards you at almost 100mph they misjudge, like anyone would, how soon it WILL come up and thats about it. . .
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Re: Cop kills two 19yr olds with ricer fly-by
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2009, 08:14:18 PM »

ive never had a problem judging how fast an oncoming car is travelling when taking a left turn. beside the point if he was really doing 94 which is believeable considering how fast he flew by the car that was going 70 then hes definatley gonna do some time for that.
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Re: Cop kills two 19yr olds with ricer fly-by
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2009, 08:18:24 PM »

That's the kind of behavior that is normally reserved for stupid teenagers to get busted by police for.  94mph on that road, holy shit.  I'm not one to talk, I've done my share of stupid shit, but I dont do anything around other cars.
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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2009, 08:24:07 PM »

boston post road is multiple lanes/ business area. ive been on that road a hundred times people always do 60+ on that road. 90+ is pretty excessive though.
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Re: Cop kills two 19yr olds with ricer fly-by
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2009, 08:33:06 PM »

  They probably expected cars in a 40mph zone to not be doing 95.

Fucking fry the jackbooted thugs.

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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2009, 09:02:58 PM »

90+ is pretty excessive though.

especially with out lights and sirens. 



I have no problem with law enforcement speeding, if they have the lights and sounds to let everyone know to get the fuck out of the way.  what REALLY pisses me off, and this just proves my point, is when they are flying like a bat out of hell and don't have shit turned on.  Without the lights and sirens, they are not an emergency vehicle and shouldn't speed just like any one of us.  How many times has a cop passed you on the interstate and you had NO idea they were the po-po until they were right beside you.  People can't constantly be on the look out for speeding cop cars and even if they are, they might not be able to identify them.  They abuse their privelages and now two teens are dead because of it.  They don't deserve to break the law any more than we do.


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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2009, 09:04:23 PM »

I guess its a bummer and all but it doesn't look like the kids turning had their signal on and there is no reason they couldn't have seen that car coming.
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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2009, 09:23:19 PM »

I guess its a bummer and all but it doesn't look like the kids turning had their signal on and there is no reason they couldn't have seen that car coming.

next time you turn left infront of someone and say to yourself, "self, I thnk I can beat this car" remember that you are using the hundreds of times before that you have done this that the car wasn't traveling 90 plus.

people make mistakes while driving.  it happens to everyone.  speeding like that is NOT a mistake
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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2009, 09:26:01 PM »

I guess its a bummer and all but it doesn't look like the kids turning had their signal on and there is no reason they couldn't have seen that car coming.

next time you turn left infront of someone and say to yourself, "self, I thnk I can beat this car" remember that you are using the hundreds of times before that you have done this that the car wasn't traveling 90 plus.

people make mistakes while driving.  it happens to everyone.  speeding like that is NOT a mistake

I have a thing called depth perception, perhaps you do not?
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Re: Cop kills two 19yr olds with ricer fly-by
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2009, 09:28:23 PM »

I guess its a bummer and all but it doesn't look like the kids turning had their signal on and there is no reason they couldn't have seen that car coming.

next time you turn left infront of someone and say to yourself, "self, I thnk I can beat this car" remember that you are using the hundreds of times before that you have done this that the car wasn't traveling 90 plus.

people make mistakes while driving.  it happens to everyone.  speeding like that is NOT a mistake

I have a thing called depth perception, perhaps you do not?

Like most women, the ones who drive your kids around 80% of the time, onlyflash944 has no depth perception.

BTW, I had forgotten what a prollonged exposure to a socialist country did to one's sense of personal responsability.

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« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2009, 09:39:19 PM »

I guess its a bummer and all but it doesn't look like the kids turning had their signal on and there is no reason they couldn't have seen that car coming.

next time you turn left infront of someone and say to yourself, "self, I thnk I can beat this car" remember that you are using the hundreds of times before that you have done this that the car wasn't traveling 90 plus.

people make mistakes while driving.  it happens to everyone.  speeding like that is NOT a mistake

I have a thing called depth perception, perhaps you do not?

Like most women, the ones who drive your kids around 80% of the time, onlyflash944 has no depth perception.

