Topic: Shit (Read 56356 times)

patsmx5 · « **Reply #90 on:** December 27, 2009, 11:35:06 PM »

Got a new pilot bearing and TOB installed, then set the shortblock in, got it bolted in. Then added some accesories and stuff and then used the lift to lower the head/intake manifold/turbo manifold/turbo onto the shortblock all in one shot. Got it about 1/2" above the shortblock then put 4 head bolts in to get everything alligned, then lowered it down. Got it torqued down now to 60 ft*lbs, the top end of spec. Tomorrow I'll finish it up hopefully.

crxvtec91 · « **Reply #91 on:** December 27, 2009, 11:55:53 PM »

Wheres the pic's?

patsmx5 · « **Reply #92 on:** December 28, 2009, 12:35:20 AM »

I forgot to take a pic with the head on, but here's a few pics up to getting ready to put the head on.

And the head's already on now, turbo oil drain hooked up. Just gotta hook up the downpipe bolts and wastegate bolts, which are a pain in the ass. Then all the hard stuff is done. Then it's just simple shit. Also gotta redo the crank position sensor bracket I made as the new trigger wheel is in a different location, but that shouldn't be too hard to modify.

New head gasket is 1mm thick vs. stock of .8mm. With the head work, 9:1 pistons, and 1mm headgasket, new compression ratio is 8.4:1

onlyflash944 · « **Reply #93 on:** December 28, 2009, 12:43:26 AM »

just outta curiousity, why wasn't the head installed with the engine out of the car?

patsmx5 · « **Reply #94 on:** December 28, 2009, 12:48:56 AM »

If you install the head on the motor, then you can't get to the upper bellhousing bolts because there's a thermostat thing sticking off the back of the head. And you have to have the intake manifold off to install the starter, and installing the intake manifold with the head on in the car is a bitch cause you can't get to the lower nuts that hold it on. Turbo manifold can be done with everything in the car, but still easier with it out. In my case, I just pulled 10 head bolts and removed the manifold/turbo/head assembly, and then put it back on. So I never took any of that other stuff apart.

patsmx5 · « **Reply #95 on:** December 29, 2009, 12:35:45 AM »

Went to lowes and in the hardware section, found some 22 gauge steel wire used for hanging pictures and whatnot.

Got everything put together, anitfreeze is in with cap off. Needs oil and then hook up battery and crank it up. Waiting on permatex stuff to setup overnight before I add oil and run it. Hopefully it cranks tomorrow.

onlyflash944 · « **Reply #96 on:** December 29, 2009, 12:50:54 AM »

pardon me for not knowing, but what engine management?

patsmx5 · « **Reply #97 on:** December 29, 2009, 12:56:14 AM »

Running megasquirt 2 extra and a ford EDIS4 ignition system for engine management. Not the best, but it works and keeps it running safe.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #98 on:** December 29, 2009, 03:48:47 AM »

THe DIY cam holder trick has been officially stolen, and if anyone asks me, I invented it.

crttaz · « **Reply #99 on:** December 29, 2009, 06:16:06 AM »

Quote from: Joseph Davis on December 29, 2009, 03:48:47 AM

THe DIY cam holder trick has been officially stolen, and if anyone asks me, I invented it.

who cares, I fucking love it!!!!!

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #100 on:** December 29, 2009, 12:01:16 PM »

Quote from: crttaz on December 29, 2009, 06:16:06 AM

Quote from: Joseph Davis on December 29, 2009, 03:48:47 AM
THe DIY cam holder trick has been officially stolen, and if anyone asks me, I invented it.

who cares, I fucking love it!!!!!

I invented it to impress you, Chuck.

patsmx5 · « **Reply #101 on:** December 29, 2009, 01:29:37 PM »

IT RUNS!!!!!!!!

