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[runsfromdacops]

so imlooking in to a tig welder to do some alum. and ss stuff on my car. i really want a inverter tig and have looked at all the big us brands and just cant justify spending 3k+ on a welder for home use if i had a shop i could see it but this will jujst be for home/car stuff.
i have been looking at the everlast 250ex power tig spicificly.

just wanted to see what you nig thought of it.

http://www.everlastgenerators.com/PowerTig%20%20250EX-351-pd.html

-alex

[crxvtec91]

For the price its not worth it.

[narfdanarf]

Dude you can come over and use my tig whenever you want if you buy the argon and filler metals.  Don't waste your money on that thing.

[N1 Andy]

Buy a used Syncrowave for that price dude.  And where's Justin's axles jewboy? I took responsibility for that shit, don't fuck me

[runsfromdacops]

im going up to dave tursday and was going to drop them off on my way back  ,


i want a inverter tig not a syncrowave. i need a tig at my house for all kinds of little projects, its hard to cut/fab stuff at home where all my tools are and then bring it somewhere to be welded by some one.its a pain in the ass. it would make things far easyer on me to just get a cheap welder to do small stuff on the car. mybe down the road ill get a nice miller or lincon i just cant spend 4K+ on one right now.

[Passenger]

im going up to dave tursday and was going to drop them off on my way back  ,


i want a inverter tig not a syncrowave. i need a tig at my house for all kinds of little projects, its hard to cut/fab stuff at home where all my tools are and then bring it somewhere to be welded by some one.its a pain in the ass. it would make things far easyer on me to just get a cheap welder to do small stuff on the car. mybe down the road ill get a nice miller or lincon i just cant spend 4K+ on one right now.

Dude, keep your eyes peeled for a used 200dx on craigslist, I see complete setups popup every now and than for 2-3k. Don't waste your cash on that Chinese shit. Millers are deadly reliable, and their tech support and parts dept. is awesome. A dynasty will last you the rest of your life, and should you need any parts they will actually be available.

[runsfromdacops]

yep i have seen syncrowaves for 2.5-3 range used on CL. but i dont really want a tranformer welder, i want the arc control of a inverter. i have also looked at thermual arc but i dont like the way the menu is set up.and they started out at around the same price as the everlast but cought on with ppl and the price is now in the 2.8k range. but still the same michine.

[Passenger]

yep i have seen syncrowaves for 2.5-3 range used on CL. but i dont really want a tranformer welder, i want the arc control of a inverter. i have also looked at thermual arc but i dont like the way the menu is set up.and they started out at around the same price as the everlast but cought on with ppl and the price is now in the 2.8k range. but still the same michine.

No I am talking dynasty200dx, not syncro. I've got a couple of them, I love them, inverter is the only way to roll.

[Random Hero]

yep i have seen syncrowaves for 2.5-3 range used on CL. but i dont really want a tranformer welder, i want the arc control of a inverter. i have also looked at thermual arc but i dont like the way the menu is set up.and they started out at around the same price as the everlast but cought on with ppl and the price is now in the 2.8k range. but still the same michine.

Dude, the TA185 is the way to go. Nates dad sells welders and can get you whatever you want at cost. The menu is easy on the TA185 you just have to read the instructions through once. The settings page comes blown up and laminated too.

[runsfromdacops]

ask him what he can get me a 185 for... and i need your help tomarow to reprogram my lc1 so dave can do my tune thursday.

[runsfromdacops]

shit i would have thought that these welder would be more excepted here with all you niggers,this is the home of the low $$ shit. wtf

[Passenger]

shit i would have thought that these welder would be more excepted here with all you niggers,this is the home of the low $$ shit. wtf

Long term low dollar=Miller, because you will give it your kid when you are too old to use it anymore.
Short term low dollar=CDM tig, because it will break and than you will have to buy another one.

[Random Hero]

ask him what he can get me a 185 for... and i need your help tomarow to reprogram my lc1 so dave can do my tune thursday.

Sorry man, I worked all day and hung out with the lady after. If you need the reprogramming cable i put it on my porch on the smokers chair. your more then welcome to swing by and grab it.

[t_cel_t]

even though thats seems like a good deal for the features, guess what, unless your welding shit on the space shuttle or an sr71 you wont even fuck with those adjustments let alone have enough skill to see benefits from them.

get a cheap arc welder/gas block/ torch/ ect and it will be years before you are good enough to warrant an upgrade.

[runsfromdacops]

i like haveing a high amount of ac balance adjustment and the pulse is vary nice to have also

[narfdanarf]

Which a syncrowave has all of.  and the frequency adjustment is completely unnecessary for 98% of the population.  Unless you are welding a fuck ton IE production work you won't be a good enough welder to tell the difference between a transformer machine and a inverter.

[Passenger]

The syncrowaves have a decent balance control for all hobby based uses. I run more production based stuff so having a finer balance control, and especially frequency control and high speed pulse is awesome. But I can still make text book welds with a scratch start off a high frequency stack on an old buzz box, its just not quite as good, or efficient. I still recommend waiting for a used dynasty200dx to pop up over anything chi com.

