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Re: BROKEN CAM!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~1/17/10~~~~~~~~Ratcityrex's B18A1 BROKEN CAM
« Reply #240 on: January 18, 2010, 07:28:21 AM »

Hopefully Delta will make good on replacing it, being that it is still never used.
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Re: BROKEN CAM!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~1/17/10~~~~~~~~Ratcityrex's B18A1 BROKEN CAM
« Reply #241 on: January 18, 2010, 10:32:10 AM »

looks like u bolted it down to tight :noel:
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Re: BROKEN CAM!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~1/17/10~~~~~~~~Ratcityrex's B18A1 BROKEN CAM
« Reply #242 on: January 18, 2010, 10:37:35 AM »

So tell me, how do you tigten the caps? Did you run all the bolts down by hand, then turn them all say, 1/4 turn at a time in a pattern progressinig outward till they're all run down flush? Or did you just start tightening one of the caps down? Cause if you don't do it evenly, you put a ton of stress on the cam and it could certainly be enough to bend an aluminum cap or break the cam.

I did this with 1/4" ratchet, And yes, I did the the whole center and working my way out back and forth.

So when you started at the center and worked your way out, how much did you tighten each bolt? Not trying to be an ass, just wondering if you did this wrong or if the cam was actually defective, as I've never seen a cam fail that way that didn't involve human error.
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Re: BROKEN CAM!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~1/17/10~~~~~~~~Ratcityrex's B18A1 BROKEN CAM
« Reply #243 on: January 18, 2010, 10:38:47 AM »

I don't know how a cam breaks like that - they are pretty easy to break, but it's always at the side of the lobe and not across it.   I'd say there's something wrong with the cam before Delta touched it, so don't get your hopes up, but call and ask wtf anyway.  

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Re: BROKEN CAM!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~1/17/10~~~~~~~~Ratcityrex's B18A1 BROKEN CAM
« Reply #244 on: January 18, 2010, 12:15:29 PM »

well how do you over tighten bolts that arnt tight pat? i have installed probably 20+ sets of cams and never  had a problem, yes pat i know how to install cams, pat im not trying to be an ass eather by saying this.
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Re: BROKEN CAM!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~1/17/10~~~~~~~~Ratcityrex's B18A1 BROKEN CAM
« Reply #245 on: January 18, 2010, 12:34:20 PM »

Well i just got off the phone with scott at delta and he said that its not normal that the cam breaks across the lobe like that, he said that it was eather a install error, or casting flaw. But he said if i brought it to him he would figure out whats up and eather give me a new one for free (if casting flaw) or cut me a smoking deal of $50ish if it was my fault. Eather way, im getting a new cam and throwing it in next weekend.
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Re: BROKEN CAM!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~1/17/10~~~~~~~~Ratcityrex's B18A1 BROKEN CAM
« Reply #246 on: January 18, 2010, 12:43:22 PM »

Fuck man I feel your pain. That is bullshit!
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Re: BROKEN CAM!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~1/17/10~~~~~~~~Ratcityrex's B18A1 BROKEN CAM
« Reply #247 on: January 18, 2010, 02:52:09 PM »

eh the installed wrong thing is probably mostly bullshit.

those cam cap bolts will break way before you would damage the cam
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Re: BROKEN CAM!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~1/17/10~~~~~~~~Ratcityrex's B18A1 BROKEN CAM
« Reply #248 on: January 18, 2010, 03:00:11 PM »

Well i just got off the phone with scott at delta and he said that its not normal that the cam breaks across the lobe like that, he said that it was eather a install error, or casting flaw. But he said if i brought it to him he would figure out whats up and eather give me a new one for free (if casting flaw) or cut me a smoking deal of $50ish if it was my fault. Eather way, im getting a new cam and throwing it in next weekend.

Looks like he is going to work with you. good deal.

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Re: BROKEN CAM!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~1/17/10~~~~~~~~Ratcityrex's B18A1 BROKEN CAM
« Reply #249 on: January 18, 2010, 03:32:24 PM »

Well i just got off the phone with scott at delta and he said that its not normal that the cam breaks across the lobe like that, he said that it was eather a install error, or casting flaw. But he said if i brought it to him he would figure out whats up and eather give me a new one for free (if casting flaw) or cut me a smoking deal of $50ish if it was my fault. Eather way, im getting a new cam and throwing it in next weekend.

Good shit man. Hopefully casting flaw. haha.
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Re: BROKEN CAM!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~1/17/10~~~~~~~~Ratcityrex's B18A1 BROKEN CAM
« Reply #250 on: January 18, 2010, 05:06:08 PM »

I just find it hard to belive that some little ass 4mm bolts, and some alum cam caps could bust a steel cam in half across the lobe like that. Im leaving the houe right now to head to delta. Ill update you guys here in a few.
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Re: BROKEN CAM!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~1/17/10~~~~~~~~Ratcityrex's B18A1 BROKEN CAM
« Reply #251 on: January 18, 2010, 05:18:59 PM »

I just find it hard to belive that some little ass 4mm bolts, and some alum cam caps could bust a steel cam in half across the lobe like that. Im leaving the houe right now to head to delta. Ill update you guys here in a few.
You know if you busted it or not. If you did it right like you said, then it can't be your fault and you should know that. I've tried snugging cam caps down too quickly and had the cam bind up. Nothing broke, but it pretty damn obvious I'd gotten in a hurry and messed up.

