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Re: Your sleeves...fuck 'em
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2009, 11:58:34 AM »

dam man thats sucks i hate boost spikes  :evil:
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Re: Your sleeves...fuck 'em
« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2009, 07:17:45 AM »

dam man thats sucks i hate boost spikes  :evil:


they are gifts from the boost gods :somb:


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Re: Your sleeves...fuck 'em
« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2009, 12:05:26 PM »

Does your EMS not have overboost protection? That shit's saved my ass a few times.

exactly what I was going to say.. my boost cut via ems is right above my limit.
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Re: Your sleeves...fuck 'em
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2009, 12:12:47 PM »

it probably would have survived if you tuned it up that high, even knowing you wouldn't want to be there, but just as a preventative measure. Next time just make sure you have a 3bar map sensor and set the maps rich where the creep would be.
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Re: Your sleeves...fuck 'em
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2009, 01:27:01 PM »

Tuner toys has ge sleeved blocks. Hit up craig and tell him you want the Rhmt discount. Im sure they will cut you a deal. I think a few months back they were doing sleeved blocks for like $800 now they are $1000. Worth a shot anyways.
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Re: Your sleeves...fuck 'em
« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2009, 01:42:58 PM »

Tuner toys has ge sleeved blocks. Hit up craig and tell him you want the Rhmt discount. Im sure they will cut you a deal. I think a few months back they were doing sleeved blocks for like $800 now they are $1000. Worth a shot anyways.
really? thats a pretty damn good price. ill have to hit him up
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Re: Your sleeves...fuck 'em
« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2009, 01:44:20 PM »

Does your EMS not have overboost protection? That shit's saved my ass a few times.

With higher boost, you'll definately want the ems to crack the WG prematurely, if it has that setting. What ems do you have? Boost cut as always been terribly violent for me, like slamming on the brakes. I also use ign cut or fuel+ign, fuel cut is risky and not as violent. Any fuel that 'hid' in the ring pack or by the HG seal will still burn after hte fact.


I can't see hte pics from here, is it just the sleeves? Blocks & vitaras are cheap -- when the rod goes it gets annoying.
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Re: Your sleeves...fuck 'em
« Reply #37 on: March 29, 2009, 01:47:03 PM »

Does your EMS not have overboost protection? That shit's saved my ass a few times.

With higher boost, you'll definately want the ems to crack the WG prematurely, if it has that setting. What ems do you have? Boost cut as always been terribly violent for me, like slamming on the brakes. I also use ign cut or fuel+ign, fuel cut is risky and not as violent. Any fuel that 'hid' in the ring pack or by the HG seal will still burn after hte fact.


I can't see hte pics from here, is it just the sleeves? Blocks & vitaras are cheap -- when the rod goes it gets annoying.
i was using Crome Gold. i had boost cut set, but it didnt save me. when it worked in the past, it damn near throws you through the windshield...

im working on a 3/4bar map sensor and then tuning higher portions in an attempt to have a small security net
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Re: Your sleeves...fuck 'em
« Reply #38 on: March 29, 2009, 02:37:50 PM »

sleeve it you Ryan

if Missy can buy shit at art shows then you should be able to sleeve the block so you dont have to take it apart again  :yes:

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Re: Your sleeves...fuck 'em
« Reply #39 on: March 29, 2009, 02:42:00 PM »

sleeve it you Ryan

if Missy can buy shit at art shows then you should be able to sleeve the block so you dont have to take it apart again  :yes:
lol, she went with $20 cash and i got $7 of it back  :noel:

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Re: Your sleeves...fuck 'em
« Reply #40 on: March 29, 2009, 03:54:28 PM »

i was using Crome Gold.


well theres your problem.... :P
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Re: Your sleeves...fuck 'em
« Reply #41 on: March 29, 2009, 04:35:55 PM »

Does your EMS not have overboost protection? That shit's saved my ass a few times.

With higher boost, you'll definately want the ems to crack the WG prematurely, if it has that setting. What ems do you have? Boost cut as always been terribly violent for me, like slamming on the brakes. I also use ign cut or fuel+ign, fuel cut is risky and not as violent. Any fuel that 'hid' in the ring pack or by the HG seal will still burn after hte fact.


