Topic: T3 5 bolt -> V-band adapter, is there a cheap one?? (Read 16089 times)

Vagitarian · « **on:** December 07, 2009, 09:22:27 AM »

Im sick and tired of having to fuck with 5 bolts on my downpipe everytime, and when I removed the bolts a week ago to put the car back to n/a for the winter, 2 bolts broke.

I seen an adapter on atpturbo to convert 5 bolt to vband, but it was $150. Is there any that are MUCH cheaper, without welding to the cast iron. I already have a spare 5 bolt flange, so should I just simply buy a v-band kit and get it welded on or is there anything specially done by atp turbo or anything??

Like dis

Eville140 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 07, 2009, 11:46:26 AM »

Just buy a v-band set and weld to one side straight to the turbo. F an adapter.

turbob16hatch · « **Reply #2 on:** December 07, 2009, 11:53:28 AM »

if your interested send me a pm i can make that adaptor for WAY less then $150.

Teg2boo · « **Reply #3 on:** December 07, 2009, 11:59:16 AM »

You can try this: http://cgi.ebay.ca/5-BOLT-TO-2-5-V-BAND-CLAMP-DOWNPIPE-FLANGE-ADAPTER_W0QQitemZ270495520487QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3efaca16e7#ht_3246wt_960

Or this
http://cgi.ebay.ca/T3-5-Bolt-to-3-V-Band-Conversion-Adapter-for-INT-W-G_W0QQitemZ320457384982QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item4a9cbfa416#ht_2930wt_939

Still expensive tho...

ryan89crx · « **Reply #4 on:** December 07, 2009, 01:57:26 PM »

I just bought a v-band kit and welded it to my 5 bolt flange. Never had to take off the flange after that

snm95ls · « **Reply #5 on:** December 07, 2009, 02:00:59 PM »

ATP stuff is always expensive.

Vagitarian · « **Reply #6 on:** December 07, 2009, 06:04:46 PM »

I dont have my flange handy, but when you buy these 3" vband kits, can you weld the ring right to the flange, or is the hole much to big?? and youd need a reducer??

Vagitarian · « **Reply #7 on:** December 07, 2009, 06:08:04 PM »

I really like this one you linked, with the internal wastegate hole adapted into it. But do you need the hole blocked for running external wastegate instead of internal

http://cgi.ebay.ca/T3-5-Bolt-to-3-V-Band-Conversion-Adapter-for-INT-W-G_W0QQitemZ320457384982QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item4a9cbfa416#ht_2930wt_939

BUT, I will be running external wastegate. Do you need that hole blocked off for external wastegate??

ryan89crx · « **Reply #8 on:** December 07, 2009, 06:12:57 PM »

Quote from: Vagitarian on December 07, 2009, 06:08:04 PM

Do you need that hole blocked off for external wastegate??

Think about that for a little bit, seriously...

ApexSilver06MR · « **Reply #9 on:** December 07, 2009, 06:15:30 PM »

Quote from: ryan89crx on December 07, 2009, 06:12:57 PM

Quote from: Vagitarian on December 07, 2009, 06:08:04 PM
Do you need that hole blocked off for external wastegate??
Think about that for a little bit, seriously...

i would like to know this as well!!!!!

yeah right!!!!!

Vagitarian · « **Reply #10 on:** December 07, 2009, 09:04:54 PM »

ya im stupid bite me I didnt sleep lol

Anyways, would a 3" vband kit weld right up tot he t3 flange, or would I need a reducer?

jagojon3 · « **Reply #11 on:** December 07, 2009, 09:07:14 PM »

Get some grade 8 or 10 S.S. bolts and they shouldn't snap or rust.

ryan89crx · « **Reply #12 on:** December 07, 2009, 09:33:29 PM »

Quote from: Vagitarian on December 07, 2009, 09:04:54 PM

Anyways, would a 3" vband kit weld right up tot he t3 flange, or would I need a reducer?

t3 outlet is only 2.5" so a 2.5" vband with a 3"-2.5" reducer would work fine and give you better bolt clearance than simply welding a 3" v-band to the flange

Mine below. After the v-band it jumps up to 3"

Vagitarian · « **Reply #13 on:** December 07, 2009, 10:12:16 PM »

Ya I guess Ill just weld a 2.5" - 3" reducer onto my flange, then a 3" v-band on that

Is there a nice thick 2.5-3" reducer available for a fair price??

ryan89crx · « **Reply #14 on:** December 07, 2009, 10:49:11 PM »

http://www.mandrel-bends.com/catalog/

Vagitarian · « **Reply #15 on:** December 07, 2009, 11:52:40 PM »

^^ I just spent $218.70 on there lol, 3" ubends, v-bands and misc for the win!!!

