Topic: 1991civicsi build thread (Read 120237 times)

1991civicsi · « **Reply #121 on:** May 13, 2010, 06:59:56 PM »

Anyone want to sell 1 Eagle D16 rod?

crxvtec91 · « **Reply #122 on:** May 13, 2010, 11:03:01 PM »

Joe you did some solid work right there

ratcityrex · « **Reply #123 on:** May 13, 2010, 11:21:49 PM »

WOW....lol

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #124 on:** May 14, 2010, 10:15:55 AM »

Which rod was it?

crxvtec91 · « **Reply #125 on:** May 14, 2010, 10:35:17 AM »

Quote from: Joseph Davis on May 14, 2010, 10:15:55 AM

Which rod was it?

I believe he said #4 when I spoke to him.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #126 on:** May 14, 2010, 10:48:38 AM »

Yeah, his oil pump was shitcanned and pressure was falling off at the far end of the motor.

1991civicsi · « **Reply #127 on:** May 14, 2010, 09:35:48 PM »

   The day at the track the car got really hot on the 5th pass and then temp went back to normal. After making another pass the car overheated and began to knock. The #2 piston/rod is where the damaged occurred.The last build I used an ebay oil pump which did a lot of damage to the cylinder head, specifically the cam and cam caps. I have currently been using an OEM Honda oil pump that I ported and shimmed.

   I really wanted to use the same pistons, but, b/c the wrist pin appears to be bent, and the corner of the crown/ringland look damaged, Im probably gonna put a set of Vitaras that have been thermal coated, and a new set of Eagles.

   When I was removing the ARP head studs, I noticed pieces of threads that were in the block. I assume that torquing the head over and over to 85ft lbs took its toll. Timesert and Helicoil make kits but are kind of costly. I have to ask the machine shop for the labor rate.

   I also removed the thermostat (had to be gutted actually), to help coolant flow jic the overheating was coolant related.

snm95ls · « **Reply #128 on:** May 14, 2010, 10:01:26 PM »

i haven't followed thsi one closely, so bare with my ignorance. If the block isn't sleeved, then having time Serts(far superior to Helicoils) would cost more than sourcing another block and having it machined.

I know it isn't cheap when we Time Sert Northstars.

Why in the hell were you torquing the head studs to 85 ft-lbs? D16 studs are only M10, and ARP only recommends 70 ft-lbs with 30 weight oil on the 220,000 psi rated hardware. The head studs are heat treated to 200,000 pis.

1991civicsi · « **Reply #129 on:** May 14, 2010, 10:15:35 PM »

Yeah, I admit I made them too tight. I thought more would cause less head lift but it was the head gasket becoming compressed during the heat cycles.
I have a spare block, but I'm trying to avoid notching the block and girdle for the Eagle rods. Lol

onlyflash944 · « **Reply #130 on:** May 15, 2010, 10:50:24 AM »

Quote from: 1991civicsi on May 14, 2010, 10:15:35 PM

Yeah, I admit I made them too tight. I thought more would cause less head lift but it was the head gasket becoming compressed during the heat cycles.
I have a spare block, but I'm trying to avoid notching the block and girdle for the Eagle rods. Lol

that takes like half an hour with a die grinder on nog setting. it doesn't weaken anything, why wouldn't you want to do it?

1991civicsi · « **Reply #131 on:** May 15, 2010, 07:58:54 PM »

Air Grinder, gotta pick one of those up from Harbor Freight. Last time I used a drill with a cutting bit. Took me a couple of days.

Dr. D-Series · « **Reply #132 on:** May 24, 2010, 12:10:04 PM »

In my experience anything under 75 ft lbs for head torque on a high boost D is trouble.

I used to daily drive my car at 20 psi and it would blow the HG like its going out of style until I started to torque to 85-90.

Never had a problem again. Even on 30 psi.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #133 on:** May 24, 2010, 12:16:06 PM »

Quote from: Dr. D-Series on May 24, 2010, 12:10:04 PM

In my experience anything under 75 ft lbs for head torque on a high boost D is trouble.

I used to daily drive my car at 20 psi and it would blow the HG like its going out of style until I started to torque to 85-90.

Never had a problem again. Even on 30 psi.

That's a pretty broad statement, and if head stud torque were your concern you'd know a little bit more about it and be very specific which 85-90 ft/lbs you're talking about, because at the end of the day that very much isn't indicative of the clamping force in the system.

