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[RotaryGeek]

It's like $6 here, but I smoke cigars so it's cheaper too.

[MTZ]

   

or roll your own cigarettes

you dont have to stop, just smoke less

[chris]

My vice is smoking. Been trying to quit for a while now, that will save another $45 a month in smokes.

Damn, smokes are $9 a pack here.

3.39 at the liquor store in the hood here.

[theidealone]

I was gonna say. 45 a month in cigarettes? Not since 1995. My wife and I spend about 300 combines on cigarettes. Fuck I wanna quit again. That, or go back to rolling Buglers. That shit was less than $2 a bag w/ papers, I learned to roll and drive stick at the same time, and the bag would last me a week at the least.

[PhilStubbs]

i spend nothing on cigarettes and have no clue what they cost anywhere. never known anything different

[ratcityrex]

I quit when they hit 4.25 a pack. That was 6 years ago.

[mandrel-bends]

Good day care costs more then your woman will likely make. Factor in her resentment for loss of time with the kids and it's a massive lose-lose for you. Work harder.

Seems like this is a constant issue with me. I pay all the bills, she stays home and watches the kids. But its to the point now where after the bills are paid we have like $200 left till the end of the month (paid once a month). Its time for her to get a job. But with two kids, she will have to make a decent amount of $$$ to cover daycare and some extra for us. And before someone says it, no she won't work the corner. If i can't pay her to get some, no one else will either.

[TunerToys]

Take charge of your finances.  Downgrade vehicles if you've got new shit.  Exercise thrift and self denial on some things.  Have her sit down with you over the monthly bills so she sees the way money goes through the house.  Tell her you need her help to get ahead so that you BOTH have an easy retirement, as well as yearly vacations and god help you a date night every week or three away from the kids.

Straight up troof dat.

I am working that right now.  Just downgraded TunerWife from a Ford F150 Crew Cab, to a 90 Wagovan. I downgraded myself from an 03 Element, to a CRX (which is actually an upgrade).  Liability insurance on both, storage insurance on the others.  We went from about 28MPG combined, up to 50MPG combined. Saving ourselves about 400 month in fuel alone.

If she is staying at home, have her sit somebody elses kid along with yours.  Daycare is expensive, she can find someone to watch.  No more than one tho, or at least no more than you can deal with having in your home.  Also, put her to work clipping coupons, and shopping/cooking frugally.  That means fewer boxed and frozen foods.  No microwavable shit, the cost per meal is crazy.  Also, no garbage snacks for the kids.  If there is fruit and veggies in the house, and not garbage, they magically eat the fruit and veggies.  With the right coupon action and timing, she can cut your grocery bills by 60%.  Not joking.  Check out "Coupon Sense", it just takes time, which she has plenty of if she is staying home.  Have her start winterproofing the home, sealing up windows and doors.  More blankets, less furnace.

Being a good wife and homemaker is a full time gig, and can make a home run very cheaply and smoothly. You just got to get her motivated. 

If you make her work, and bring on a bunch of other headaches in the process, you are not going to be any happier.

[Passenger]

Work harder.

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[RotaryGeek]

Take charge of your finances.  Downgrade vehicles if you've got new shit.  Exercise thrift and self denial on some things.  Have her sit down with you over the monthly bills so she sees the way money goes through the house.  Tell her you need her help to get ahead so that you BOTH have an easy retirement, as well as yearly vacations and god help you a date night every week or three away from the kids.

Straight up troof dat.

I am working that right now.  Just downgraded TunerWife from a Ford F150 Crew Cab, to a 90 Wagovan. I downgraded myself from an 03 Element, to a CRX (which is actually an upgrade).  Liability insurance on both, storage insurance on the others.  We went from about 28MPG combined, up to 50MPG combined. Saving ourselves about 400 month in fuel alone.

If she is staying at home, have her sit somebody elses kid along with yours.  Daycare is expensive, she can find someone to watch.  No more than one tho, or at least no more than you can deal with having in your home.  Also, put her to work clipping coupons, and shopping/cooking frugally.  That means fewer boxed and frozen foods.  No microwavable shit, the cost per meal is crazy.  Also, no garbage snacks for the kids.  If there is fruit and veggies in the house, and not garbage, they magically eat the fruit and veggies.  With the right coupon action and timing, she can cut your grocery bills by 60%.  Not joking.  Check out "Coupon Sense", it just takes time, which she has plenty of if she is staying home.  Have her start winterproofing the home, sealing up windows and doors.  More blankets, less furnace.

Being a good wife and homemaker is a full time gig, and can make a home run very cheaply and smoothly. You just got to get her motivated. 

If you make her work, and bring on a bunch of other headaches in the process, you are not going to be any happier.

All that stuff you listed is already being done. Believe me. I just found out im getting an extra $465/month for taking one online class from the VA (through my dads benifits). and if i take two its $995 a month. So im going back to school.

[klyph]

A prison worker going to school on the taxpayer dole through a military program so his wife can stay home and shit out kids. God bless 'Murika

[Joseph Davis]

lol

[rawr]

A prison worker going to school on the taxpayer dole through a military program so his wife can stay home and shit out kids. God bless 'Murika

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