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General Category => Forced Induction => Topic started by: glustic on October 29, 2011, 05:58:46 PM

Title: POS DSM Project **DYNO SHEET ON PAGE 1**
Post by: glustic on October 29, 2011, 05:58:46 PM: (https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.craigupload.com%2Fuploads%2F10_30_2011%2Fimg_20111030_01.57.16.1875060.jpg&hash=48d71d7c7e62a1a1c8d711462709fdf3d62c0fec)

Ill find the pic that I had before it looked like this, and I will update this fucker a little later

**DYNO SHEET**
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Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: HiProfile on October 29, 2011, 07:26:41 PM: Wow a 4g63? So what, like 40 pounds of boost brah?
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 29, 2011, 10:32:52 PM: A 2G? Is that a 6 bolt swap, have you pinned the 7 bolt girdle to the block, or are you wasting our fucking time faggot?
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: glustic on October 29, 2011, 10:33:41 PM: Quote from: HiProfile on October 29, 2011, 07:26:41 PM
Wow a 4g63? So what, like 40 pounds of boost brah?

Hopefully 60...

Haha I just want a decent track car, and a car to drive during the winter. Im sick of spending $400 a month in gas
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: glustic on October 29, 2011, 10:34:28 PM: Quote from: Joseph Davis on October 29, 2011, 10:32:52 PM
A 2G? Is that a 6 bolt swap, have you pinned the 7 bolt girdle to the block, or are you wasting our fucking time faggot?

More than anyone elses im wasting yours sweetheart :-*
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 29, 2011, 10:43:52 PM: I hope you haven't gone through the bottom end in the last couple years as that rerolls the crankwalk dice. "Most" 7 bolts can handle 300whp, if it's been together for years without coming apart it can probably take 400.
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: HiProfile on October 29, 2011, 11:34:13 PM: Wasn't the crankwalk narrowed down to a very large run of bad bearings?
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 29, 2011, 11:42:53 PM: The 7 bolt problem is the main girdle isn't pinned to the block like every other girdle, ever.
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: HiProfile on October 30, 2011, 12:17:49 AM: lol wat? how the hell could they have missed that?

Even my cheap desk has alignment dowels. and it doesn't spin at 7000 rpm.
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: glustic on October 30, 2011, 01:24:35 AM: Quote from: Joseph Davis on October 29, 2011, 11:42:53 PM
The 7 bolt problem is the main girdle isn't pinned to the block like every other girdle, ever.

Thanks for the advice sir, and to tell you the truth I dont know if its a 7 or 6 bolt.

Flipnog said its a galant vr4 motor (well IM) so im ASSuming its a 7 bolt

While Im quoting you... Any other way to tune these fuckers other than dsmlink or standalone?
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 30, 2011, 05:47:27 AM: GVR-4 are 6 bolt motors. In that chassis it's like putting a heterosexual into skinny jeans and sending him undercover to the gaybar, but whatever.

98-99 plastic case ECU is reflashable via Tactrix cable. Also Evo8 or Lancer ECU.
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: glustic on October 30, 2011, 11:16:01 PM: Quote from: Joseph Davis on October 30, 2011, 05:47:27 AM
GVR-4 are 6 bolt motors. In that chassis it's like putting a heterosexual into skinny jeans and sending him undercover to the gaybar, but whatever.

98-99 plastic case ECU is reflashable via Tactrix cable. Also Evo8 or Lancer ECU.

Meh I cant fucking complain. I got the car for free.. Well..

I sold the civic for 4K + this car

Also, is the plastic housing black?

like this one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/97-98-99-MITSUBISHI-ECLIPSE-TURBO-ENGINE-COMPUTER-ecm-ecu-MD359402-EXCELLENT-/320782883780?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item4ab0265bc4#ht_500wt_1341 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/97-98-99-MITSUBISHI-ECLIPSE-TURBO-ENGINE-COMPUTER-ecm-ecu-MD359402-EXCELLENT-/320782883780?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item4ab0265bc4#ht_500wt_1341)
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: mrgreengenes on November 01, 2011, 01:56:51 AM: yes

also, the 6 bolt engine is identifiable by the oil pan. It will be flat across where the crank pulley is, whereas the 7 bolt ones will drop down in an arc.

and, the 7 bolts have 7 bolts.
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: glustic on November 05, 2011, 10:15:11 PM: Been putting this front mount on... Had my buddys shop put the front bumper and headlights in... And this is what I discovered
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Mother fuckers put bolts in under the headlights, so I had to pull the headlights (im a lazy fucker!)

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Painted the pipes black
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Trash can paint booth ftmfw!
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As she shits now...
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Funny thing is I bought these off a dude that took them off his 2g.. they dont fit worth a fuck without some fabbing..

Currently looking for a bigger turbo, injectors, black box ecu, tactrix 2.0, and fuel pump, and ill be getting tuned
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: Joseph Davis on November 08, 2011, 07:08:36 PM: You can run one of the Evo8 ECUs, or some of the 4cyl Eclipse/Lancer ECUs of that era. Search thoroughly before buying, and keep in mind you have to purchase the correct KS for the ECU ($58 at the dealer).

Just an idea as the right ECU for the '97 my boss owns has been a bit of a pain to find.
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: DasPoop on November 08, 2011, 09:08:01 PM: Open bov. Interesting.
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: glustic on November 14, 2011, 01:07:55 AM: So I do have a 6 bolt... score!

