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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2009, 01:20:18 PM »

The purpose of the tstat is to get the engine up to operating temps quickly by keeping the coolant from circulating through the radiator.  That is it's only purpose.
Incorrect. The thermostat:

Regulates coolant flow to control temperature
Places a restriction on the cooling system such that:
-coolant between the pump and the thermostat is at a higher pressure, rasing the boiling point
- said pressure differnece causes coolant to flow evenly in some applications.
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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2009, 01:30:48 PM »

obviously he is pulling hot air from the engine bay through the radiator, sealing the top, and sides of radiator off from the engine with a homemade cooling plate, and a fan shroud will fix the problem, I did this with my eg.
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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2009, 01:44:39 PM »

So have you figured out that that monstrosity of a FMIC isnt neccessary yet????  


Anyways. I vote shroud and water wetter.  FAL fan, and youre good

NO antifreeze if you can help it  water dissapates heat alot better.

We've already been through this.. it wont cool enough. He has gotta get the oil temps down. B series are a whole different machine. FAL fan is overpriced garbage IMHO

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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2009, 01:49:45 PM »

Ya Id think a good shroud with a 1600 cfm fan would ne equally as effective as a fal setup right????

Ultimately he needs a bigger radiator as well?




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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2009, 01:58:07 PM »

ultimatly he's gotta get the oil temps down.. We had 2 (two) 1600CFM fans and it still wouldn't keep it cool *enough* cruzing around 220 after 2 hrs of driving at 70

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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #35 on: October 29, 2009, 02:12:22 PM »

I was having this kinda issue with my shit. So I just pulled the 2 wires on the back of the block that connect to the coolant fan sensor, and made a jumper and now when the key is on, so is the fan. I then put a 170* tstat in, and it brought the temps down quite a bit in traffic. I would say 20* to 25* in traffic. But when Im cruising im sitting right at about 175*

I would make a shroud and try and get all that air that goes through your ic and try and redirect it through your rad. Shit get a cardboard box and some duct tape and make a mock up real quick and go cruise around with your fan hardwired on and the cardboard and I bet you that right there will solve your problems.  
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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #36 on: October 29, 2009, 02:13:35 PM »

This information generally for B series you say?  Have any experience with an oil cooler on a D?
Yes, but generally I dont see the 275* plus oil temps in a D series.

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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #37 on: October 29, 2009, 02:18:54 PM »

I was having this kinda issue with my shit. So I just pulled the 2 wires on the back of the block that connect to the coolant fan sensor, and made a jumper and now when the key is on, so is the fan. I then put a 170* tstat in, and it brought the temps down quite a bit in traffic. I would say 20* to 25* in traffic. But when Im cruising im sitting right at about 175*


My fan is jumped in this manner - the cold ass Tstat... I dont dig that as a solution.... (1600cfm fan no shroud CHINKY 1/2 length and wateer and wetter only)  and on anything more than 80 degree days its not happy.

Its an H... Not a B, but it still gets hot, Ive seen Joshes dads cars oil temps when the motor strated getting warm... Oil temps were really high... he had 2 fans a fluidine and wetter and it still got hot (220 plus)....  NOT beating on it....  Ross has always insisted oil temp is the issue. Makes sense.  Id like to put a cooler on my pile not just for the cooler, but the added capacity... Which would aid too.  I CANT fit a full length radiator
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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2009, 02:25:06 PM »

hood scoop  :mexi:

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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #39 on: October 29, 2009, 02:37:11 PM »

an OIL COOLER adapter. not a presure adapter or anything else. it has 2 -8 or -10 lines. One inlet and one outlet. nothing else. GE makes them and so does gReddy.

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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #40 on: October 29, 2009, 02:50:04 PM »

Why has no one mentioned shimming up the back of the hood yet?...  or did I miss that one?
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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #41 on: October 29, 2009, 02:51:15 PM »

because its fucking gay
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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #42 on: October 29, 2009, 02:53:06 PM »

because its fucking gay
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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #43 on: October 29, 2009, 02:56:34 PM »

Why has no one mentioned shimming up the back of the hood yet?...  or did I miss that one?