Thanks

Vagitarian · « **Reply #16 on:** December 07, 2009, 11:58:47 PM »

I shoulda asked first, but this is the transition piece I wanted right, I can cut a bunch of the 2.5" off, weld that to my turbo flange, and then the 3 band piece to that???

Damn cheap prices on that site

HiProfile · « **Reply #17 on:** December 08, 2009, 04:05:28 AM »

I was just looking through ebay for v-bands and saw one, 5-bolt to 3" v-band external WG. VERY cheap, I was very surprised. It looked like it was a machined piece, I think $40 bucks. Now that I think of it, I asked the guy how tall it was.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220523352425

Guy said it sticks out ~4" to the middle of the v-band from the turbine housing's surface, but I think that's actually with both rings together. I was thinking about making one myself to compare a .78ar divided housing vs a .63ar housing if I get the turbo I want. If you weld on the inside, bend & grind the v-band ring enough, you can get a normal 3" v-band ring on a normal 5-bolt flange and use normal 10mm hex bolts.

btw I looked at practically everything ebay has on v-bands. The link below shows what I think is the best deal for a very nice v-band.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3-0-V-BAND-FLANGE-KIT-T3-T4-T04E-TURBO-DOWNPIPE-CLAMP_W0QQitemZ320441001510QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item4a9bc5a626

theidealone · « **Reply #18 on:** December 08, 2009, 01:14:29 PM »

This guy has one
http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?t=177375

ifly87 · « **Reply #19 on:** December 08, 2009, 03:20:46 PM »

I have been looking for this same exact thing, I have been talking with aaron wier about making one.

Vagitarian · « **Reply #20 on:** December 08, 2009, 03:52:09 PM »

Well about $60 and you can buy one premade !!!

onlyflash944 · « **Reply #21 on:** December 08, 2009, 08:22:21 PM »

Quote from: ryan89crx on December 07, 2009, 09:33:29 PM

Quote from: Vagitarian on December 07, 2009, 09:04:54 PM
Anyways, would a 3" vband kit weld right up tot he t3 flange, or would I need a reducer?
t3 outlet is only 2.5" so a 2.5" vband with a 3"-2.5" reducer would work fine and give you better bolt clearance than simply welding a 3" v-band to the flange

Mine below. After the v-band it jumps up to 3"

is that the red hi temp silicone instead of a gasket inbetween the turbo outlet and the dp flange?

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #22 on:** December 08, 2009, 09:34:18 PM »

This is the one we make. Just a vband welded to a flange and ported on the inside to match up.

Vagitarian · « **Reply #23 on:** December 08, 2009, 09:35:10 PM »

And is it fairly in expensive???

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #24 on:** December 08, 2009, 09:39:05 PM »

No. We just charge people for the weld & grinding time. I think it's about $12 over the cost of the raw materials to do it.

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #25 on:** December 08, 2009, 09:42:28 PM »

Oh, and dimensions:

Ours is about 1.25" from the bottom of the flange to the top of the vband.

When you have pair of vbands clamped it's just under 2" from the bottom of the flange to the top of the pair.

snm95ls · « **Reply #26 on:** December 08, 2009, 09:56:14 PM »

Quote from: mandrel-bends on December 08, 2009, 09:42:28 PM

Oh, and dimensions:

Ours is about 1.25" from the bottom of the flange to the top of the vband.

When you have pair of vbands clamped it's just under 2" from the bottom of the flange to the top of the pair.

Hmmm. Very nice.

Vagitarian · « **Reply #27 on:** December 09, 2009, 01:51:54 AM »

Thats a 2.5" though I just noticed, I need 3"

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #28 on:** December 09, 2009, 01:19:15 PM »

The 3" pieces we use a cone transition in the middle. They end up being about 3/4" of an inch taller. The fab time is a trim to length, 2 welds and grind/port.

Vagitarian · « **Reply #29 on:** December 09, 2009, 09:34:44 PM »

Price on the 3"?? Couldnt find it on your site

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