BTW, I had forgotten what a prollonged exposure to a socialist country did to one's sense of personal responsability.

Might be a bit of a news flash for you, but, Obongo does in fact have America turning more socialist than mother Russia, its making Canada look like a bunch of right wing extremists.

And its not my personal lack of personal responsibility that brings me to my thoughts of this accident, quite the opposite. Had this been myself in the seat of the car I simply would have not turned into the speeding car, its simple. Are you guys really serious when you say the officer is in complete fault here? If you lack depth perception, quick thinking and math skills, you should wait until all cars have passed before you make your left hand turn across a road with oncoming traffic.
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Re: Cop kills two 19yr olds with ricer fly-by
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2009, 09:45:46 PM »

I guess its a bummer and all but it doesn't look like the kids turning had their signal on and there is no reason they couldn't have seen that car coming.

next time you turn left infront of someone and say to yourself, "self, I thnk I can beat this car" remember that you are using the hundreds of times before that you have done this that the car wasn't traveling 90 plus.

people make mistakes while driving.  it happens to everyone.  speeding like that is NOT a mistake

I have a thing called depth perception, perhaps you do not?

Like most women, the ones who drive your kids around 80% of the time, onlyflash944 has no depth perception.

BTW, I had forgotten what a prollonged exposure to a socialist country did to one's sense of personal responsability.

Might be a bit of a news flash for you, but, Obongo does in fact have America turning more socialist than mother Russia, its making Canada look like a bunch of right wing extremists.

And its not my personal lack of personal responsibility that brings me to my thoughts of this accident, quite the opposite. Had this been myself in the seat of the car I simply would have not turned into the speeding car, its simple. Are you guys really serious when you say the officer is in complete fault here? If you lack depth perception, quick thinking and math skills, you should wait until all cars have passed before you make your left hand turn across a road with oncoming traffic.



Without said skills, hopw do you judge when it is safe?  There's a Catch-22 in your logic, dude.  And THAT's why you don't do 95 mph where there are sudden turnnoffs.

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« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2009, 09:51:11 PM »

I guess its a bummer and all but it doesn't look like the kids turning had their signal on and there is no reason they couldn't have seen that car coming.

next time you turn left infront of someone and say to yourself, "self, I thnk I can beat this car" remember that you are using the hundreds of times before that you have done this that the car wasn't traveling 90 plus.

people make mistakes while driving.  it happens to everyone.  speeding like that is NOT a mistake

I have a thing called depth perception, perhaps you do not?

Like most women, the ones who drive your kids around 80% of the time, onlyflash944 has no depth perception.

BTW, I had forgotten what a prollonged exposure to a socialist country did to one's sense of personal responsability.

Might be a bit of a news flash for you, but, Obongo does in fact have America turning more socialist than mother Russia, its making Canada look like a bunch of right wing extremists.

And its not my personal lack of personal responsibility that brings me to my thoughts of this accident, quite the opposite. Had this been myself in the seat of the car I simply would have not turned into the speeding car, its simple. Are you guys really serious when you say the officer is in complete fault here? If you lack depth perception, quick thinking and math skills, you should wait until all cars have passed before you make your left hand turn across a road with oncoming traffic.



Without said skills, hopw do you judge when it is safe?  There's a Catch-22 in your logic, dude.  And THAT's why you don't do 95 mph where there are sudden turnnoffs.

Incorrect, what I posted was detailed for a reason, please re read the portion in the second paragraph, last sentence, after the last comma.
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« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2009, 09:53:39 PM »

Dumbass cop shouldnt have been going that speed without his lights on.   Driver should have judged cops speed better, but this is the cops fault, plain and simple.

What if it were the other way around, with 2 hondas with one flying by the other at 90+, hitting a cop making a turn.


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Re: Cop kills two 19yr olds with ricer fly-by
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2009, 09:55:12 PM »

I guess its a bummer and all but it doesn't look like the kids turning had their signal on and there is no reason they couldn't have seen that car coming.

next time you turn left infront of someone and say to yourself, "self, I thnk I can beat this car" remember that you are using the hundreds of times before that you have done this that the car wasn't traveling 90 plus.

people make mistakes while driving.  it happens to everyone.  speeding like that is NOT a mistake

I have a thing called depth perception, perhaps you do not?

