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The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« on: December 02, 2009, 08:37:45 AM »

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2683781

I think the turbo is overkill and will turn the car into another cruise missile, and I'm a hater on the mismatched engine bay ricer nonsense, but it's really quite interesting.

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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2009, 09:20:09 AM »

That's lovely
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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2009, 09:34:47 AM »

i use to have a 79 and 81 cvcc that i pictured something like that. but ended up just getting rid of them because they were more then a project just to look and run some what decent. but that is bad ass. and i agree on the cruise missle. funny he said his 94 civic was a cruise missle but doesnt think this will be. i wonder what he will do for suspension and traction.
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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2009, 09:57:18 AM »

What battery is that?
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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2009, 10:11:18 AM »

What battery is that?

how does a battery hold up to being on its side?  probably a expensive battery made to handle any angle you want and urination whenever you want. because that wouldnt fly with a normal battery.
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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2009, 10:23:28 AM »

Love the axle shaft,  I've been rocking a butt welded drive shaft for 3 years now :)
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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2009, 10:26:26 AM »

I wonder what the runout on these half-shafts are...?




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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2009, 11:26:58 AM »

so i guess all the weight from the weld n shit wouldn't matter?  I would think it has to be balanced fairly well for it not to destroy the tranny or bearings or some shit.

anyone want to educate me on why that's cool?
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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2009, 11:30:04 AM »

I think it would still handle well... again with a 3 psi wastegate spring.  That swap is way lighter than the cast block 1.8 that came out of it.

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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2009, 11:38:26 AM »

I don't know if the 2G is the same as the first gen in the aerodynamics department, but I know my '79 above ~ 140km/hr (85mph) would have so much front end lift you could barely steer it. If it was raining and you tried to approach those speeds you could actually get wheel spin. I loved the car, but high speed was it's nemesis.
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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2009, 11:39:27 AM »

but i mean i would think anything that's gonna rotate that fast would need to balanaced or youd get vibration or something.   ???
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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2009, 05:06:27 PM »

i have a 1980 civic on the lot clean as shit needs some motor work though ;D
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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2009, 06:18:04 PM »

What battery is that?

how does a battery hold up to being on its side?  probably a expensive battery made to handle any angle you want and urination whenever you want. because that wouldnt fly with a normal battery.


A dry cell you can mount at any angle becuase its not liquid filled
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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2009, 06:31:39 PM »

Im probly going to steal that paint booth idea, I used to make a DIY tent like he did, but i never though of having the fan flowing out with a filter on it like that.

Axle balance there kinda scares me....
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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2009, 06:33:28 PM »

Odyssey batteries can be left in any orientation and aren't too pricey.

I'm going to put my PC680 in compartment behind the seat...like the DIY.
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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2009, 06:33:53 PM »

Aahahaahaaaa.  It is a cool project, but those welds that attach the engine mount bucket to the chasis look pretty crappy.  I would be afraid of breaking that mount loose.

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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2009, 06:54:37 PM »

so i guess all the weight from the weld n shit wouldn't matter?  I would think it has to be balanced fairly well for it not to destroy the tranny or bearings or some shit.

anyone want to educate me on why that's cool?

I assumed that those extra weld spots on the shaft are to balance it. If not, I don't know what the hell they're for.
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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2009, 06:59:59 PM »

I was eye ball fucking that car a while ago, Its HR approved!
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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2009, 07:00:23 PM »

Drill through and fill with the welder.  It's extra structural support.

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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2009, 07:03:45 PM »

so i guess all the weight from the weld n shit wouldn't matter?  I would think it has to be balanced fairly well for it not to destroy the tranny or bearings or some shit.

anyone want to educate me on why that's cool?

I assumed that those extra weld spots on the shaft are to balance it. If not, I don't know what the hell they're for.

Plug welds.

The engineer in you is showing...

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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2009, 07:06:35 PM »

so i guess all the weight from the weld n shit wouldn't matter?  I would think it has to be balanced fairly well for it not to destroy the tranny or bearings or some shit.

anyone want to educate me on why that's cool?

I assumed that those extra weld spots on the shaft are to balance it. If not, I don't know what the hell they're for.

Plug welds.

The engineer in you is showing...

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after being ground down, I highly doubt they'll affect the balance much.


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There is no such thing as too much boost. You could have too little rod, piston, or sleeve. But never too much boost.

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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2009, 07:12:20 PM »

I wouldn't be too worried about the wieght as much as I would be any misalignment and or warping from welding.

Either is a pretty non issue I would think at the relatively slow speeds that an axle sees.

Probably will only see about 2000 RPM and with the small radius about the axis of rotatoin, I don't see it being that big of a deal.

I could be, and probably am, wrong though.

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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2009, 07:14:58 PM »

Some of the guys at the local driveshaft shop (Asheville Powertrain) can hand weld a driveshaft and they know by looking at and handling it if it needs balancing or not.  Pretty crazy.

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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2009, 07:20:23 PM »

Welds on his motor mount cups look scary, I can see the engine falling onto the highway at 90mph
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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2009, 07:33:51 PM »

Welds on his motor mount cups look scary, I can see the engine falling onto the highway at 90mph

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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2009, 07:38:43 PM »

I'm aware of what plug welds are (no I didn't learn it in college), didn't look like he had a shaft all the way through the sleeve to justify plug welds all along the length. He's also got a bunch of extra weld on top there, unnecessary for plug welds.
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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2009, 07:40:24 PM »

I wouldn't worry about the weight balance on those half-shafts, I'd be more concerned about their true. A bowed shaft is going to wipe out bearings. I don't think they weigh enough, spin fast enough, or have a large enough radius for the ounce (or w/e) that they out of balance to impact service life of the attached components.
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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2009, 07:40:32 PM »

I wouldn't be too worried about the wieght as much as I would be any misalignment and or warping from welding.

Either is a pretty non issue I would think at the relatively slow speeds that an axle sees.

Probably will only see about 2000 RPM and with the small radius about the axis of rotatoin, I don't see it being that big of a deal.

I could be, and probably am, wrong though.
Well, it depends how you do it. If the pipe he used was a very snug fit, and he slid if over the axle for several times the diameter of the axle, then the two axles should be very close to parallel. Making several small tach welds before welding will help prevent it from warping when welding. Like when I did my driveshaft, I did a tiny tach, then turned 180* and did another tiny tach, then 90*, tach, 180, tach. So then it's got four tiny tach welds at 90* apart. Then did 4 more between those. Ground them down some,  THEN I welded the entire thing out. Keeps it from warping when welding it out.

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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2009, 07:49:13 PM »

I did your mom, then turned her 180* and did her some more, then 90* and then 180*, so I did your mom at 90* intervals.  Then I let her cool off and did her in the spots in between.  Then I grinded on her some, THEN I really laid a fat bead all over her.

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Re: The only worthy HT thread of 2009
« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2009, 07:50:11 PM »

I did your mom, then turned her 180* and did her some more, then 90* and then 180*, so I did your mom at 90* intervals.  Then I let her cool off and did her in the spots in between.  Then I grinded on her some, THEN I really laid a fat bead all over her.

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