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Re: RHMT oil manifold.
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2009, 09:06:34 PM »

the concern isn't how much vtec uses but if there is enough oil flowing to the head to keep the cams lubed well ;)



Isn't that a separate supply from between cylinder 2 and 3?

Ya, the Vtec feed line is completely separate from the oil supply line to the head.  There is a small port under the middle cam cradle between 2-3, I believe.
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Re: RHMT oil manifold.
« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2009, 05:59:57 PM »

It uses pressure (~36psi min), not volume - it would be like a very small leak, less than a turbo, since the rocker pins/arms/shafts don't use o-rings. D-series motors get oil from the colum directly above the oil filter - it goes to the head, does a sharp 90* over to the end to the solenoid, then is distributed through holes in the rocker shafts. For the dohc vtec blocks, its at the corner and does the same thing after the solenoid. Once the solenoid closes (on both), that pressure is released out into the head via relief port in the top corner; since you can't compress liquid, its just a little splash.


Think about it though, do you think Honda would divert 50% of the oil volume away from the bearings when they need them the most?
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Re: RHMT oil manifold.
« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2009, 01:33:08 AM »

It uses pressure (~36psi min), not volume - it would be like a very small leak, less than a turbo, since the rocker pins/arms/shafts don't use o-rings. D-series motors get oil from the colum directly above the oil filter - it goes to the head, does a sharp 90* over to the end to the solenoid, then is distributed through holes in the rocker shafts. For the dohc vtec blocks, its at the corner and does the same thing after the solenoid. Once the solenoid closes (on both), that pressure is released out into the head via relief port in the top corner; since you can't compress liquid, its just a little splash.


Think about it though, do you think Honda would divert 50% of the oil volume away from the bearings when they need them the most?

So are you saying my setup won't work?
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Re: RHMT oil manifold.
« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2009, 01:38:54 AM »

No I'm saying nigga stole my bike.

No I'm saying it should work. I'd still use as large a feed as possible, at least match the 1/4" fitting ID. I guess you can give it a shot, worse case you don't have VTEC when its warmed up 100%.
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Re: RHMT oil manifold.
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2009, 02:20:43 AM »

No I'm saying nigga stole my bike.

No I'm saying it should work. I'd still use as large a feed as possible, at least match the 1/4" fitting ID. I guess you can give it a shot, worse case you don't have VTEC when its warmed up 100%.

Lol, ok.  All lines to and from are -4 AN.  I'm not changing anything.  Im rocking a Holset so I dont have a restrictor which would have increased the pressure.  Should know by Sunday.
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Re: RHMT oil manifold.
« Reply #35 on: April 03, 2009, 12:59:39 PM »

You should put a restrictor inline for your holset.
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Re: RHMT oil manifold.
« Reply #36 on: April 03, 2009, 07:24:11 PM »

You should put a restrictor inline for your holset.

It didn't come with one in the factory Dodge 5.9L
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Re: RHMT oil manifold.
« Reply #37 on: April 03, 2009, 07:32:21 PM »

pop rivets make great oil restrictors
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Re: RHMT oil manifold.
« Reply #38 on: April 03, 2009, 08:01:01 PM »

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Re: RHMT oil manifold.
« Reply #39 on: April 03, 2009, 08:33:57 PM »

pop rivets make great oil restrictors

So does drilling out a small philips head screw and placing it between the male and female -4AN fitting.  I use a 1/16" bit which is approximately 0.063". It works great every time and does leak with the AN fittings.  But in my case, I found that the Holset doesn't need an oil restrictor.  The 60spi it sees is good.  I used this trick for the last few years of my journal bearing turbos.
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Re: RHMT oil manifold.
« Reply #40 on: April 03, 2009, 08:42:49 PM »

pop rivets make great oil restrictors

So does drilling out a small philips head screw and placing it between the male and female -4AN fitting.  I use a 1/16" bit which is approximately 0.063". It works great every time and does leak with the AN fittings.  But in my case, I found that the Holset doesn't need an oil restrictor.  The 60spi it sees is good.  I used this trick for the last few years of my journal bearing turbos.

The Branch on Thursday is good.  That's their busy night.  I don't go there much though.  Every other night is slow from what I've heard.
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Re: RHMT oil manifold.
« Reply #41 on: April 06, 2009, 01:09:22 AM »

btw i asked about where the oil is coming from because the oil at the pressure sender is NOT FILTERED. your pulling oil from before the filter and sending it directly to your cams/turbo? buy an Endyn/GE plate adapter...
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Re: RHMT oil manifold.
« Reply #42 on: April 06, 2009, 01:27:11 AM »

btw i asked about where the oil is coming from because the oil at the pressure sender is NOT FILTERED. your pulling oil from before the filter and sending it directly to your cams/turbo? buy an Endyn/GE plate adapter...

it is on a d series.
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Re: RHMT oil manifold.
« Reply #43 on: April 06, 2009, 02:07:20 AM »

btw i asked about where the oil is coming from because the oil at the pressure sender is NOT FILTERED. your pulling oil from before the filter and sending it directly to your cams/turbo? buy an Endyn/GE plate adapter...

More details.  I have a fitting at the back of my block where the stock oil pressure sensor was.
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Re: RHMT oil manifold.
« Reply #44 on: June 11, 2009, 12:45:25 AM »

BUMP!!!  This oil manifold does not work.  I believe its not sending enough oil to the Vtec solenoid.  Vtec kicks in and out and sounds like poo.  I can't see it being good for the car either.

Back to a sandwich plate it is.
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Re: RHMT oil manifold.
« Reply #45 on: June 11, 2009, 12:48:09 AM »

Damn what did I say ??

Ive  heard of people running into vreck not working when you pull it from the stock oil sender location. I dont think it flows enough oil for the head and the turbo at higher rpms.
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Re: RHMT oil manifold.
« Reply #46 on: June 11, 2009, 01:32:01 AM »

Had to try it.  Never said you were wrong...

Just posted this bump so that others wouldn't try this.  I have another theory as to why it didn't work.  Ill post pics in a few days.  But yes, I'm pretty sure your right!
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Re: RHMT oil manifold.
« Reply #47 on: June 11, 2009, 11:47:08 AM »

I understand, sometimes you just have to try it for yourself to find out that your wrong.
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Re: RHMT oil manifold.
« Reply #48 on: June 11, 2009, 01:31:49 PM »

Clean the mani out and use it for Vaccuum.
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Re: RHMT oil manifold.
« Reply #49 on: June 11, 2009, 07:55:45 PM »

I understand, sometimes you just have to try it for yourself to find out that your wrong.

Not totally wrong yet buddy.  Ill keep you posted.
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