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DIY HOW-TO: Chip a 1G DSM EPROM ECU with pics
« on: December 13, 2009, 04:55:36 PM »

Using DS-MAP free software (http://forums.ds-map.net/index.php)and an Ostrich and a logging cable, you can convert your DSM over to speed density.

The following method also works on 1G/2G DSM EPROM ECU's for DSM Link installs.

Note: Use the following guide at your own risk, I'm not responsible if you screw something up.



Get yourself to this stage, the stock chip that you need to remove is in the top right corner of the board pictured. Before you go any further, clean the bottom of the board around the chip pins with acetone/mineral spirits/mild solvent and a toothbrush, Mitsu ECU's have a coating on them that prevents you from getting a clean solder joint so make sure it's good and clean.



Use a Dremel or rotary tool to cut the pins off the chip. You'll want a cutoff wheel, some safety glasses and a steady hand to do it. Go slow, you don't need to apply much pressure to cut through the thin pins, and don't worry about cutting into the eprom. When you're done carefully pry the chip loose, it may still be stuck to the board with residue. You'll want to clean the board off with compressed air as well.

A lot of people will probably tell you this is a butcher method of removing an eprom and that you're better to desolder pins from the underside of the board and remove the chip intact. I've never had luck doing that and I've been using this method for a while now with no accidental damage. You're much less likely to rip out a trace (which often ruins a board) with this method.



Aftermath of Dremel attack.



So now you have 28 pins stuck in the board.



Take your soldering iron and heat the underside of the board and the pin at the same time. Best to do this with your good hand, as you'll need your other hand free at the same time for...



Use a small set of needle nose pliers to grip the pin from the other side while you use your soldering iron to melt the solder. Wiggle slowly to make sure it's loose, then pull it out. If you feel resistance, stop, and figure out why before you try and use brute force. All these pins should practically fall out once the solder is heated up.



Use copper Desoldering braid, or a desoldering gun/bulb and remove the access solder from all the holes. I often find it's easier to go over and fill every hole back up with fresh solder before doing this. Desoldering something that's half full is harder.



Put your 28 pin socket in the spot where the old chip was. Solder each pin, don't use too much solder or it will pool and make contact with other pins on the underside of the socket where you can't see it.

Put your ECU back together, plug your Ostrich into your socket and you're ready to go!
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Re: DIY HOW-TO: Chip a 1G DSM EPROM ECU with pics
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2009, 06:09:26 PM »

ECU IS CHIPPABLE IF  you have a 28 pin right on dsm ecu's? i have one in my car i think but i'd like to buy up a 2nd.   
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Re: DIY HOW-TO: Chip a 1G DSM EPROM ECU with pics
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2009, 09:21:51 PM »

Yeah, if it has a 28 pin eprom in it already then you're good to go. Not all of them do. I scored this one at the wreckers, havn't even checked my own car yet.
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Re: DIY HOW-TO: Chip a 1G DSM EPROM ECU with pics
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2009, 10:06:30 PM »

Yeah, if it has a 28 pin eprom in it already then you're good to go. Not all of them do. I scored this one at the wreckers, havn't even checked my own car yet.

You forgot to mention replacing the caps if it hasnt been done yet. 
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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2009, 10:22:47 PM »

Yeah, I haven't had to do it yet, and this ECU already has new caps in it from what I can tell.

Robb what are the symptoms of bad caps?
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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2009, 10:44:28 PM »

Yeah, I haven't had to do it yet, and this ECU already has new caps in it from what I can tell.

Robb what are the symptoms of bad caps?

On a dsm, fuel pump runs intermittently or not at all.  On csms, damn thing just wont start. 

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Re: DIY HOW-TO: Chip a 1G DSM EPROM ECU with pics
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2009, 11:47:34 PM »

neat stuffs
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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2009, 12:23:55 AM »

neat stuffs

Yeah, there are seriously maybe 10 people who really dug into the mitsu ecus and wrote code (dsmap guys are at least 2 of them) and there is alot of dsmtards who would rather pay for 'Link, an inferior product, than a $20 chipset and free grassroots software like DSmap/jackal/werewolf.  At this point I'd rather talk tech with a rotard than the fools building dsms these days, present company not included.

Good writeup Minor.  Build thread on your car?
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Re: DIY HOW-TO: Chip a 1G DSM EPROM ECU with pics
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2009, 12:42:23 AM »

someone needs to photoshop the chip growing legs and walking off the circuit  :)
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2009, 01:03:32 AM »

someone needs to photoshop the chip growing legs and walking off the circuit  :)

And if a chip had a crank, that would mean something.  ;)
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Re: DIY HOW-TO: Chip a 1G DSM EPROM ECU with pics
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2009, 01:08:04 AM »

its a DSM.... ;)
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Re: DIY HOW-TO: Chip a 1G DSM EPROM ECU with pics
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2009, 01:11:57 AM »

its a DSM.... ;)

That just means something attached to the motor is going to break, like the trans, harness, chassis, etc.  Not necessarily the motor itself.  Didnt you know?  The lord almighty designed the 4g63 right before he gave Smoky Yunick the head designs for the LS1. 
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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2009, 01:21:32 AM »

technically it is indirectly attached LOL
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Re: DIY HOW-TO: Chip a 1G DSM EPROM ECU with pics
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2009, 06:29:02 AM »

ahhh man that 4g63..... that motor wouldnt die. when i was young (18) and didnt know shit about cars, I had a a 1st gen eclipse and drove it up-hill 5-6 miles with the T-stat shut. It burned up all the coolant, burned all the oil, and made the most fucked up pig squeeling metal clanking noise i ever heard a car make.