I can't see hte pics from here, is it just the sleeves? Blocks & vitaras are cheap -- when the rod goes it gets annoying.

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Re: Your sleeves...fuck 'em
« Reply #42 on: March 29, 2009, 05:03:46 PM »

no. the best boost control is none at all. its a d series.

build boost blow repeat.

he cracked a stock sleeve. not a big deal. grab a short block and do it again.
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Re: Your sleeves...fuck 'em
« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2009, 05:07:50 PM »

How much power were you pusing before this event happened?
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« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2009, 05:53:02 PM »

How much power were you pusing before this event happened?
low 300 range
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Re: Your sleeves...fuck 'em
« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2009, 07:24:19 PM »

yeah that was fun....too bad it turned out to be more than just the gasket.
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Re: Your sleeves...fuck 'em
« Reply #46 on: March 29, 2009, 08:49:11 PM »

either gonna be another no-tec 75.5mm SRP setup and re-use pistons, no-tec 75mm setup with another set of used SRPs i have, Vitara setup, or just say fuck it and get a sleeved block

gonna have to check the funds after i get my taxes O0

Does your EMS not have overboost protection? That shit's saved my ass a few times.
ya, it was set for 21.5psi. probably happened too fast for the ecu to catch it. hell, i dunno

No, operator error.  If you had maxed out your MAP sensor with shop air and looked at your datalogs I bet it would read less than 21.5 psi.  You should have set your boost cut to 21 and it would have caught you.

Breaking 300 whp with a pumpgas D16 is pushing the limits, sir.

Get yourself a $14 Motorola 4 bar and don't worry about this sort of thing happening to you again.

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Re: Your sleeves...fuck 'em
« Reply #47 on: March 29, 2009, 08:53:20 PM »

Breaking 300 whp with a pumpgas D16 is pushing the limits, sir.

so my 350 or bust build is looking more like bust already?



and nice work on that block.  good to see the arps hold
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Re: Your sleeves...fuck 'em
« Reply #48 on: March 29, 2009, 09:02:50 PM »

You can hit 350, sure, but in my experience past 300 a 9:1 CR D16's timing requirement falls off quick which is a sign that the fuel is running out of cooling ability.  Set 350 as high boost and don't hit it every day.

Alternately, work on flow through the head and drop the CR down.  Cam, valves, play fisty with the intake ports, basically drop time and dollars on the problem.

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« Reply #49 on: March 29, 2009, 09:06:36 PM »

No, operator error.  If you had maxed out your MAP sensor with shop air and looked at your datalogs I bet it would read less than 21.5 psi.  You should have set your boost cut to 21 and it would have caught you.

Breaking 300 whp with a pumpgas D16 is pushing the limits, sir.

Get yourself a $14 Motorola 4 bar and don't worry about this sort of thing happening to you again.
already have a new map sensor on the way for when i get it back together.

yes it was partially operator error, i dont deny that. i should have taken better precautions
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Re: Your sleeves...fuck 'em
« Reply #50 on: March 29, 2009, 09:10:01 PM »

You never know these things until you run across them.  It's not like there's a decent writeup for any of this shit, and the software doesn't warn you about it's limitations.

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« Reply #51 on: March 29, 2009, 09:21:53 PM »

You never know these things until you run across them.  It's not like there's a decent writeup for any of this shit, and the software doesn't warn you about it's limitations.


no but they should.  i might actually pay for it then
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« Reply #52 on: March 29, 2009, 09:52:35 PM »

You never know these things until you run across them.  It's not like there's a decent writeup for any of this shit, and the software doesn't warn you about it's limitations.
well thats why im glad you put your .02 in. something to think about for future builds
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Re: Your sleeves...fuck 'em
« Reply #53 on: March 30, 2009, 02:49:03 AM »

already have a new map sensor on the way for when i get it back together.

This time, don't max it out at 29psi. I'll make sure it at least holds 30psi before you get it.

BTW I never thought about the sensor limit. Not a bad idea to test the sensor electronicly if you're going to take it for all it's worth.
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Re: Your sleeves...fuck 'em
« Reply #54 on: March 30, 2009, 04:39:59 AM »

that is a righteous kill
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