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Author Topic: **The Shuttle Lives** 412.80 HP, 4th gear Kenny Rogers roaster!!  (Read 9658 times)

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Re: 100 miles on the bitch. **The Shuttle Lives**
« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2009, 07:44:10 PM »

The tunertoys fitting is supplying my turbo (restricted slightly in anticipation of this issue), the vtec head, and the mechanical gauge. With all of that going through a 1/8 port, it's just not enough flow.

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Re: 100 miles on the bitch. **The Shuttle Lives**
« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2009, 07:55:30 PM »

How much oil pressure is teh gauge showing? Ive ran the turbo and vtec head off a TT block fitting without any issues, Hopefully you dont have a oil pressure issure with the motor  :?:
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Re: 100 miles on the bitch. **The Shuttle Lives**
« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2009, 08:01:22 PM »

How much oil pressure is teh gauge showing? Ive ran the turbo and vtec head off a TT block fitting without any issues, Hopefully you dont have a oil pressure issure with the motor  :?:
What his gauge says is probably useless. Probably shows great pressure. But if he Tee'd a gauge right at the turbo and right at the vtec solenoid he'd find it's lower from the flow losses associated with each. What size lines are you using?
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Re: 100 miles on the bitch. **The Shuttle Lives**
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2009, 08:07:59 PM »

Car looks sick. We just need some dyno pics.
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Re: 100 miles on the bitch. **The Shuttle Lives**
« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2009, 09:04:42 PM »

I probably should have though about this more when I did it, but it's a TT block fitting going to a -3 firewall line, to a tee with one to the turbo, to another tee  :noel: going to -6 to the head, and an 8ft. -3 to the gauge. Damn, that sounded dumber than I thought. haha.

These are pics of the first dyno we were on. Since that day another shop called me to paint their new 5,000sq ft shop, so needless to say the tuning was worked in with the new shop. Both of them have great reps with E85, but the guy in these pictures is booked out "forever" as it were.



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Re: 100 miles on the bitch. **The Shuttle Lives**
« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2009, 09:11:40 PM »

Always wanted a hatch, sick of the fuckin coupe. But nonetheless sick ass pictures. :noel:
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Re: 100 miles on the bitch. **The Shuttle Lives**
« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2009, 09:18:56 PM »

So you're trying to feed all that shit through a -3AN line.... Gonna wanna fix that.
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Re: 100 miles on the bitch. **The Shuttle Lives**
« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2009, 09:26:26 PM »

I cant believe this thing is actually moving under its own power. I thought it was a joke for all these years.
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Re: 100 miles on the bitch. **The Shuttle Lives**
« Reply #38 on: August 24, 2009, 09:32:03 PM »

good job, looks clean and 3 years ahead of schedule...nice
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Re: 100 miles on the bitch. **The Shuttle Lives**
« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2009, 10:36:36 PM »

damn son.  who would have thought you were gonna beat the penismobile aka firecrotch.  (see what i did there?)
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Re: 100 miles on the bitch. **The Shuttle Lives**
« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2009, 10:40:11 PM »

(see what i did there?)

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Re: **The Shuttle Lives** 412.80 HP, 4th gear Kenny Rogers roaster!!
« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2009, 07:57:02 PM »

  Just got done on the dyno. 412.80HP at 21psi. It's a wound up little bitch for sure. I think I might need some more breathers cause a cloud of smoke appears at every other stoplight. Haven't even washed it to take pictures, but an update, well ahead of 2017.  :noel:
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Re: **The Shuttle Lives** 412.80 HP, 4th gear Kenny Rogers roaster!!
« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2009, 08:01:43 PM »

Damn, what turbo? Doesn't sound very efficient.

Congrats on finally getting it running though.
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Re: **The Shuttle Lives** 412.80 HP, 4th gear Kenny Rogers roaster!!
« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2009, 08:50:06 PM »

videos????

car looks pimpin.
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Re: **The Shuttle Lives** 412.80 HP, 4th gear Kenny Rogers roaster!!
« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2009, 08:50:49 PM »

Shit, that's not bad at all 413hp. I would love to see these numbers in mine lol

Anyway, you don't want to blow your motor and put oil everywhere in that perfect clean engine bay :P
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Re: **The Shuttle Lives** 412.80 HP, 4th gear Kenny Rogers roaster!!
« Reply #45 on: August 25, 2009, 09:15:29 PM »

The whole top end of the motor is stock I believe. #'s are where they should be.
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Re: **The Shuttle Lives** 412.80 HP, 4th gear Kenny Rogers roaster!!
« Reply #46 on: August 25, 2009, 09:17:46 PM »

The whole top end of the motor is stock I believe. #'s are where they should be.
NO i read on HT that u have to make 500whp on 15psi

Enjoy driving the car 400whp is plenty of power on the street to have some fun  :yes:
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Re: **The Shuttle Lives** 412.80 HP, 4th gear Kenny Rogers roaster!!
« Reply #47 on: August 25, 2009, 09:27:22 PM »

hes still using that faggot stock gsr manifold. a simple switch to an aebs if one is to be found with a 70mm from chris would probably net over 30 WHP.
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Re: **The Shuttle Lives** 412.80 HP, 4th gear Kenny Rogers roaster!!
« Reply #48 on: August 25, 2009, 09:59:02 PM »

The aebs manifold is a nice piece ugly as shit but nice. Not sure if you can find one these days though I was on a waiting list for almost 5 months and still never got them in.