[runsfromdacops]

the syncrowave needs a high input amp to run, like 105 i think. and the pulse is a option. and the duty cycle is 40%? and the dynisty is only 20%

on the up side i looked at a lincon 255,might get that if i can get it for <1500$
sadly the everlast is better spec for spec with miller/lincon. if it was made in the usa it would be 6K+

[Passenger]

the syncrowave needs a high input amp to run, like 105 i think. and the pulse is a option. and the duty cycle is 40%? and the dynisty is only 20%

on the up side i looked at a lincon 255,might get that if i can get it for <1500$
sadly the everlast is better spec for spec with miller/lincon. if it was made in the usa it would be 6K+

What functions does it have that the dynasty does not?

[runsfromdacops]

                                250ex           200dx
ac frec.                   5-250hz           20-250hz
ac balance               10-90%           30-99%
duty cycle             60%@250       20%@200
2t/4t                        yes                   no
watercooled torch      yes                  no
wave control               no                  4 modes
wall volt/amps          220/36                 220/not listed
stick amp/duty%       200/35%                   200/ 20%
110 volt input               no                       yes
spot timer                    yes                         no
warentty                       5 year                  3 year
price                           1600$                   4500$
mande in the usa          no                          yes
local servies                  no                          yes


im not saying on is better then the other but for the price its hard to beat.......

[Passenger]

                                250ex           200dx
ac frec.                   5-250hz           20-250hz
ac balance               10-90%           30-99%
duty cycle             60%@250       20%@200
2t/4t                        yes                   no
watercooled torch      yes                  no
wave control               no                  4 modes
wall volt/amps          220/36                 220/not listed
stick amp/duty%       200/35%                   200/ 20%
110 volt input               no                       yes
spot timer                    yes                         no
warentty                       5 year                  3 year
price                           1600$                   4500$
mande in the usa          no                          yes
local servies                  no                          yes


im not saying on is better then the other but for the price its hard to beat.......

200dx has 2t/4t, as well as a spot timer.
The 200dx can be had with an aircooled torch, foot pedal and ground for less than $3500 new, used you can get the whole shebang for about $2500.
Also what voltage is the 20% duty cycle at, and is that AC or DC? My 200dx doesn't get used for any production so I haven't pushed it much but it make sa huge difference which voltage and phase you are using.
If chinese amperage and duty cycle ratings are anything like the HP ratings I'd figure you'll be safe at about half of what they advertise.

[runsfromdacops]

200/20% at 18v, the price is what is on the miller site.i have been looking for a used one and have seen one any were near 3k used or new. i dont know if the rating are right or not but thats what is on both sites.shit i wish i bought a TA185 when they were 1700$ now they are 2.7k bs

[Passenger]

Box for $2874 shipped:
http://cgi.ebay.com/MILLER-DYNASTY-200DX-AC-DC-TIG-WELDER-907099011-/350282356389?cmd=ViewItem&pt=BI_Welders&hash=item518e7496a5

Pedal for $185.26 shipped:
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Foot-Control-Pedal-Miller-TIG-Welder-RFCS-5-/260538022177?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3ca946b921

Get 25ft torch, 150amp aircooled is around $160, the different 200amp aircooled torches are in the $250 area. Ground cables are cheap, $50.

Grand total shipped to your door for all NEW parts is going to be around $3300.

[narfdanarf]

Duty cycle on the syncrowave is 100% at 140 amps continuous, if you're pulsing then it goes to almost 200amps, then goes down from there, the current draw is like 35 amps at that duty cycle. 

Just like everything CDM in the world they will not put out the duty cycle they claim or even the amperage, so I would take that with a grain of salt. 

[runsfromdacops]

pre millers site 150amp/26v/40%  at this amp it draws 54 amps from the wall.so at 200 it should be around 70ish amps from the wall.

and the 200dx still needs reg/hose and wall plug and cord wich is probuly a miller only part.so now we are looking at closeer to the 3500-3700 range befor i can lay a bead

[Passenger]

pre millers site 150amp/26v/40%  at this amp it draws 54 amps from the wall.so at 200 it should be around 70ish amps from the wall.

and the 200dx still needs reg/hose and wall plug and cord wich is probuly a miller only part.so now we are looking at closeer to the 3500-3700 range befor i can lay a bead

Reg and hose will range from $35-100. $90 buys a good Victor reg/flowmeter, which I would recommend. Chinese ones are $35.
The wire and plug is not a miller part, its wire and plug, you can buy that shit at home depot.

[narfdanarf]

I just think for the $1800 that a sync 200 costs brand new you can't beat it with a fucking cdm welder, and the extra 1500 that a dynasty costs isn't worth it to 95% of the population.

[Random Hero]

i'm telling you TA185 alex...

I forget what DC the 185 is but i think its 20, and i could sit down for hours strait and weld. Never got it to kick off or do anything funky, other then the torch getting to hot and melting in my hands..

$2030 OTD with the same tank markus has. Thing comes READY TO WELD. its the exact setup I used to have.

[runsfromdacops]

good price, it is a nice welder but it looks like the frc. and balance are not adjustable in tig its set 60hz/50% cleaning.i know the ta welds nice but i dont like that you cant adjust that stuff.

[Passenger]

The TA really has fixed balance? I can see fixed frequency but fixed balance on AC is kinda lame.