Levi doesn't shim shit he cuts shit with a angle grinder, have you not seen his front bumper.  ???
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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #44 on: October 29, 2009, 03:20:04 PM »

because its fucking free, easy, and effective...
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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #45 on: October 29, 2009, 03:22:33 PM »

an OIL COOLER adapter. not a presure adapter or anything else. it has 2 -8 or -10 lines. One inlet and one outlet. nothing else. GE makes them and so does gReddy.

As does Mocal, but theirs generally have a thermostat built in.

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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #46 on: October 29, 2009, 03:29:04 PM »

Ya there is a bunch but i'm not here to hold anyones hand.

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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #47 on: October 29, 2009, 03:47:38 PM »

im not saying an oil cooler does nothing, but i would put money on an oil cooler NOT fixing this problem. fixing that faggot jdm angle on the rad so i t actually gets airflow will help alot.

we were having problems with a car running hot and taking out the tstat helped it a ton.
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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #48 on: October 29, 2009, 03:50:17 PM »

Josh, how big of an oil cooler were you running?
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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #49 on: October 29, 2009, 03:54:21 PM »

And I'd be willing to bet the opposite.. Look at the designs of alot of outlaw trucks and trophy trucks. they have the worst mounted radiators with almost zero flow and still make them work. with huge oil coolers and fans on everything. There is alot to be looked at. I'm not saying that cowling the radiator wont help but I will put money that his oil temps are reaching close to 300 degrees before his temp moves much over 200. Our SCCA car had these overheating problems severely until we put a huge oil cooler on it. even with a full size integra fluidyne radiator (110+ degree's outside). But spend your money where you think its due. Personally oil temps as high as everyone here turbo'd are running i'd put an oil cooler on before I even put an aftermarket radiator in.

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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #50 on: October 29, 2009, 03:55:19 PM »

Josh, how big of an oil cooler were you running?

20x8x1.5"

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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #51 on: October 29, 2009, 03:57:55 PM »

Josh, how big of an oil cooler were you running?

20x8x1.5"


HOLLY FUCK!! lol

Thats like the size of a big rig tranny cooler....lol
You ran that big of one on your pop's civic?
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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #52 on: October 29, 2009, 03:59:24 PM »

no, that was on the race car. You dont need anything bigger then 12x4x1 with a set of small fans.

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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #53 on: October 29, 2009, 03:59:57 PM »

Josh, how big of an oil cooler were you running?

20x8x1.5"

That fucker is only 1.5 inches thick?

Odd.

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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #54 on: October 29, 2009, 04:01:06 PM »

ODD? fuck it was hard enough to find one that was 1 inch thick. 1.5 is unheard of.

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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #55 on: October 29, 2009, 04:04:50 PM »

no, that was on the race car. You dont need anything bigger then 12x4x1 with a set of small fans.

Cool, I think i might run the one ive got sitting on my wall for the past 3 years then. I picked it up at a wrecking yard and have never done anything with it. Fuck was brand new sitting in a box in the back of a old ass Oldsmobile. Its about that size too.
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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #56 on: October 29, 2009, 04:23:33 PM »

I had no thermostat in it. It took a long time to get hot and when it did get hot it never cooled down. so that is a small fix term.

i will look into the oil cooler idea aswell as shroud & gansta lean.

I already shimmed the hood
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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #57 on: October 29, 2009, 05:03:40 PM »

I had no thermostat in it. It took a long time to get hot and when it did get hot it never cooled down. so that is a small fix term.

i will look into the oil cooler idea aswell as shroud & gansta lean.

I already shimmed the hood

Thats identical to what happens. Put an oil temp gauge on it. ;-)

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Re: Cooling Issues
« Reply #58 on: October 29, 2009, 05:08:53 PM »

an oil cooler cools the oil that removes heat from the rotating assembly and valvetrain. The radiator/cooling system removes the bulk of the heat though. If it's overheating riding around town, it's not cause the oil is being overheated to the point that it's overloading the cooling system. I mean, yall seriously believe that?
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« Reply #59 on: October 29, 2009, 05:19:15 PM »

listen guys. I am OPEN TO IDEAS, why not try a bunch of shit.

I am NOT getting a different Intercooler so if you say it again keep your fucking tongue because your opinion is useless and you are a fucking retard.


I know the problem is decreased airflow THUS I am trying to get some ideas to get some air in there with the limited amount of space that I currently have.
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