Topic: the sickest shit ive ever fabbed in my life. (Read 19456 times)

danz · « **Reply #30 on:** December 23, 2009, 03:07:50 PM »

Quote from: weirtech on December 22, 2009, 11:07:34 AM

looks awesome! i wanted to do a similar setup on a car i was sponsoring, but he wanted to keep the car streetable so i couldn't convince him to go with this style setup.

i'd run the wg under the oil pan along side the downpipe.

downpipe going out bumper.

recognize your flanges aaron?

Quote from: shogun on December 22, 2009, 04:05:26 PM

really nice fab , sorry for the newb question, but will it be braced somwhow to the block or somewhere or is it strong enough to hold the turbo as is?

if it cracks (i doubt it) ill make a heim mount where the AC bracket usually is. i dont think it will crack.

Quote from: Passenger on December 22, 2009, 05:20:21 PM

Nice work Danz, we gonna see it at the track this year?

hell ya. the question is, will i see YOU at the track this year??

Quote from: 88dx on December 22, 2009, 05:44:37 PM

Nice work dan hope to see another fast D at the track next year :yes:

hell ya man. gonna be at least two big D's next year. maybe even 3 if my buddy vinh can get his boost controller working. he made 277whp @ 13psi on a 60 trim t04e. should be wicked on 25-30psi.

Quote from: dvst8r on December 23, 2009, 12:20:43 AM

Quote from: Joseph Davis on December 22, 2009, 11:38:18 PM
Quote from: dvst8r on December 22, 2009, 05:18:15 PM
That manifold being made from sch40 is less likely to crack then the head it is attached to.

Schedule 40 still cracks.

Sch 40 mild steel does have a possibility of cracking, as does all metal, but far less then a typical SS manifold does. Not only that I would still bet that if it is welded well, the head would be more likely to crack then that mani. Mild steel is very malleable, pliable stuff.

i am very happy with the welds. the gaps were great almost everywhere, and 90% of the welds are flush with the material with excellent penetration. by far my finest welding, ever.

Quote from: Urban Indian on December 23, 2009, 03:27:19 AM

This

is a lie. This does not weigh 1770lbs

busted. i estimate it weighs about 15lb

Quote from: hatrack48 on December 23, 2009, 10:37:16 AM

Is the radiator gonna fit

yep, with a stock fan assembly. now go stick an aids needle in your pee hole.

HiProfile · « **Reply #31 on:** December 23, 2009, 07:15:13 PM »

I vote for fail, it has perfect pairing for a divided turbine and you opted out...wtf? Then you could have used a real turbo, hx35/40 hybrid.

Other than that it looks like a cool setup. Filter or v-stack?

danz · « **Reply #32 on:** December 23, 2009, 08:22:45 PM »

haha ya... i didnt think it was going to be paired properly... meh.

who wants 2 waste gates anyways.

ill let the owner decide filter or vstack. i think he wants a v-stack but that might just be for the track, and one of them mushroom filters for the street/drive to the track.

ryan89crx · « **Reply #33 on:** December 23, 2009, 09:50:10 PM »

Quote from: HiProfile on December 23, 2009, 07:15:13 PM

Then you could have used a real turbo, hx35/40 hybrid

You mean HE351CW

HiProfile · « **Reply #34 on:** December 24, 2009, 09:01:17 PM »

Not really, I mean hx35/hx40 hybrid. You can get an hx40 cheap and get a remachined hx35 turbine housing, or just a hx40 wheel/cover machined & rebalaned on your hx35 (cheaper than any GT-BB turbo). The he351cw is less common ($$) and doesn't come off a truck with a divided turbine housing. It also has that stupid 90* compressor outlet.

Quote from: danz on December 23, 2009, 08:22:45 PM

haha ya... i didnt think it was going to be paired properly... meh.

who wants 2 waste gates anyways.

ill let the owner decide filter or vstack. i think he wants a v-stack but that might just be for the track, and one of them mushroom filters for the street/drive to the track.

You cut the WG's inlet elbow/tube in half, weld together with a divider, and the pulses don't come back past the other side of the valve. Divided turbines don't have 2 wheels, and they still work fine.

