Topic: Which would you build? (Read 10503 times)

jdmhatchracer94 · « **on:** December 20, 2011, 03:57:56 AM »

okay buddy picked up a ef hatch for dirty cheap. Now gotta figure out what engine to build. have a ls,z6,22b2 sittin around. just curious as to which people would like to see? everything will be rhmt style no fancy fuckin plates and shit all fluxcore and jb weld fab.

PhilStubbs · « **Reply #1 on:** December 20, 2011, 07:39:17 AM »

I vote d2b, I'm planning to do that in my ef soon.

ratcityrex · « **Reply #2 on:** December 20, 2011, 09:58:43 AM »

do a z6 with a evo 16g

crxvtec91 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 20, 2011, 10:57:20 AM »

F2B

k20 rods and pistons arp studs and nog boost!

jdmhatchracer94 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 20, 2011, 11:59:56 AM »

Quote from: crxvtec91 on December 20, 2011, 10:57:20 AM

F2B

k20 rods and pistons arp studs and nog boost!

isn't that used in the f23? was goin h22 rods with dsm strokers like ash.

Towdogg · « **Reply #5 on:** December 20, 2011, 12:29:07 PM »

Id just do the ls.... Mine was fast on 10psi... $:-\$

turbohf · « **Reply #6 on:** December 21, 2011, 01:30:13 AM »

Quote from: ratcityrex on December 20, 2011, 09:58:43 AM

do a z6 with a evo 16g

jdmhatchracer94 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 21, 2011, 02:02:22 AM »

Quote from: Towdogg on December 20, 2011, 12:29:07 PM

Id just do the ls.... Mine was fast on 10psi... $:-\$

gettin kinda bored with the ls at 18psi

ratcityrex · « **Reply #8 on:** December 21, 2011, 02:12:03 AM »

Turn that Bitch to 25 then!

theidealone · « **Reply #9 on:** December 21, 2011, 02:23:34 AM »

I would go D or B. Unless your plans are for a drag car. I dont really see the necessity of the B tranny for a street car with <500whp. Its just a lot of extra work and headache, for a better tranny. If you want the better gears, and are building a 400ish whp (I dont know your goals, didnt really read), go B series, or suffer with the EX/SI gears and a cheap single slam.

Oh, and if you did go D2B, adapter plate isnt necessary. But I kinda doubt youll get it done with JB Weld or Devcon. And sure as fuck wont with a Fluxcore, unless you shell out a pretty penny for Speed Factory adapter components...

jdmhatchracer94 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 21, 2011, 04:19:48 AM »

naw I say yours on the d2b. not payin for a kit. I can weld aluminum not pretty but can do it. leanin towards the f2b. I have never even driven a car with a f series. power goals are as much as I can get.

malichite · « **Reply #11 on:** December 21, 2011, 12:32:58 PM »

Shit, you aren't far from me. If you need some aluminum welding, just holla at a nog! AJ can vouch

ratcityrex · « **Reply #12 on:** December 21, 2011, 02:11:08 PM »

Quote from: malichite on December 21, 2011, 12:32:58 PM

AJ can vouch

jdmhatchracer94 · « **Reply #13 on:** December 22, 2011, 12:23:03 AM »

I will/ when you gettin rid of the first gen? f2b in that would be sick

chris · « **Reply #14 on:** December 22, 2011, 03:35:34 PM »

hit up the local junkyards for an old school cable integra transmission.

HiProfile · « **Reply #15 on:** December 22, 2011, 11:00:35 PM »

Fab up mounts for a hydro B, buy the hydro pedals in classifieds, go f2b. If you go w/o an adapter plate you have that much more room for a turbo. Actually I'm not sure if the EF has enough room before the firewall.

Even if you got a basic F, an adapter, and a cable LS trans it would be fun. The extra torque would make the gearing okay, and some F22's can do good peak HP on stock blocks.

jdmhatchracer94 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 23, 2011, 01:05:43 AM »

was thinkin a 88-89 teg tranny but isn't that closer to a d? if I went that route I would have to do a plate. The b series think I can do without but a d I have no choice unless I weld extra material to the bell housing.

also found this looks pretty sketchy http://www.b20vtec.com/forums/st-ann...thout-kit.html

ratcityrex · « **Reply #17 on:** December 23, 2011, 01:10:05 AM »

88-89 teg trans are a d pattern.

chris · « **Reply #18 on:** December 23, 2011, 03:22:17 AM »

By old school I meant 90-91 a1 trans they are 20 years old

If you go d series I think making the 86-89 d16a1 trans work in a 88-91 chassis the way to go. The one d series transmission that doesnt suck

theidealone · « **Reply #19 on:** December 24, 2011, 12:52:05 AM »

86-89 D16A1 tranny will work, but take custom mounts. If I gotta fab some shit, it better be a B series tranny.