So I decided on getting the small 16g. Its actually in great condition.
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Install process:

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Got all the bolts off the o2 housing minus the one behind the o2 sensor, so off came the manifold.
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And the bitch bolt
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It was such a PITA that this is what bent....
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Yes your reading that right... its a BENT MAC wrench!

So I bought some PB Blaster, and off it came. And what did I find? A broken wastegate tophat! What the fuck has my cousin done to this car????

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All done:
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Lower IC piping on.. ran into this little problem... already ordered a 180 silicon coupler and some t bolts
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Decided to install this little gem
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And I got the slim fan wired in and mounted
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That is all the updates I have for now. I will keep you guys posted.
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: glustic on November 21, 2011, 01:52:24 PM: I wired up the fan right... but it didnt kick on when I drove it... Coolant was boiling when I got the car back home... So I grounded out a few wires going to the ECU and now when the ignition is ON both the radiator and condenser fans turn on

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Moar pics of outside
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Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: boosted 00 black si on November 21, 2011, 04:15:43 PM: looks good but u need a mans turbo :noel:
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: Corey on November 22, 2011, 12:53:49 PM: i thought it was gonna be a track car
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: glustic on November 23, 2011, 02:22:27 PM: Quote from: Corey on November 22, 2011, 12:53:49 PM
i thought it was gonna be a track car
Quote from: glustic on October 29, 2011, 10:33:41 PM
Quote from: HiProfile on October 29, 2011, 07:26:41 PM
Wow a 4g63? So what, like 40 pounds of boost brah?

Hopefully 60...

Haha I just want a decent track car, and a car to drive during the winter. Im sick of spending $400 a month in gas
Quote from: boosted 00 black si on November 21, 2011, 04:15:43 PM
looks good but u need a mans turbo :noel:

The turbo I want is a 20g its brand new for $500... I will be getting a bigger turbo + bigger injectors soon...

I got my tactrix cable, black box ecu, and fuel pump! I will update you fuckers as soon as I get that shit put in tonight
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: turbohf on November 24, 2011, 02:55:01 AM: you should go speed density and sell me your MAF/intake LOL... :Jew:
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: glustic on November 24, 2011, 09:16:34 PM: Quote from: turbohf on November 24, 2011, 02:55:01 AM
you should go speed density and sell me your MAF/intake LOL... :Jew:

Sure. $500
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: turbohf on November 24, 2011, 10:01:06 PM: slightly cheaper one on ebay...seriously. like 300bucks...some DSM people are crazy with there prices...
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: glustic on December 02, 2011, 05:28:08 AM: Updates havent updated this shit in a long time, but have done alot of work...

Decided to remove the 5 LBS of bullshit speaker wires...
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Fuel pump install...
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Good bye piece of shit fuel pump!
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Flashable ECU installed with basemap + launch control flashed..
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Ricer bumper finally removed (dumb fucks had it molded to the body with about 1/4 inch of fiberglass)
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Yes you see a shower curtain rod holding up the hatch... fuck you!

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And you can't forget the finishing touches... Gotta represent in Vegas (Heading down for a tune + drag strip tomorrow)
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Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: Ntrain2k on December 02, 2011, 07:57:40 AM: Quote from: glustic on December 02, 2011, 05:28:08 AM
And you can't forget the finishing touches... Gotta represent in Vegas (Heading down for a tune + drag strip tomorrow)
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WIN
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 02, 2011, 09:34:26 AM: You can't say win about a DSM. Gluestick has, however, earned a hearty GOOD LUCK!
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: Teg2boo on December 02, 2011, 09:44:02 AM: Is your cousin's name Bennett by any chance?
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: PhilStubbs on December 02, 2011, 11:32:25 AM: Quote from: Teg2boo on December 02, 2011, 09:44:02 AM
Is your cousin's name Bennett by any chance?

Building someone else's garbage DSM makes me think his name is Bennett.
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: glustic on December 02, 2011, 08:27:36 PM: I'm building my DSM..

Anyways made 227 whp on a mustang Dyno @ 14 lbs on a small
16g
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: ratcityrex on December 02, 2011, 08:42:32 PM: So how many lbs of boost did it take to get 227?
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: PhilStubbs on December 02, 2011, 09:00:21 PM: sounds about right power wise. when i tuned lowerit's car with he same turbo on the same boost it made about the same power
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 02, 2011, 09:02:05 PM: Probably midrange spoolfest, although the asshole in me wants to ask why you didn't turn it up, fgt?

Post dyno sheet?
Title: Re: POS DSM Project
Post by: glustic on December 02, 2011, 09:17:24 PM: Quote from: Joseph Davis on December 02, 2011, 09:02:05 PM
Probably midrange spoolfest, although the asshole in me wants to ask why you didn't turn it up, fgt?

Post dyno sheet?

Boost controller maxed out. I'm thinking the bov is leaking. I will post Dyno soon

1g bov bigger injectors and more boost to come.

I maxed out the stock injectors.
Title: Re: POS DSM Project **DYNO SHEET ON PAGE 1**
Post by: TurboVFR on December 26, 2011, 04:02:41 PM: Non sense, stock 450s can go to like 200% duty cycle, you can get atleast 260whp out of them.