Like most women, the ones who drive your kids around 80% of the time, onlyflash944 has no depth perception.

BTW, I had forgotten what a prollonged exposure to a socialist country did to one's sense of personal responsability.

Might be a bit of a news flash for you, but, Obongo does in fact have America turning more socialist than mother Russia, its making Canada look like a bunch of right wing extremists.

And its not my personal lack of personal responsibility that brings me to my thoughts of this accident, quite the opposite. Had this been myself in the seat of the car I simply would have not turned into the speeding car, its simple. Are you guys really serious when you say the officer is in complete fault here? If you lack depth perception, quick thinking and math skills, you should wait until all cars have passed before you make your left hand turn across a road with oncoming traffic.



You're a fucking tard if you want to blame them. Who knows why they decided to turn; fact is it doesn't matter. They were 100% legal and within distance to make the turn. The cop was traveling at a high rate of speed that is hard to judge at night . Don't place any blame on them; the cops sorry ass is completely to blame.

"Anderson has been charged by State Police with two counts of second-degree manslaughter in the teens' deaths."

This is bullshit. If it was on the other hand and those two kids were flying and hit the cop they would have been charged with murder. I hope someone slits this dumbasses throat in jail.

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Re: Cop kills two 19yr olds with ricer fly-by
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2009, 10:00:04 PM »

I guess its a bummer and all but it doesn't look like the kids turning had their signal on and there is no reason they couldn't have seen that car coming.

next time you turn left infront of someone and say to yourself, "self, I thnk I can beat this car" remember that you are using the hundreds of times before that you have done this that the car wasn't traveling 90 plus.

people make mistakes while driving.  it happens to everyone.  speeding like that is NOT a mistake

I have a thing called depth perception, perhaps you do not?

Like most women, the ones who drive your kids around 80% of the time, onlyflash944 has no depth perception.

BTW, I had forgotten what a prollonged exposure to a socialist country did to one's sense of personal responsability.

Might be a bit of a news flash for you, but, Obongo does in fact have America turning more socialist than mother Russia, its making Canada look like a bunch of right wing extremists.

And its not my personal lack of personal responsibility that brings me to my thoughts of this accident, quite the opposite. Had this been myself in the seat of the car I simply would have not turned into the speeding car, its simple. Are you guys really serious when you say the officer is in complete fault here? If you lack depth perception, quick thinking and math skills, you should wait until all cars have passed before you make your left hand turn across a road with oncoming traffic.



Without said skills, hopw do you judge when it is safe?  There's a Catch-22 in your logic, dude.  And THAT's why you don't do 95 mph where there are sudden turnnoffs.

Incorrect, what I posted was detailed for a reason, please re read the portion in the second paragraph, last sentence, after the last comma.

Sir, let me explain to you why you are wrong.

It isn't that the people iin question lacked the cognitive skills you listed, they lacked the meta-cognitive function that those skills are based on.  They have no frame of referrence from which to discern when it is safe to, or not to, go.  You are asking the blind to see.

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« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2009, 10:04:11 PM »

Dumbass cop shouldnt have been going that speed without his lights on.   Driver should have judged cops speed better, but this is the cops fault, plain and simple.

What if it were the other way around, with 2 hondas with one flying by the other at 90+, hitting a cop making a turn.




When making a left hand turn across a roadway with oncoming traffic you are supposed to wait until it is safe to cross, the drivers CHOICE to save a few seconds of time to turn ahead of the oncoming vehicle was a poor choice, sure you can argue the issue was compounded by the excessive speed of the officer, but that does not negate from the main issue of the now deceased drivers decision to cross the street when he was not capable of determining if it was safe to cross the street or not. IF you are not capable of determining this you are supposed to wait until all traffic has cleared. This is something anyone in a first world country would have learned in their drivers education book pre licensing.

