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[danz]

ive seen a CTV or Global video about him on youtube.  i didnt know he was so close to you guys.  next dyno day ill head over.  haha

[danz]

well i chopped another coil off the front springs.  so thats 2.5 total coils chopped off.

should help with a little more negative camber.

painted the front bumper too.

anyone coming to mission tonight?

[92CXyD]

I likes.  ;D :yes:

[crxvtec91]

Congrates on 10's!

[ratcityrex]

This isnt a bullshit question, but why would you want more negitive camber? Is it so when you launch your car lifts in the front and goes to 0* of camber?

[crxvtec91]

This isnt a bullshit question, but why would you want more negitive camber? Is it so when you launch your car lifts in the front and goes to 0* of camber?

Yes

[HiProfile]

danz, you should check out www.futurevehicletechnologies.com
it's just down the street from the shop.  Their original high MPG car (Ale) was a dual vtec D15B with a pre-turbo (VW k03) injectorator, and went to a vaporizer box then the engine.  I seem to remember it had a total of 5 injectors; 1 pre-turbo for gas mileage, and 4 in the regular spots, for power.  Running off a Motec.  It was totally cool, and George loves to talk about it.  I figure he'd be a great guy to get info to making a re-imagined CRX HF.

Phil

That wouldn't be hard at all with something like ectune. Use a fast relay, preferably a 4-pole double-throw (4pdt), to change injectors & fuel maps. A GPO would activate the relay's coil, which would then feed a signal back to an ecu input to switch to secondary maps (no pulse width/injector mismatch even with a slow power relay). You could set it to change to the MPG injectorator(s) for certain loads above certain vehicle speeds. I wanted to build a MPG car, but after getting mid-30's in a sohc rocking >1bar of boost...I laid that idea to rest. Gas isn't that bad here.

[danz]

Congrates on 10's!

thank you sir.


the car only managed to squeeze out a 10.97 @ 131mph.  it was spinning so bad... it was retarded.  1st and 2nd didnt exist.  i had to pull 8 degrees of timing from 2nd to get it to hook up.  shit was retarded!!

injector duty cycle was at 103% at 9000rpm.  limiter was set at 9600rpm sooo.... ya.  going to need to upgrade for next year.  im on the look out for some 1600cc's or greater.  also a fuel pressure regulator would help.  but once i add the water meth i should be a little more ok for fuel since the methanol will compensate. 

anyways bigger slicks and a cage are in the works.

heres a random pic and a vid of the 10.9 pass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Wr6uvvQpY

[ratcityrex]

Right on man, What size slick are you on right now? 23"?

[Joseph Davis]

im on the look out for some 1600cc's

God, no.

http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/import-high-performance-fuel-injectors/?itemid=1244

Best shelf price I've seen on them so far. 

also a fuel pressure regulator would help. 

I'd run a large exit stocker gently crushed in a vise for 55 psi base pressure.  Everything else is china or $Aeromotive$

[dvst8r]

The Sewell has a good hookup on the FIC1000's.

[danz]

Right on man, What size slick are you on right now? 23"?

yeah still on the 23x8x13's and they just arent cutting it anymore.  cant even pull low 1.7's its a complete nightmare. 

im on the look out for some 1600cc's

God, no.

http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/import-high-performance-fuel-injectors/?itemid=1244

Best shelf price I've seen on them so far. 

also a fuel pressure regulator would help.

I'd run a large exit stocker gently crushed in a vise for 55 psi base pressure.  Everything else is china or $Aeromotive$

thats a good price i just know i can find some 1600's for cheap but i would really like to run some newer injectors to take advantage of the spray pattern.  i got some time to save up anyways.... been thinking long and hard about running alcohol (probably methanol) and running non-intercooled.  the fucking ice box pisses me off so much.  love and hate thing.

im using a large exit stock FPR right now.  i might have to give your idea a try.  how much am i looking at crushing this thing to get roughly 55psi base (ps, is base with the car idling or with key on engine off?)  1/8"  1/4"?

The Sewell has a good hookup on the FIC1000's.

tommy boy to the rescue.  gonna start putting $50 a pay day aside. 

[Joseph Davis]

41 psi is stock FPR base, pump running regardless of the engine running, with vacuum hose off.   I'd plumb a second stock FPR before going aftermarket, can't argue with proven success.

Tommyboy FTW, except when he bumps those chops about being SE when he's merely swampland.

[ApexSilver06MR]

run 450's and plug the return line. 

[ratcityrex]

run 450's and plug the return line. 

Vice grips :yes:

[Aero]

im on the look out for some 1600cc's

God, no.

http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/import-high-performance-fuel-injectors/?itemid=1244

Best shelf price I've seen on them so far. 

also a fuel pressure regulator would help. 

I'd run a large exit stocker gently crushed in a vise for 55 psi base pressure.  Everything else is china or $Aeromotive$

Sorry to clutter up the thread, but I have a question.  I have a set of Delphi 1000s in my DSM, I don't like the way it idles and I've been hearing so many good things about some of the newer stuff.