I think you should try to make it the 1st 800hp pumpgas D16. NO METH either...

danz · « **Reply #35 on:** December 25, 2009, 07:43:57 PM »

sure why not 800whp.

correction for the win.

ryan89crx · « **Reply #36 on:** December 26, 2009, 02:00:57 PM »

Quote from: HiProfile on December 24, 2009, 09:01:17 PM

Not really, I mean hx35/hx40 hybrid. You can get an hx40 cheap and get a remachined hx35 turbine housing, or just a hx40 wheel/cover machined & rebalaned on your hx35 (cheaper than any GT-BB turbo). The he351cw is less common ($$) and doesn't come off a truck with a divided turbine housing. It also has that stupid 90* compressor outlet

True, but IMHO it's a better setup for sohc motors anyways. HY35 turbine(smaller than HX35) with an HX40 wheel.

danz · « **Reply #37 on:** December 26, 2009, 05:41:45 PM »

the more and more i read between the lines the more and more a large hot side seems like the ticket.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #38 on:** December 26, 2009, 06:33:38 PM »

At some point you have to make the turbine larger to support more (power) flow through the hot side, but when you get into the small engine + big turbo late spooling game it's usually best to keep the turbine and housing as small as possible.

If you ever watch the guys with the REALLY big hotsides, they are trailered drag cars that suck on the street. When they go to stage they make the other guy go first if they can, pre-stage with a linelock and antilag to spool up the turbo, and then bump the linelock to get fully staged and then immediately FTL before the light drops. That's a LOT to do if you don't learn your car. I know you have heart, danz, but think long and hard on whether you're ready to go from fast streetcar to full racecar.

arsenio · « **Reply #39 on:** December 26, 2009, 11:10:35 PM »

Quote from: Joseph Davis on December 26, 2009, 06:33:38 PM

At some point you have to make the turbine larger to support more (power) flow through the hot side, but when you get into the small engine + big turbo late spooling game it's usually best to keep the turbine and housing as small as possible.

If you ever watch the guys with the REALLY big hotsides, they are trailered drag cars that suck on the street. When they go to stage they make the other guy go first if they can, pre-stage with a linelock and antilag to spool up the turbo, and then bump the linelock to get fully staged and then immediately FTL before the light drops. That's a LOT to do if you don't learn your car. I know you have heart, danz, but think long and hard on whether you're ready to go from fast streetcar to full racecar.

you gay

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #40 on:** December 26, 2009, 11:27:33 PM »

And you picked up on it, big fish. PM me your number, I'll put you in my phonesex rotation with Spiker, DMC, Sewell, and Mista Bone.

sewell94 · « **Reply #41 on:** December 27, 2009, 02:22:45 AM »

Keep your shit a street car, i hate how my car drives on the street, Fuck i hate how it drives at the track. I wish i still had my little eg hatch with ac, ps, working sunroof, and would down the 1/4 @147mph. I fucked up , i ruined it to go faster, blah blah.

I am actually going to use my direct port kit to clean up my cars mannerisms.

danz · « **Reply #42 on:** December 27, 2009, 05:33:34 PM »

i have 3 civics, and i dont really need 3 street cars. 1 1991 si winter beater, 1 1990 cx (old 10 sec car) getting an NA D that will stomp B swaps all day, and the 1998 hatch drag car.

my 1998 hatch is going to be my drag car. my only concern will be avoiding pigs on the drive to the track. not really looking forward to insuring 2 cars. need to figure out a way to cheat the system....

interesting you mention direct port.

PhilStubbs · « **Reply #43 on:** December 27, 2009, 06:02:37 PM »

+1 on not having a drag car on the street. i have a 91 hatch that is being turned into a 100% track car and an eg coupe to have as a fun street car.

sewell94 · « **Reply #44 on:** December 27, 2009, 08:07:12 PM »

Quote from: danz on December 27, 2009, 05:33:34 PM

i have 3 civics, and i dont really need 3 street cars. 1 1991 si winter beater, 1 1990 cx (old 10 sec car) getting an NA D that will stomp B swaps all day, and the 1998 hatch drag car.

my 1998 hatch is going to be my drag car. my only concern will be avoiding pigs on the drive to the track. not really looking forward to insuring 2 cars. need to figure out a way to cheat the system....

interesting you mention direct port.

Boost+Spray=the shiznitz I'm really excited to see how the spool changes on my 372.

You playing with a direct port also?

PhilStubbs · « **Reply #45 on:** December 27, 2009, 08:20:12 PM »

i like to call it "Insta-Spool"

mrgreengenes · « **Reply #46 on:** December 28, 2009, 12:12:39 AM »

Quote from: danz on December 27, 2009, 05:33:34 PM

not really looking forward to insuring 2 cars. need to figure out a way to cheat the system....