From what the rep told me was they were running 50 of them and that was all they planned on that was a couple months ago though.
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Re: **The Shuttle Lives** 412.80 HP, 4th gear Kenny Rogers roaster!!
« Reply #49 on: August 25, 2009, 10:01:08 PM »

Oh and you beat the deadline of 2017 congrats. My civic is collecting dust and the cage is getting rusty.
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Re: **The Shuttle Lives** 412.80 HP, 4th gear Kenny Rogers roaster!!
« Reply #50 on: August 25, 2009, 10:06:19 PM »

rod and piston LS block
stock rebuilt gsr head with type r valve springs.

  The intake manifold was definately something I heard about all day, even without the butterflies. The edlebrock IM was suggested next, as well as type r cams. First I'll be adding more breathing, and trying to source an excellent oem distributor. We put 2 honda distributors on it, both having breakup up top. The third distributor was the least breakup, and it was an aftermarket job, which is said to be junk.

  I've still got alot of details to take care of with everything from the engine to the interior, stereo, etc..., but once I get it all done I'll post vids and shit.
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Re: **The Shuttle Lives** 412.80 HP, 4th gear Kenny Rogers roaster!!
« Reply #51 on: August 25, 2009, 10:10:51 PM »

At your power level you want the Vickie-X.

Is the dude with the AWD dyno named Shane? 

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Re: **The Shuttle Lives** 412.80 HP, 4th gear Kenny Rogers roaster!!
« Reply #52 on: August 25, 2009, 10:12:53 PM »

MSD coil+new OEM ignitor and you'll be good to go. What spark plugs and what gap.
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Re: **The Shuttle Lives** 412.80 HP, 4th gear Kenny Rogers roaster!!
« Reply #53 on: August 25, 2009, 10:16:10 PM »

Ignitor is most likely your issue with top end break up.
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Re: **The Shuttle Lives** 412.80 HP, 4th gear Kenny Rogers roaster!!
« Reply #54 on: August 25, 2009, 10:28:56 PM »



Is the dude with the AWD dyno named Shane? 

No, the guy pictured with the awd dyno is Jordan. I've heard of the Shane guy before, I believe with DB Performance, and to my memory an old affiliate of Brent Rau. I think he's located 45 minutes or so from me, and never been there.

MSD coil+new OEM ignitor and you'll be good to go. What spark plugs and what gap.

We swapped an oem coil in from another dist. and it still broke up. The plugs I believe are the NGK 7's, and I believe we ended with 20 for the gap, but he may have gone slightly smaller, saying that 16 is the lowest he'd ever done with E85.

Ignitor is most likely your issue with top end break up.

It was strange. Sometimes it would break up, and others it wouldn't. Our final outcome I'd say isn't 100%, but very close, and something I'll need to fix for long term.
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Re: **The Shuttle Lives** 412.80 HP, 4th gear Kenny Rogers roaster!!
« Reply #55 on: August 25, 2009, 10:30:45 PM »



Is the dude with the AWD dyno named Shane? 

No, the guy pictured with the awd dyno is Jordan. I've heard of the Shane guy before, I believe with DB Performance, and to my memory an old affiliate of Brent Rau. I think he's located 45 minutes or so from me, and never been there.

Okies.  Shane called me out of the blue last summer.  Fucking greatest guy in the midwest, IMO, he hates Subarus as much as I do.

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Re: **The Shuttle Lives** 412.80 HP, 4th gear Kenny Rogers roaster!!
« Reply #56 on: August 25, 2009, 10:40:25 PM »

If you have a spare dist laying around if my memory is correct a sohc ignitor should work in the dohc vtec dist I know that applies to obdo 100 percent



I have tuned 2 cars on dyno's that did the same thing your talking about. We switched ignitors got some brand new vatozone ones and they did the job. Break up was gone.
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Re: **The Shuttle Lives** 412.80 HP, 4th gear Kenny Rogers roaster!!
« Reply #57 on: August 25, 2009, 11:14:54 PM »

FUck those vatozone ones. I've bought 3 and they all either don't work, or go out with the quickness.

Invest in an OEM unit from Honda.
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Re: **The Shuttle Lives** 412.80 HP, 4th gear Kenny Rogers roaster!!
« Reply #58 on: August 25, 2009, 11:16:09 PM »

If you have a spare dist laying around if my memory is correct a sohc ignitor should work in the dohc vtec dist I know that applies to obdo 100 percent



I have tuned 2 cars on dyno's that did the same thing your talking about. We switched ignitors got some brand new vatozone ones and they did the job. Break up was gone.
d16y distributors and gsr's have the exact same internals. Ive swapped them before trouble shooting.
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Re: **The Shuttle Lives** 412.80 HP, 4th gear Kenny Rogers roaster!!
« Reply #59 on: August 25, 2009, 11:17:20 PM »

FUck those vatozone ones. I've bought 3 and they all either don't work, or go out with the quickness.

Invest in an OEM unit from Honda.

at around $350 a pop he may as well go with an msd pro billet
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