Would you have any recommendation for me?  I'm looking at 1000-1200cc, E85, and switching to saturated to get rid of the stock resistor box and also avoid the interference issues that come with the PWM drivers in the MS.

Those Id1000's sound good, but I just can't justify spending that much.  It sounds like some of these others work just as well, but I'm not sure what to look for exactly. Any recommendations or should I go with my original plan of a staged injection setup?  I'm not sure how to go with that since I'm going to be using one of the "cyclone" dual runner intake manifolds. Tapping into one runner and putting more/most(depending on which set I run in which location) of the fuel through one valve, not sure if that will cause a lot of headaches or not.  The other thought is installing the extras in the intake pipe, since I'm not running an IC to help with cooling, sort of water meth effect. Then I get into possible cylinder imbalance etc.

[Joseph Davis]

Your current injectors will idle smooth if you target 13.5-13.8 AFR at idle.  E85, requiring a larger amount of fuel across the board, may or may not idle perfectly at stoich but they will idle better than they currently do on gas (ASSumption here).

[danz]

i love beating up on mitsufeces' at the track. 

[Aero]

I've never actually run them on gas just e85.   the car has always had a miss at idle, through stock ecu,ms, different coilpacks, power transistors two motor, different injectors. It does get better richer and the bigger inj made it much worse. I need to check wiring again.

Hoping to avoid having to idle richer and at least somewhat maximize fuel economy.

[Aero]

i love beating up on mitsufeces' at the track. 

Not mine.





Its never running long enough to make it to the track.

[danz]

haha.  touche

[Joseph Davis]

 

[danz]

little update on this


i ditched the water to air, went air to air.

turned the boost up to 25psi and went a little easier on the tune.

got some 24.5's and started breaking axles and taking out trannys with broken axles.  (nightmare) haha chris m u told me so

so far no internal transmission failures, but lots of broken axle stubs in the LSD...

im preloading like a jew. but not in the good way.


made the manifold a true front mount


the car made 499.7whp on C16/25psi and put down some pretty OK numbers.  best 60ft is 1.61, i was shooting for a 1.5 but started breaking shit pretty regularly...


heres some vids for 2011.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_PbXihf3JY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AzZp4yPZIw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0otaUgEF_A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0V1diTMVbs

[theidealone]

God damn Danz. Shit gets out of the hole so nice. 10.5 @ 133? Nicely done!!! Congrats.

Oh, and hey JD. I just saw your post about the 5-0 injectors. And then saw that they have 2000s. Any input on those? For E85 of course. And I sure as fuck cant afford $1000 for 4 injectors (ID2000s).  So those look like a nice solution.

Sorry to thread jack.

[Joseph Davis]

Yes.

I approve.

[crxvtec91]

FUCK YEA!

[boosted 00 black si]

i like

[danz]

thanks for the props everyone its been a lot of work.  i got really sick of swapping trannys near the end of it!  the first y8 tranny just wore out and started popping outa gear.  the next z6 tranny i had got destroyed when the CV joint broke and the joint ended up cracking the flanged area the axle seal sits...  the next tranny i got was a z6 and so far so good.  survived a few broken axles.




i forgot to mention i upgraded the fuel system as well.  i added an inline walbro, wired it and the existing intank walbro to battery power with a relay, and ditched the precision 788's and went with some FIC low imp 1250cc injectors.  i also made the switch to an aftermarket -6AN fuel filter and ditched all the banjo fittings in the system.  and with this came a GE fuel rail and chinese Aeromotive knockoff regulator.

no fuel issues at all this year

only issue i had this year was trying to figure out the fucking EBC.  it never even comes close to spooling my turbo up as quick as my MBC and its less consistent as well.

look how lazy the boost comes in!

the green line at the bottom is boost... (this is the actual datalog from my 10.51 pass)

[crxvtec91]

Wheres JD when you need him, or Tom.

[HiProfile]

Post a screenshot of your EBC settings. There's EBC Activation which I have set to 0.13psi, then Fast Spool is set to 100%, and Wastegate Activation is set to 6psi. I presume you don't have a boost leak pre-turbo, and the wg firering is in place.

For mine it means when it sees a cunt hair of boost (0.13psi) it seals the WG's bottom port (100% closed solenoid) so the valve is closed, then won't start normal PWM until at least 6psi. If your lowest boost is 18psi, you might want to choose 14psi for activation. The farther activation is to target, the softer the TQ hump. IE less of a light-switch for power. The closer it is, the faster you get full boost.

The thing about fast-building boost is sometimes you make more power when it comes on a little slow. If you look at a boost-vs-torque graph, torque will still climb drastically for 200-500rpm after full boost (after the wg opens). Basically this is where less backpressure is better than more boost.


One thing about the china regulators, the kind using teflon for the diaphragms suck at reacting. Watching the one on my flow bench makes it clear they suck.