You guys are falling prey media boosted propaganda that the law enforcement is an evil entity, part of a socialist plot no doubt, enjoy the sheets over your eyes.
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« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2009, 10:08:46 PM »

I guess its a bummer and all but it doesn't look like the kids turning had their signal on and there is no reason they couldn't have seen that car coming.

next time you turn left infront of someone and say to yourself, "self, I thnk I can beat this car" remember that you are using the hundreds of times before that you have done this that the car wasn't traveling 90 plus.

people make mistakes while driving.  it happens to everyone.  speeding like that is NOT a mistake

I have a thing called depth perception, perhaps you do not?

Like most women, the ones who drive your kids around 80% of the time, onlyflash944 has no depth perception.

BTW, I had forgotten what a prollonged exposure to a socialist country did to one's sense of personal responsability.

Might be a bit of a news flash for you, but, Obongo does in fact have America turning more socialist than mother Russia, its making Canada look like a bunch of right wing extremists.

And its not my personal lack of personal responsibility that brings me to my thoughts of this accident, quite the opposite. Had this been myself in the seat of the car I simply would have not turned into the speeding car, its simple. Are you guys really serious when you say the officer is in complete fault here? If you lack depth perception, quick thinking and math skills, you should wait until all cars have passed before you make your left hand turn across a road with oncoming traffic.



Without said skills, hopw do you judge when it is safe?  There's a Catch-22 in your logic, dude.  And THAT's why you don't do 95 mph where there are sudden turnnoffs.

Incorrect, what I posted was detailed for a reason, please re read the portion in the second paragraph, last sentence, after the last comma.

Sir, let me explain to you why you are wrong.

It isn't that the people iin question lacked the cognitive skills you listed, they lacked the meta-cognitive function that those skills are based on.  They have no frame of referrence from which to discern when it is safe to, or not to, go.  You are asking the blind to see.

No, they could have waited until there was not any oncoming traffic, they chose otherwise and the result was fatal. Its too bad I suppose, but shit happens.

And before I get flack for the last comment I made in my previous post, are any of you really ignorant enough to think that you would have heard about this incident had the officer been a civilian?
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Re: Cop kills two 19yr olds with ricer fly-by
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2009, 10:15:30 PM »

Dumbass cop shouldnt have been going that speed without his lights on.   Driver should have judged cops speed better, but this is the cops fault, plain and simple.

What if it were the other way around, with 2 hondas with one flying by the other at 90+, hitting a cop making a turn.




When making a left hand turn across a roadway with oncoming traffic you are supposed to wait until it is safe to cross, the drivers CHOICE to save a few seconds of time to turn ahead of the oncoming vehicle was a poor choice, sure you can argue the issue was compounded by the excessive speed of the officer, but that does not negate from the main issue of the now deceased drivers decision to cross the street when he was not capable of determining if it was safe to cross the street or not. IF you are not capable of determining this

You completely fail to understand.  Sure the driver OBVIOUSLY wasn't capable of determining a large number of aspects being discussed here - what makes you think they weren't entirely confident they'd made the correct choice?

You guys are falling prey media boosted propaganda that the law enforcement is an evil entity, part of a socialist plot no doubt, enjoy the sheets over your eyes.

No, actually, I'm falling prey to my rather considerable knowledge of cognitive function and learning styles, based in no small part by a couple dozen books on the subject.  I couldn't add, subtract, multiply, or divide until the seventh grade, dude.  I was sitting in college calculus three years later, and it was pretty awkward when some days I wouldn't be able to do simple addition for whatever reason, because my brain was and still is flaky like that.

The subject of driving skill, and an individual's perception of their possession of it, is a classic example in texts discussing cognitive function.  You don't understand what I am talking about (I lost you at meta-cognitive) and therefore you argue on the presumption that I am wrong when it is you who in fact does not know what he's talking about.

Just saying.

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« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2009, 10:35:20 PM »



You guys are falling prey media boosted propaganda that the law enforcement is an evil entity, part of a socialist plot no doubt, enjoy the sheets over your eyes.

I socialist plot wouldn't put law enforcement in a negative light,

there are no sheets over my eyes, i feel the cop (who should be held to a higher standard, because of the extra rights they are given) should have not been going that fast.  Both cops over stepped the boundaries, both should be punished.

 If that were you and me, we'd both be charged with street racing, and homocide.