Hope they get you fixed up.
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Re: BROKEN CAM!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~1/17/10~~~~~~~~Ratcityrex's B18A1 BROKEN CAM
« Reply #252 on: January 18, 2010, 05:23:34 PM »

aj dropped it and didnt tell anyone but me!


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sucks dude.  oh well.  youre getting a new one
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Re: BROKEN CAM!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~1/17/10~~~~~~~~Ratcityrex's B18A1 BROKEN CAM
« Reply #253 on: January 18, 2010, 08:03:54 PM »

the guys at delta are as cool as they come. Fucking A+ to those guys. They said that there was something fucked with the cam core and asked me if I had 20 min while they ground me a new one. So we loled about bizzymoto and his 702whpowwwrz with piss injection. Some free stickes, and an invite to come down and hang out with them when they open there new shop in march. They just picked up a whole other shops worth of stuff, and are going to start doing head porting. Cant say enugh good things about those guys.
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Re: BROKEN CAM!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~1/17/10~~~~~~~~Ratcityrex's B18A1 BROKEN CAM
« Reply #254 on: January 18, 2010, 09:08:06 PM »

glad it worked out for you, where is the new shop going to be?
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Re: BROKEN CAM!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~1/17/10~~~~~~~~Ratcityrex's B18A1 BROKEN CAM
« Reply #255 on: January 18, 2010, 09:08:52 PM »

well good shit, glad they hooked you up.

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Re: BROKEN CAM!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~1/17/10~~~~~~~~Ratcityrex's B18A1 BROKEN CAM
« Reply #256 on: January 18, 2010, 09:41:56 PM »

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Re: BROKEN CAM!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~1/17/10~~~~~~~~Ratcityrex's B18A1 BROKEN CAM
« Reply #257 on: January 18, 2010, 11:17:16 PM »

i wonder if that was you talking in the backround when i called a few hours ago to pay for some cams.
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Re: BROKEN CAM!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~1/17/10~~~~~~~~Ratcityrex's B18A1 BROKEN CAM
« Reply #258 on: January 18, 2010, 11:24:55 PM »

thanks goodness
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Re: BROKEN CAM!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~1/17/10~~~~~~~~Ratcityrex's B18A1 BROKEN CAM
« Reply #259 on: January 18, 2010, 11:43:02 PM »

got any pictures of the ends of the breaks?  that will clue you into what happened better than anything
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Re: BROKEN CAM!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~1/17/10~~~~~~~~Ratcityrex's B18A1 BROKEN CAM
« Reply #260 on: January 19, 2010, 12:01:53 AM »

88dx, they are moving just down the street to a shop thats about 3000sq ft larger and twice as tall,

corey, it probably was me, i was there bullshitting for like 45min, got there around 2 and left around 3.

only, i still have one half of the cam, the owner looked at me and said "you want half of this for a paper weight?" so i kept the longer one, and he put the shorter one on the wall with the rest of the fucked up shit. i will take a pic of it tonight, or tomorrow.

On a good note, i put the new intake cam in and it didnt snap in half =) so now i just need to fire it up and keep it above 2500 for 15-20 min to break in the new cam.
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nice let me know how they do n/a status was thinkin of puttin them in the wifes hatch
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Re: BROKEN CAM!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~1/17/10~~~~~~~~Ratcityrex's B18A1 BROKEN CAM
« Reply #264 on: January 19, 2010, 12:57:40 PM »

the guys at delta are as cool as they come. Fucking A+ to those guys. They said that there was something fucked with the cam core and asked me if I had 20 min while they ground me a new one. So we loled about bizzymoto and his 702whpowwwrz with piss injection. Some free stickes, and an invite to come down and hang out with them when they open there new shop in march. They just picked up a whole other shops worth of stuff, and are going to start doing head porting. Cant say enugh good things about those guys.

 ;D I love hearing stories like this one.  Nothing quite like a good customer experience.  There are those who talk about standing behind their stuff and those who actually do...  Some folks should take notes...
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ull enjoy the cams power wise but hate the shitty MPG  :?:
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ull enjoy the cams power wise but hate the shitty MPG  :?:

You'll get the same mpg if you tune the car, you neanderthal.  A lumpy cam generates less vacuum which will cause it to run rich if you're using a stock fuel map.

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nice let me know how they do n/a status was thinkin of puttin them in the wifes hatch

will do  :)

Compared to a stock cam you'll fucking love it.

I sure hope so.

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Tell them your setup, and your Buddie was just in the other day with the busted honda cam. Talk to Scott, or I think the owners name was Dan... But Im not sure. I mentioned about your largness while I was there. We also Talked about his ex-wifes new boyfriend/husband. LOL Hes on this forum and thats all I have to say about that.

ull enjoy the cams power wise but hate the shitty MPG  :?:

Its ok,  O0 (Dave) is gona tune it, and im only pulling something like 15-20mpg in town right now because I only dive it like 400-500 miles a month. And its always warming up.....lol
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Wow that speaks worlds for their customer service! Good deal.  :noel:
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