1991civicsi · « **Reply #134 on:** May 24, 2010, 02:18:16 PM »

I'm going to find out if I can o ring my stock block.

snm95ls · « **Reply #135 on:** May 24, 2010, 10:54:59 PM »

Quote from: Dr. D-Series on May 24, 2010, 12:10:04 PM

In my experience anything under 75 ft lbs for head torque on a high boost D is trouble.

I used to daily drive my car at 20 psi and it would blow the HG like its going out of style until I started to torque to 85-90.

Never had a problem again. Even on 30 psi.

With what kind of lubricant on the threads?

This is exactly how internet myths start.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #136 on:** May 25, 2010, 05:02:59 AM »

Exactly.

Next thing you know, Honda rods will have weak rod bolts because some riceboys forgot to tighten them.

Chunky · « **Reply #137 on:** May 25, 2010, 02:22:53 PM »

damn this is a good built! hope u get it running again! i want to do someting similar but around 200-250whp range.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #138 on:** May 25, 2010, 02:30:26 PM »

Quote from: Chunky on May 25, 2010, 02:22:53 PM

damn this is a good built! hope u get it running again! i want to do someting similar but around 200-250whp range.

Xiao, this forum doesn't like n00bs very much. Post some nudes of that slut you took to the Fergi concert, and maybe we'll like you.

CSaddict · « **Reply #139 on:** May 25, 2010, 05:18:29 PM »

Quote from: Chunky on May 25, 2010, 02:22:53 PM

damn this is a good built! hope u get it running again! i want to do someting similar but around 200-250whp range.

So a stock Z6 will do.

onlyflash944 · « **Reply #140 on:** May 25, 2010, 07:41:17 PM »

Quote from: CSaddict on May 25, 2010, 05:18:29 PM

Quote from: Chunky on May 25, 2010, 02:22:53 PM
damn this is a good built! hope u get it running again! i want to do someting similar but around 200-250whp range.

So a stock Z6 will do.

with a good tune

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #141 on:** May 25, 2010, 08:06:32 PM »

Quote from: onlyflash944 on May 25, 2010, 07:41:17 PM

Quote from: CSaddict on May 25, 2010, 05:18:29 PM
Quote from: Chunky on May 25, 2010, 02:22:53 PM
damn this is a good built! hope u get it running again! i want to do someting similar but around 200-250whp range.

So a stock Z6 will do.

with a good tune

Or the BBKA basemap and some ability to read plugs.

Dr. D-Series · « **Reply #142 on:** May 26, 2010, 07:47:38 PM »

Listen im no expert. Never claimed to be.

I know I set my fucked up craftsman torque wrench to 90 and go for it. Havent blown a HG since. If it has stayed intact for some other reason all I can hope for is the same gift.

Happy JD ? Jerk

1991civicsi · « **Reply #143 on:** May 26, 2010, 08:58:24 PM »

Quit micro analyzing my thread you turd burglars.

I ordered :
a new Eagle rod,
1 SRP piston,
4 new piston rings,
a set of ARP pressure plate, and flywheel bolts,
ACL bearings,
OEM oil pump, strainer, head gasket, oil pan gasket, and a couple of oil filters.

I had a crank polished that I picked up from Ebola last year.

I was given a quote of $20 to coat the piston top with thermal coating, but I may just have him do my turbo housing, and exhaust manifold while he's at it.

Ill post pics up as the toys arrive.

Oh yeah, I spoke to Dennis from B&L Machine shop and he schooled me on o-ringing my block. I have decided to keep it stock and I will get retuned on my new 750cc injectors.
I hope to make it back to the track this year.

onlyflash944 · « **Reply #144 on:** May 26, 2010, 10:39:54 PM »

do work.

plenty of time left

crxvtec91 · « **Reply #145 on:** May 27, 2010, 06:35:10 PM »

How much to coat the housing?

chris · « **Reply #146 on:** May 27, 2010, 06:41:36 PM »

Nice to see you sticking with it.

Dr. D-Series · « **Reply #147 on:** May 27, 2010, 07:03:12 PM »

Joe dont play.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #148 on:** May 27, 2010, 07:40:16 PM »

Quote from: Dr. D-Series on May 26, 2010, 07:47:38 PM

Listen im no expert. Never claimed to be.

I know I set my fucked up craftsman torque wrench to 90 and go for it.

Any lube on the threads? What sort?

1991civicsi · « **Reply #149 on:** May 27, 2010, 09:45:46 PM »

Quote from: crxvtec91 on May 27, 2010, 06:35:10 PM

How much to coat the housing?

I was given a quote of $20 to coat the piston top. Ill ask him on Saturday the cost to do the turbo housing and manifold.

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