 Do you think that if the cop had had his POPO lights on, the driver would have been able to identify the cops speed alittle better??
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« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2009, 10:40:38 PM »

Dumbass cop shouldnt have been going that speed without his lights on.   Driver should have judged cops speed better, but this is the cops fault, plain and simple.

What if it were the other way around, with 2 hondas with one flying by the other at 90+, hitting a cop making a turn.




When making a left hand turn across a roadway with oncoming traffic you are supposed to wait until it is safe to cross, the drivers CHOICE to save a few seconds of time to turn ahead of the oncoming vehicle was a poor choice, sure you can argue the issue was compounded by the excessive speed of the officer, but that does not negate from the main issue of the now deceased drivers decision to cross the street when he was not capable of determining if it was safe to cross the street or not. IF you are not capable of determining this

You completely fail to understand.  Sure the driver OBVIOUSLY wasn't capable of determining a large number of aspects being discussed here - what makes you think they weren't entirely confident they'd made the correct choice?

You guys are falling prey media boosted propaganda that the law enforcement is an evil entity, part of a socialist plot no doubt, enjoy the sheets over your eyes.

No, actually, I'm falling prey to my rather considerable knowledge of cognitive function and learning styles, based in no small part by a couple dozen books on the subject.  I couldn't add, subtract, multiply, or divide until the seventh grade, dude.  I was sitting in college calculus three years later, and it was pretty awkward when some days I wouldn't be able to do simple addition for whatever reason, because my brain was and still is flaky like that.

The subject of driving skill, and an individual's perception of their possession of it, is a classic example in texts discussing cognitive function.  You don't understand what I am talking about (I lost you at meta-cognitive) and therefore you argue on the presumption that I am wrong when it is you who in fact does not know what he's talking about.

Just saying.

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You are so quick to cut me down because I do not acknowledge some of your off kilter comments, and also speedy to quantify the validity said comments by boosting your self worth/ego, I could make a million assumptions as to why, but won't. It would be nice if you would do the same, if you want to know if I know something, you can just ask, I'll answer your question with honesty, but to assume I lack knowledge on cognition because I do not make remarks is incorrect, I am not picking apart everything you or anyone else is saying here. I am trying to stay on topic, at least a bit ;)

Back to the drivers, I wouldn't doubt that they realized their poor decision before they died, but poor choices are made (the cop speeding was certainly one of them) and they died. Two poor decisions resulted in death, this shouldn't be such a shocker. What about more surprising things in life like people making good decisions and dying as a result of them?
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Re: Cop kills two 19yr olds with ricer fly-by
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2009, 10:44:50 PM »

Lol, Joey, what do you want to argue about here?

Pick a topic, I'll argue it with you.  You're too calm and need to be rattled - I'll eventually hit the right button.   :evil:

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Re: Cop kills two 19yr olds with ricer fly-by
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2009, 10:45:56 PM »



You guys are falling prey media boosted propaganda that the law enforcement is an evil entity, part of a socialist plot no doubt, enjoy the sheets over your eyes.

I socialist plot wouldn't put law enforcement in a negative light,

there are no sheets over my eyes, i feel the cop (who should be held to a higher standard, because of the extra rights they are given) should have not been going that fast.  Both cops over stepped the boundaries, both should be punished.

 If that were you and me, we'd both be charged with street racing, and homocide.

 Do you think that if the cop had had his POPO lights on, the driver would have been able to identify the cops speed alittle better??


I absolutely think it would be easier to determine the cops speed with his lights on, I would also agree that he SHOULD have had his lights on. But I do not view the speed of the officer being the difference between life and death for the teens, we don't know that the teens wouldn't have done the exact same thing if the officer was doing 45mph.
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Re: Cop kills two 19yr olds with ricer fly-by
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2009, 10:49:16 PM »

Lol, Joey, what do you want to argue about here?

Pick a topic, I'll argue it with you.  You're too calm and need to be rattled - I'll eventually hit the right button.   :evil:

Only problem would be is that I stop arguing when I get mad ;) A hot head is no state to be making decisions, accusations, holding arguements etc. I would like to bicker about cognitive learning though, however tonight isn't the best as I have to leave the shop soon and won't be around a computer for the rest of the night. Can we re schedule?
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