"borrow" someones plates from down your street for the night, or "transfer" plates from your other civic...

also, the wastgate thru the hood has a badass 4th gear/long load time effect, where the hot exhaust gasses start to glow red for a couple of inches out of the tube. I have this done on my colt, and hitting the limiter makes flames... sufficient to roast a smokie.

Phil

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #47 on:** December 28, 2009, 12:35:26 AM »

Quote from: mrgreengenes on December 28, 2009, 12:12:39 AM

also, the wastgate thru the hood has a badass 4th gear/long load time effect, where the hot exhaust gasses start to glow red for a couple of inches out of the tube.

Sounds like a knock feedback loop. Not ideal.

widebody93 · « **Reply #48 on:** December 28, 2009, 03:15:04 AM »

I like this thread....EXCELENT

mrgreengenes · « **Reply #49 on:** December 28, 2009, 03:17:52 AM »

Quote from: Joseph Davis on December 28, 2009, 12:35:26 AM

Quote from: mrgreengenes on December 28, 2009, 12:12:39 AM
also, the wastgate thru the hood has a badass 4th gear/long load time effect, where the hot exhaust gasses start to glow red for a couple of inches out of the tube.

Sounds like a knock feedback loop. Not ideal.

logged with no knock. det can on the other hand, well... i'll catch it next time

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #50 on:** December 28, 2009, 11:04:34 AM »

I've zero experience with a super short hood exit DP, but I have stood ten feet away from a 3.5 foot length of 4" DP while taking 800 whp pulls and never saw anything of the sort. There are a number of things that could still be different between the setups that would cause that, and still be perfectly acceptable, but it made my ears prick up when you said it.

I've never been a fan of KS-based tuning, every so often it goes horribly wrong. I like them there as a safety measure *after* you get done with a proper tune.

90dx · « **Reply #51 on:** December 28, 2009, 12:03:19 PM »

Nice work nog that mani is serious business

mrgreengenes · « **Reply #52 on:** December 28, 2009, 12:52:48 PM »

Next season I suspect will bring about a new round of fast imports, i know a few people building up some pretty serious hatches, civics, festivas..

JD, i completely agree about the KS based tuning, i've had to redo some AEM cars' timing maps because the original tuner "just let the knock sensor take care of excess timing.." Yeah cool when i have to take about 10* out just to stop the rattle. As for my own stuff, at the time I was doing "diesel" based tuning, "more fuel 'till the ol' egt get too hot." Maybe there was a bit too much fuel/meth in the mixture. Haha!

Danz, this ED looks like Eli's car, minus the BBS wheels. Looking forward to watching these 2 cars side by each.

NICE WORK

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #53 on:** December 28, 2009, 01:01:11 PM »

That's my #1 problem with AEM factory certifications, talk about a crew of guys who boost comp and leave a car idling at 11:1 AFR without even turning on O2 feedback despite the in-car wideband being hardwired. AEM handles KS based off of the volume it generates, not the frequencies it's resonating at, which makes it a cripple device at best. Sure thing, there is a correlation between volume and knock, but it's well AFTER knock has set in on a lot of cars.

t57b18 · « **Reply #54 on:** January 01, 2010, 09:19:28 PM »

manifold looks great and moroe pics of the car ?

drivin96 · « **Reply #55 on:** January 12, 2010, 11:59:03 AM »

now how is a set up like this in shitty weather ? or is this only a nice day drag car? ..... what im askin is if water gets in does it pose a major prob or is i some how evaporated in the turbine before it get to the intake?

ratcityrex · « **Reply #56 on:** January 12, 2010, 01:21:22 PM »

Quote from: drivin96 on January 12, 2010, 11:59:03 AM

now how is a set up like this in shitty weather ? or is this only a nice day drag car? ..... what im askin is if water gets in does it pose a major prob or is i some how evaporated in the turbine before it get to the intake?

Its like water injection, its just called Water induction nigga!!

danz · « **Reply #57 on:** January 12, 2010, 07:18:51 PM »

Quote from: drivin96 on January 12, 2010, 11:59:03 AM

now how is a set up like this in shitty weather ? or is this only a nice day drag car? ..... what im askin is if water gets in does it pose a major prob or is i some how evaporated in the turbine before it get to the intake?

water induction.

i also heard OC injection works well. it does for my colon....

PhilStubbs · « **Reply #58 on:** January 12, 2010, 08:00:22 PM »

do you put the OC directly in your colon?

i like to let it travel through my digestive system before it gets to the colon.

danz · « **Reply #59 on:** January 12, 2010, 10:58:51 PM »

it just slides in so nicely.

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