I pulled over at a gas station. Bought 4 quarts of oil, 1gallon of coolant, filled it up, and let it cool down for 15 mins. and the car was fine after that.

It went on to last 2 more years of careless abuse.
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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2009, 10:57:52 AM »

neat stuffs

Yeah, there are seriously maybe 10 people who really dug into the mitsu ecus and wrote code (dsmap guys are at least 2 of them) and there is alot of dsmtards who would rather pay for 'Link, an inferior product, than a $20 chipset and free grassroots software like DSmap/jackal/werewolf.  At this point I'd rather talk tech with a rotard than the fools building dsms these days, present company not included.

Good writeup Minor.  Build thread on your car?

When I get around to building it, there will be a thread. For now you'll just get threads about fixing busted shit.
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« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2009, 11:50:19 AM »

We have to not only register, but make 5 posts before we can dl the software. >:(
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« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2009, 11:53:33 AM »

Yeah but it's free. Make 5 dumb posts or something.
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« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2009, 12:44:14 PM »

Seems like a good tuning software tho. Been reading all the fucking stickies. Still unsure of how exactly they log, or if you can burn a chip(what chip to use?)after you're done tuning with the ostrich.

Seems a lot like Crome in its early stages. Just hope it doesn't turn out like crome is now.
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« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2009, 12:49:46 PM »

Seems like a good tuning software tho. Been reading all the fucking stickies. Still unsure of how exactly they log, or if you can burn a chip(what chip to use?)after you're done tuning with the ostrich.

Seems a lot like Crome in its early stages. Just hope it doesn't turn out like crome is now.

Werewolf is gonna cost something like $30 or so, Jackal will always be free. 

The 5 posts thing is to ward off dsmtards who shouldnt touch a car.  Its their way of screening noobs. Post something semi-intelligent pls.

You can make your own logging cable, and use jackal's logging software or any of the other free dsm loggers.  You can burn a chip when your done, but most just leave the ostrich hooked up.
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Re: DIY HOW-TO: Chip a 1G DSM EPROM ECU with pics
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2009, 04:18:39 PM »

Nice write up.
If anybody needs a 1G eprom ecu I have 2 one that is socketed and 1 that is not.
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« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2009, 08:34:42 PM »

Seems like a good tuning software tho. Been reading all the fucking stickies. Still unsure of how exactly they log, or if you can burn a chip(what chip to use?)after you're done tuning with the ostrich.

Seems a lot like Crome in its early stages. Just hope it doesn't turn out like crome is now.

Werewolf is gonna cost something like $30 or so, Jackal will always be free. 

The 5 posts thing is to ward off dsmtards who shouldnt touch a car.  Its their way of screening noobs. Post something semi-intelligent pls.

You can make your own logging cable, and use jackal's logging software or any of the other free dsm loggers.  You can burn a chip when your done, but most just leave the ostrich hooked up.

I think werewolf is gonna be in the 100$ range, IIRC. Still worth it compared to DSMlink, which is a glorified AFC.

You log thru the ALDL OBD1 diagnostic port, you can get the cables off ebay for 25 bucks or make your own with a serial cable.

You log thru Jackal, and RTP with the Ostrich. If you want to burn a rom and put it on a chip, I'm pretty sure there's a bin save option, otherwise just read your Ostrich with your chip burner.
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Re: DIY HOW-TO: Chip a 1G DSM EPROM ECU with pics
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2009, 04:38:52 PM »

Is there no datalogging header you have to install like in obd1 honda ecus? just a 28pin socket and an ostrichs is it?
I've never messed with DSM stuff, seems like I need to try it out: nice post.

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« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2009, 04:42:25 PM »

Is there no datalogging header you have to install like in obd1 honda ecus? just a 28pin socket and an ostrichs is it?
I've never messed with DSM stuff, seems like I need to try it out: nice post.



Data logging cable plugs into the ALDL plug.  Logging from one com port while tuning from another.  A 2 usb laptop with windows xp will suffice.
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Re: DIY HOW-TO: Chip a 1G DSM EPROM ECU with pics
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2009, 04:51:33 PM »

Where is the other usb plugging into the ECU? , hondas have a hulog and an ostrich with this method I am only seeing where the ostrich plugs into the 28pin socket, or am I over looking something?


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« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2009, 05:11:19 PM »

A one usb laptop with a USB hub and windows xp will suffice.

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« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2009, 05:41:06 PM »

Where is the other usb plugging into the ECU? , hondas have a hulog and an ostrich with this method I am only seeing where the ostrich plugs into the 28pin socket, or am I over looking something?




The usb-to-ecu cable plugs into the aldl diag socket.
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« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2009, 06:16:20 PM »

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Re: DIY HOW-TO: Chip a 1G DSM EPROM ECU with pics
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2009, 02:57:35 AM »

is there software available online?
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« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2009, 03:01:18 AM »

is there software available online?

How about you re-read the thread and think about that.

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« Reply #29 on: December 23, 2009, 02:32:21 AM »

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