Fuck 90-91 small spline trannies. 92-93. Same spline as a hydro tranny, and same internals. Much better as far as options. You really just need a case. Then pick up hydro B16, LS, and GSR trannies, and start fuckin with your gear stacks.

jdmhatchracer94 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 24, 2011, 02:17:38 AM »

I have three hydro ls tranny's. waiting for my buddy to pick up a new tranny for his da and I get the fucked up b16 one thats in it.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #21 on:** December 26, 2011, 11:30:48 AM »

Quote from: ratcityrex on December 23, 2011, 01:10:05 AM

88-89 teg trans are a d pattern.

As in D15A3, which was a last model year renaming of the Si trim EWx, sure it is. If you think it's 88+ D-series pattern you're smoking something.

Four bolts match up, requires drilling/tapping the starter hole, and a clutch from mars to make it work. Oh, yeah, make the mounts.

Cool transmission for beans, IMO. 86-89 gearset with 4.06 FD from a 2G Prelude and a B-series LSD is a great combo for boost, but it's a bit of work and the net effect is ??. I like how strong the gearset "looks" but there's a lot in material selection and actual design that I don't know anything about, and there hasn't been a decade of kids blowing these things up to know the limits of the box. Best case scenario you do a lot of work and fucking around to end up with something as strong as a B-series box (although theoretically a little stronger due to the built in cuff).

I wouldn't bother unless you were building a classic 80s Honda.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #22 on:** December 26, 2011, 11:32:36 AM »

Also, F22A non-VTEC to D is my vote for poor boy NA builds.

jdmhatchracer94 · « **Reply #23 on:** December 26, 2011, 12:20:16 PM »

yeah the 86-89 tans was just a idea if it was gonna go in a pre 88 civic/crx.

snm95ls · « **Reply #24 on:** December 26, 2011, 01:03:54 PM »

Quote from: Joseph Davis on December 26, 2011, 11:32:36 AM

Also, F22A non-VTEC to D is my vote for poor boy NA builds.

Did Bisi hack the Grand Wizard's account?

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #25 on:** December 26, 2011, 01:50:12 PM »

Quote from: snm95ls on December 26, 2011, 01:03:54 PM

Quote from: Joseph Davis on December 26, 2011, 11:32:36 AM
Also, F22A non-VTEC to D is my vote for poor boy NA builds.

Did Bisi hack the Grand Wizard's account?

No. Go through a couple setups that break 200whp by 6500 rpms off of pennies compared to what a B/H would cost to build. Admittedly, H22 with Type-S cams would do the same and is sort of affordable if you want a turn-key sway... but you can get F22A free.

snm95ls · « **Reply #26 on:** December 26, 2011, 02:02:24 PM »

Quote from: Joseph Davis on December 26, 2011, 01:50:12 PM

Quote from: snm95ls on December 26, 2011, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: Joseph Davis on December 26, 2011, 11:32:36 AM
Also, F22A non-VTEC to D is my vote for poor boy NA builds.

Did Bisi hack the Grand Wizard's account?

No. Go through a couple setups that break 200whp by 6500 rpms off of pennies compared to what a B/H would cost to build. Admittedly, H22 with Type-S cams would do the same and is sort of affordable if you want a turn-key sway... but you can get F22A free.

I was trying to give you a ration of shit, and you blocked it. Asshole.

I hate to admit it, but the though of mixing H and F parts for a relatively cheap larger displacement mill is appealing even though they are boat anchors.

Needs moar K24 frank action.

<leaving>

jdmhatchracer94 · « **Reply #27 on:** December 26, 2011, 04:41:31 PM »

fuck yo k. no k talk round here we broke niggaz

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #28 on:** December 26, 2011, 05:39:15 PM »

Quote from: jdmhatchracer94 on December 26, 2011, 04:41:31 PM

fuck yo k. no k talk round here we broke niggaz

They aren't as expensive as you'd think.

snm95ls · « **Reply #29 on:** December 26, 2011, 05:51:12 PM »

Quote from: Joseph Davis on December 26, 2011, 05:39:15 PM

Quote from: jdmhatchracer94 on December 26, 2011, 04:41:31 PM
fuck yo k. no k talk round here we broke niggaz

They aren't as expensive as you'd think.

Especially the non TSX K24s. They are really affordable these days.

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