92CXyD · « **Reply #102 on:** December 29, 2009, 01:36:38 PM »

Any better than before?

patsmx5 · « **Reply #103 on:** December 29, 2009, 02:03:10 PM »

Haven't driven it yet. I told the machinist wrong and the trigger wheel was pressed on about 15* off. So I'm about to go take it to him to get it fixed. Other than that, so far so good.

patsmx5 · « **Reply #104 on:** December 29, 2009, 11:08:44 PM »

Seems to run great. Got the trigger wheel pressed on in the right spot and that's working great, turning as true as can be. Put about 2 hrs worth of driving on it and so far it's working fine, no obvious leaks. Ran it up to 7K a couple times and man that cam swap mad a nice difference on top end power.

EDIT:

Built engine cost

Trigger wheel setup machining         0
Bolts for trigger wheel             4
Supertech Synthetic oil & filter         20
Coolant & distilled water            15
Forged rods shipped CAT             266
Spare engine w/81k miles            88
Engine assembly lube             4
Complete gasket set shipped second hand new   40
RTV                     5
Brake parts cleaner               30
99' exhaust cam shipped            40
Valve cover gasket               21
Fuel hose for WG and BOV            6
Total:    499

crxvtec91 · « **Reply #105 on:** December 30, 2009, 07:32:55 PM »

Nice work, well done!

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #106 on:** December 30, 2009, 07:39:43 PM »

bump for updates

patsmx5 · « **Reply #107 on:** December 30, 2009, 08:01:50 PM »

Something broke

Fired it up this morning and it's running on 3 cylinders and smoking like crazy. Pretty pissed.

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #108 on:** December 30, 2009, 08:04:40 PM »

Quote from: patsmx5 on December 30, 2009, 08:01:50 PM

Something broke Fired it up this morning and it's running on 3 cylinders and smoking like crazy. Pretty pissed.

You had the piss injection setup on too high a percentage. It hydro'd a piston and broke it.

onlyflash944 · « **Reply #109 on:** December 30, 2009, 08:13:36 PM »

Quote from: Ntrain2k on December 30, 2009, 08:04:40 PM

Quote from: patsmx5 on December 30, 2009, 08:01:50 PM
Something broke Fired it up this morning and it's running on 3 cylinders and smoking like crazy. Pretty pissed.

You had the piss injection setup on too high a percentage. It hydro'd a piston and broke it.

i've never seen a piston break as a result from hydrolocking an engine

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #110 on:** December 30, 2009, 09:03:55 PM »

Quote from: onlyflash944 on December 30, 2009, 08:13:36 PM

Quote from: Ntrain2k on December 30, 2009, 08:04:40 PM
Quote from: patsmx5 on December 30, 2009, 08:01:50 PM
Something broke Fired it up this morning and it's running on 3 cylinders and smoking like crazy. Pretty pissed.

You had the piss injection setup on too high a percentage. It hydro'd a piston and broke it.

i've never seen a piston break as a result from hydrolocking an engine

Joke>you

And I have seen it happen. A lot of RPM's were involved, a deep puddle, and a wrist pin that came through the crown of it.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #111 on:** December 30, 2009, 09:54:05 PM »

Quote from: onlyflash944 on December 30, 2009, 08:13:36 PM

Quote from: Ntrain2k on December 30, 2009, 08:04:40 PM
Quote from: patsmx5 on December 30, 2009, 08:01:50 PM
Something broke Fired it up this morning and it's running on 3 cylinders and smoking like crazy. Pretty pissed.

You had the piss injection setup on too high a percentage. It hydro'd a piston and broke it.

i've never seen a piston break as a result from hydrolocking an engine

That's apparently what broke JFK78's 609 whp Vitara piston.

onlyflash944 · « **Reply #112 on:** December 30, 2009, 11:24:56 PM »

Quote from: Joseph Davis on December 30, 2009, 09:54:05 PM

Quote from: onlyflash944 on December 30, 2009, 08:13:36 PM
Quote from: Ntrain2k on December 30, 2009, 08:04:40 PM
Quote from: patsmx5 on December 30, 2009, 08:01:50 PM
Something broke Fired it up this morning and it's running on 3 cylinders and smoking like crazy. Pretty pissed.

You had the piss injection setup on too high a percentage. It hydro'd a piston and broke it.

i've never seen a piston break as a result from hydrolocking an engine

That's apparently what broke JFK78's 609 whp Vitara piston.

the piston that 'dissapeared'? what made it hydrolock?

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #113 on:** December 30, 2009, 11:30:37 PM »

Quote from: onlyflash944 on December 30, 2009, 11:24:56 PM

Quote from: Joseph Davis on December 30, 2009, 09:54:05 PM
Quote from: onlyflash944 on December 30, 2009, 08:13:36 PM
Quote from: Ntrain2k on December 30, 2009, 08:04:40 PM
Quote from: patsmx5 on December 30, 2009, 08:01:50 PM
Something broke Fired it up this morning and it's running on 3 cylinders and smoking like crazy. Pretty pissed.

You had the piss injection setup on too high a percentage. It hydro'd a piston and broke it.

i've never seen a piston break as a result from hydrolocking an engine

That's apparently what broke JFK78's 609 whp Vitara piston.

the piston that 'dissapeared'? what made it hydrolock?

Cracked sleeve or something. Maybe excessive piss injection - I think owners of 600whp Vitara motors are cursed with weak bladders whenever the fun pedal is fully depressed.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #114 on:** December 30, 2009, 11:31:59 PM »

Or that's what somebody told me when I speculated the piston just fell apart. i haven't looked for one of JFK's threads, nor asked him, so for all i know I'm just making these blah blah blah noises with my keyboard.

crxvtec91 · « **Reply #115 on:** December 30, 2009, 11:51:01 PM »

Quote from: Joseph Davis on December 30, 2009, 09:54:05 PM

Quote from: onlyflash944 on December 30, 2009, 08:13:36 PM
Quote from: Ntrain2k on December 30, 2009, 08:04:40 PM
Quote from: patsmx5 on December 30, 2009, 08:01:50 PM
Something broke Fired it up this morning and it's running on 3 cylinders and smoking like crazy. Pretty pissed.

You had the piss injection setup on too high a percentage. It hydro'd a piston and broke it.

i've never seen a piston break as a result from hydrolocking an engine

That's apparently what broke JFK78's 609 whp Vitara piston.

Sir Grand Wizard, I think in your old age your memory is going on you

, it was a spun rod bearing that took out the motor; after it spun the rod bearing the piston just wanted to kiss the head.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #116 on:** December 30, 2009, 11:52:50 PM »

Fuck.

You know, I was looking at a Subaru motor that did that today. Actually, the piston and head are fine, but the quench surfaces were tapping just enough to remove the carbon off of both. Crazy to look at, and crazier since it was running yesterday and sounded like a valvetrain noise.

bgdriver · « **Reply #117 on:** December 31, 2009, 12:24:01 AM »

Quote from: patsmx5 on December 29, 2009, 12:35:45 AM

Fuck yeah! You are my hero!

HiProfile · « **Reply #118 on:** January 01, 2010, 04:40:39 PM »

Quote from: patsmx5 on December 30, 2009, 08:01:50 PM

Something broke Fired it up this morning and it's running on 3 cylinders and smoking like crazy. Pretty pissed.

What color is the smoke? After seeing your rhmt spring compressor, I'm wondering if you slightly cracked one.

Guess it's back to the battery of test procedures for you... Hopefully it's just something stupid like a broken plug. $:-\$

patsmx5 · « **Reply #119 on:** January 01, 2010, 09:13:06 PM »

Quote from: HiProfile on January 01, 2010, 04:40:39 PM

Quote from: patsmx5 on December 30, 2009, 08:01:50 PM
Something broke Fired it up this morning and it's running on 3 cylinders and smoking like crazy. Pretty pissed.

What color is the smoke? After seeing your rhmt spring compressor, I'm wondering if you slightly cracked one.

Guess it's back to the battery of test procedures for you... Hopefully it's just something stupid like a broken plug. $:-\$

It's blue smoke. I actually installed two of the pistons using the rhmt spring compressor and then removed them just to see if I broke anything. And I didn't the two times I checked. I'm gonna do a comp. test tonight or tomorrow. Gotta do an oil pan gasket on a 98' sentra now.

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